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4 minutes ago, Killer Bunny said:

Of course. Welcome to the real world.

During the 2019 elections a friend told me we'd be worse off under Corbyn due to tax hikes.  I argued that the state is so broke/in-debt that it wouldnt even matter who's in charge, it would broadly result in the same actions (increased tax, more intervention).

Hello 2020!

 

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9 minutes ago, blackhole said:

Don't know about you guys, but you could literally replace "Boris" with "Corbyn" right now, and not tell the difference...

There's no difference. They call the Uniparty.

And it will end in tears as it always does. Socialism and command/control does not work,

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Just now, Warlord said:

There's no difference. They call the Uniparty.

And it will end in tears as it always does. Socialism and command/control does not work,

Absolutely agreed.  Time to hedge outside of FIAT and debt based goods.  Thanks for the tips btw 😉 

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1 minute ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Exactly, that is why despite traditionally being a Liberal leaning Tory and Soft Capitalist myself, I absolutely hate and detest Boris.

Basically he is Corbyn but with the Mail on his side. 

And the Telegraph as @northernsoul reports.. They hang on his every word desperate for a juicy exclusive. It makes me sick.

 

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9 minutes ago, nothernsoul said:

To be honest the telegraph are worse than the mail in their cheerleading of Johnson, especially as they are meant to be a serious broadsheet. 

Anyone with strongly held free market economic beliefs, or even belief in fiscal responsibility, is going to be very disappointed. But this was always coming, with or without covid. It was  why Boris was voted in, why Sunak was made chancellor and the treasury filled with stooges before this crisis started. Most if the right wing press are already supporting this, as are the right wing think tanks in public. 

Yes, the Telegraph is even more disturbing. 

It has strange art of using delusional headline.

 

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44 minutes ago, Killer Bunny said:

You’re behind the times. Last year they appointed the Mail on Sunday editor to Daily Mail. He’s the most Leftie Remainer on Fleet St.

Centrists are Remainers. Lefties are Leavers.

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24 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Exactly, that is why despite traditionally being a Liberal leaning Tory and Soft Capitalist myself, I absolutely hate and detest Boris.

Basically he is Corbyn but with the Mail on his side. 

What did you make of this near 6 month furlough scheme at a cost 8-10 billion/month? I've never seen such amounts of money being wasted all because they couldn't stomach mass unemployment at the time so they kicked the can down he road. it will eventually catch up with them!

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23 minutes ago, blackhole said:

During the 2019 elections a friend told me we'd be worse off under Corbyn due to tax hikes.  I argued that the state is so broke/in-debt that it wouldnt even matter who's in charge, it would broadly result in the same actions (increased tax, more intervention).

Hello 2020!

 

Correct!

Except it's not the State that's broke (currently 100% debt/GDP) but the private sector (currently ~200% debt/GDP).

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There is a crucial difference between Johnson and what Corbyn would have done. Corbyn is an ideological socialist and Johnson has no principles at all. They might have printed, borrowed and spent the same amount of money, but corbyn would have also used the opportunity to alter the balance of power within society. Public sector contracts removed from private hands, demanding concessions from private companies in return for cash(shares to employees), bringing back the power of unions etc. The establishment know this too well after the twin scares of Brexit and the election in 2017. It is precisely BECAUSE johnson is an unprincipled opportunist, who will do whatever it takes to keep the public onside, and not upset existing interests, that he is the man of the moment. The right wing press know this too and will mute ideological criticism of his policies. In a similar way, German industrialist in the 1930s might not have been ideological Nazis, but viewed them as preferable  to communism. Better having the state tell you what to make in your factory, but still owning it and taking good profits, than total confiscation by the state. 

For the sake of democracy and the economy too, I would like some political opposition to print and spend, but it wont happen.  The only possibility would be from within the conservative party itself, but it isnt there. 

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8 minutes ago, zugzwang said:

Correct!

Except it's not the State that's broke (currently 100% debt/GDP) but the private sector (currently ~200% debt/GDP).

Indeed.  Now, just need to hope Comrade Boris doesn't come along and turn the private sectors into forever Zombies.

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That’s EXACTLY what he and his Trump, Macron, Merkel, Lagarde mates are doing.

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At least with corbyn there would have been opposition to turning sterling into toilet paper: the conservative party, the right wing press, his own MPs, business groups, the Lib dems if in a coalition. Johnson has carte blanche. I can hardly see the labour party or the guardian kicking up a fuss about excessive government spending. Or Balfour Beatty moaning about billion pound contracts to build unnecessary infrastructure. 

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47 minutes ago, Warlord said:

What did you make of this near 6 month furlough scheme at a cost 8-10 billion/month? I've never seen such amounts of money being wasted all because they couldn't stomach mass unemployment at the time so they kicked the can down he road. it will eventually catch up with them!

I agree. It will actually cause a structural problem for the economy. Loads of zombie firms just hanging on to support extend and pretend debts. 

I personally think GBP will be toast along with the Dollar. I am currently holding very diversified investments as I think Europe, Asia and Africa will be out of this faster than the Nations of High Obesity (NoHO) - > US, UK, Mexico, Canada

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate

Interestingly the only real stand out modern nation is Japan. Less than 5% obesity!!! Most of the less obese places are just poor. 

The other exceptions at the obese end are very hot places (where people don't walk) and Pacific Islands where it is considered attractive. 

 

 

Edited by Mikhail Liebenstein

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6 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

I personally think GBP will be toast along with the Dollar. I am currently holding very diversified investments as I think Europe, Asia and Africa will be out of this faster than the Nations of High Obesity (NoHO). 

During the pandemic / lockdown orders I kept my near daily routines of running, with certain set routes.  Different times of day depending on my schedule.

I was expecting more different faces getting involved, especially since many didnt have their dreaded commute anymore.

Nope.  Very few additions.

However, Thursday evenings started to become a no go period.  Those NoHOs were out in force shouting and clapping, shouting to their neighbours.

If they really cared, they'd take some action - such as getting off their backsides for 30mins a day. 

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10 minutes ago, blackhole said:

During the pandemic / lockdown orders I kept my near daily routines of running, with certain set routes.  Different times of day depending on my schedule.

I was expecting more different faces getting involved, especially since many didnt have their dreaded commute anymore.

Nope.  Very few additions.

However, Thursday evenings started to become a no go period.  Those NoHOs were out in force shouting and clapping, shouting to their neighbours.

If they really cared, they'd take some action - such as getting off their backsides for 30mins a day. 

Yes, I'm just having a soak having knocked out 30 hard minutes on my rowing machine. Managed to keep this up along with weight training and running throughout lockdown. 

Say No to being a NoHO!!! 

Before all this, there was almost a movement to be overly kind to fat people, but I am through with that. 

Though I suspect we'll soon have 'Fat Lives Matter'  or some other thing. 

 

Edited by Mikhail Liebenstein

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10 minutes ago, longgone said:

i put on 20lbs 😒

Get walking. It is cheap, fun and easy as a starting exercise. 

I've always had a slight tendency to gain weight/muscle easily (mainly when doing weights and not enough CV) - the easiest way to fight it is to cut out bad food and just get some minimum level of cardiovascular exercise.  I definitely go beyond that now. 

Edited by Mikhail Liebenstein

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8 minutes ago, longgone said:

i put on 20lbs 😒

 

2 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Get walking. It is cheap, fun and easy as a starting exercise. 

I've always had a tendency to gain weight/muscle easily - the easiest way to fight it is to cut out bad food and just get some minimum level of cardiovascular exercise. 

Try looking at the mobile fit apps, as they allow you to set realistic targets and keep a track of matters.  Many are free.

Also keep an eye on your sleep routine.  Stuffing your face and tiredness are often linked strongly.

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1. It's easier to print government press releases as stories, because tory central office writes them for you. So you can't really blame the daily mail if everyone's  taken Sunday off so they print adverts as stories instead. Hardly anyone will notice the difference anyway. 

2. If boris doesn't keep people fed, they will revolt. 

3. If boris hadn't shut down the economy, half a million ( old) tory voters would have died in 6 months flat. 

So what should he have done? And what should he do now?

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3 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Get walking. It is cheap, fun and easy as a starting exercise. 

I've always had a tendency to gain weight/muscle easily - the easiest way to fight it is to cut out bad food and just get some minimum level of cardiovascular exercise. 

yep fast walking is great for fat loss, up until lock down i was down 96lbs overall. strangely from measuring i`m no bigger with 20lbs on. 

i have a garage with treadmill multi gym loose weights the lot,  think i went on the treadmill twice over the lock down months. 😔

3 stone to lose now  14 is where i need to be really. 

6 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

I've only seen still photos. How many did he manage? 

no idea probably 1 LOL 

i could do 40 in a row pre lockdown not bad considering i could not do one a few years back. 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Before all this, there was almost a movement to be overly kind to fat people, but I am through with that. 

Though I suspect we'll soon have 'Fat Lives Matter'  or some other thing. 

I think they call it "BBW".  

Now that work from home is becoming a thing (if not 100% WFH model), I wonder what it will take for others to get engaged?  What incentives could be provided?  It cannot be good for the economy as a whole for a large (30%+) section of society to be in the obesity bracket as COVID has just demonstrated.

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31 minutes ago, 24gray24 said:

1. It's easier to print government press releases as stories, because tory central office writes them for you. So you can't really blame the daily mail if everyone's  taken Sunday off so they print adverts as stories instead. Hardly anyone will notice the difference anyway. 

2. If boris doesn't keep people fed, they will revolt. 

3. If boris hadn't shut down the economy, half a million ( old) tory voters would have died in 6 months flat. 

So what should he have done? And what should he do now?

All he did was kick the can.The structural problems are still there... 

Edited by Warlord

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