Warlord Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Uh Oh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 Another poll... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 The Cummings effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 "Oh... Jeremy Corbyn. Oh... Jeremy Corbyn." Lost the election but won the battle of ideas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone59 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 They'll be back up again, even if it means getting rid of Johnson. There's a very long way to go, anyone who thinks this is a precursor to the next election result is either wishfully thinking (if they like Labour) or bonkers. It's easy to "vote" against the party in power when there's not a real election going on. Labour has literally nothing to offer right now other than one vaguely impressive bloke who has barely been tested yet. I actually hope Labour turns into something viable from the present sh1tshow and, if they deserve to, wins. Not going to wait up just in case though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Quote the present sh1tshow Is the current Tory party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone59 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Just now, Social Justice League said: Is the current Tory party. Agreed. Choice of two sh1tshows, which is nothing new, sadly. Unless you know something about Labour which I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Bluestone59 said: Agreed. Choice of two sh1tshows, which is nothing new, sadly. Unless you know something about Labour which I don't. Have never said that Labour is a better choice at the moment. All I do is call out thick feckw1ts who stick up for Boris and Cummings. A right pair of ugly retards who should never have been anywhere near 'the seat of power'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 We are so screwed. *shakes head * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbeard Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Warlord said: Uh Oh.... Frankly opinion polls 4 years ahead of the next election are for information only. Interesting to judge the current mood, but not really indicative of what happens in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, scottbeard said: Frankly opinion polls 4 years ahead of the next election are for information only. Interesting to judge the current mood, but not really indicative of what happens in 2024. Brexit will have collapsed the Red Wall constituencies’ economies and people will be eating grass in Burnley by then. Meanwhile Londoners and Southern Tories will have made out like bandits. The damage done to the north since November will take 10-15 years to recover. Edited June 7, 2020 by Mikhail Liebenstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btl_hater Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said: Brexit will have collapsed the Red Wall constituencies’ economies and people will be eating grass in Burnley by then. Meanwhile Londoners and Southern Tories will have made out like bandits. The damage done to the north since November will take 10-15 years to recover. A lot of people are going to have to learn that being thick and ignorant has consequences (except if you live in the South East, I guess..). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Roady Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Nothing to do with Cummings. Two words: HONG KONG Now better get BREXIT done Boris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, btl_hater said: A lot of people are going to have to learn that being thick and ignorant has consequences (except if you live in the South East, I guess..). Indeed, it’s all down to financialisation in London. A lot of the Hedge Funds and prop trading banks have done well out of this, and now have money to spend. Money on IT, for plumbers etc, but you need to be within 40 miles of London to really benefit. Edited June 7, 2020 by Mikhail Liebenstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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byron78 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I'm amazed we're still leading tbh! Imagine if the last decade had been on Labour's watch. They got elected promising to eradicate the debt and then proceeded to sharply work toward tripling it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurCopperCrutch Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 That’s what happens when you decide to literally kill off your support base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryrot Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said: Brexit will have collapsed the Red Wall constituencies’ economies and people will be eating grass in Burnley by then. Meanwhile Londoners and Southern Tories will have made out like bandits. The damage done to the north since November will take 10-15 years to recover. Can we keep these silly comments to the Brexit What Happens next thread ? Dont let then infect the rest of hpc? (please?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 hours ago, dryrot said: Can we keep these silly comments to the Brexit What Happens next thread ? Dont let then infect the rest of hpc? (please?) It is relevant though. Government policy decimating the north is the point, particularly when it impacts polling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simhadri Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Labour has still at least 10years to have a decent chance to win GE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryrot Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said: It is relevant though. Government policy decimating the north is the point, particularly when it impacts polling. OK, understood. (I just didnt want it to descend into the dreaded other thread ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simhadri Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Mr Stammer is no match for Boris. We will see couple more Labour leaders before Blair 2.0 emerges from Corbyn's backside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said: Indeed, it’s all down to financialisation in London. A lot of the Hedge Funds and prop trading banks have done well out of this, and now have money to spend. Money on IT, for plumbers etc, but you need to be within 40 miles of London to really benefit. So they can replace those xp machines and finally get those leaks fixed. Thank god from profiteering from death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyboy1973 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 hours ago, byron78 said: Imagine if the last decade had been on Labour's watch. You really think the last ten years would have been even worse under Labour? The Tory government since Brown (of whom I'm no fan) has got every single thing they have done catastrophically wrong. The worst decade of governance in this country certainly in my lifetime. Everything from Austerity to the Brexit referendum, through to the current Covid shambles, and no sign of it getting better or anyone more competent emerging (with the possible exception of Sunak). 1 hour ago, Simhadri said: Mr Stammer is no match for Boris. We will see couple more Labour leaders before Blair 2.0 emerges from Corbyn's backside. Have you watched any PMQs since Keir became Labour leader? Boris is finally getting shown up for what he is; a lazy, incompentent pseudo intellectual waste of space. I don't think he'll make it to the next election but I do think that Keir will. Labout would have won either of the last two elections easily with him at the helm. None of that is to say I am a Labour party cheerleader but surely even the most blinkered of Tory voters here can see that the quality of our government (and indeed opposition) has been in the toilet for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron78 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, mattyboy1973 said: You really think the last ten years would have been even worse under Labour? The Tory government since Brown (of whom I'm no fan) has got every single thing they have done catastrophically wrong. The worst decade of governance in this country certainly in my lifetime. Everything from Austerity to the Brexit referendum, through to the current Covid shambles, and no sign of it getting better or anyone more competent emerging (with the possible exception of Sunak). I do not. I was merely pointing out how easy it'd be to spin it negatively if it had been a Labour government! I'm astonished given how awful it's been that they still have a poll lead. I would struggle with 10 positive things they've achieved (seems reasonable - one a year). Edited June 7, 2020 by byron78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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