POLL: Did Dominic Cummings Break The Lockdown Rules & Is He An Unelected Bureaucrat?

[MonsieurCopperCrutch]

There’s an interesting dynamic at play with regards to Dominic Cummings recent behaviour and a hard core group of Brexit supporters that I believe should be further examined and discussed. So this poll is asking for your opinion on his actions in light of your stance over Brexit. 

Edited May 26, 2020 by MonsieurCopperCrutch

[Killer Bunny]

I didn't see the response IDGAF.

It has NOTHING to do with whether an HPC or not.

Edited May 26, 2020 by Killer Bunny

[sammersmith]

23 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

There’s an interesting dynamic at play with regards to Dominic Cummings recent behaviour and a hard core group of Brexit supporters that I believe should be further examined and discussed

Not really that interesting though is it?

He's my prediction: remainers will think he should go and brexiteers will think he should stay. Big deal. No new insights there.

It's a polarising issue. These incidents only amplify the division and provide something to reignite the same argument. 

I also predict that if Gina Miller did the same then remainers would still treat her like the Messiah. 

Edited May 26, 2020 by sammersmith

[MonsieurCopperCrutch]

2 minutes ago, sammersmith said:

Not really that interesting though is it?

He's my prediction: remainers will think he should go and brexiteers will think he should stay. Big deal. No new insights there.

I also predict that if Gina Miller did the same then remainers would still treat her like the Messiah. 

It's a polarising issue. These incidents only amplify the division and provide something to reignite the same argument. 

You shouldn’t project your own standards into others. If Gina did the same as Cummings I’d be just as outraged. 

[solentmuppet]

1 minute ago, sammersmith said:

Not really that interesting though is it?

He's my prediction: remainers will think he should go and brexiteers will think he should stay. Big deal. No new insights there.

I also predict that if Gina Miller did the same then remainers would still treat her like the Messiah. 

It's a polarising issue. These incidents only amplify the division and provide something to reignite the same argument. 

Re the Gina Miller sentence... you think that? I would say more likely the reaction would be incandescent rage at the betrayal. I  know I was with the Scottish CMO and the science chap oowozit, Ferguson I think.

[sammersmith]

1 minute ago, solentmuppet said:

Re the Gina Miller sentence... you think that? I would say more likely the reaction would be incandescent rage at the betrayal

From remainers? I don't think so. There would be some reason they could justify like maybe she couldn't get an Ocado delivery slot. 

The Scottish CMO deserved that. It was her advice dished out to the public and she broke her own rules. Ditto with Ferguson, only he did it to get some lockdown fun. These were lockdown advocates and preachers. Far as i know Cummings never brought into the idea of lockdown and his reasons were, on the face of it, more legitimate than second home visiting or married woman bonking. 

[Killer Bunny]

4 minutes ago, solentmuppet said:

Re the Gina Miller sentence... you think that? I would say more likely the reaction would be incandescent rage at the betrayal.

Then you're blind and deaf.  She and others like her can do no wrong for Remainers/Socialists.

[MonsieurCopperCrutch]

8 minutes ago, Killer Bunny said:

Then you're blind and deaf.  She and others like her can do no wrong for Remainers/Socialists.

That is complete not true. An entirely fabricated statement. 

[LetsBuild]

I struggled with the unelected bureaucrat question. He is unelected, but to me he’s like an anti bureaucrat - more of a maverick giving the establishment a (good in my view) shakeup. So I voted no to that.

[sammersmith]

30 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

If Gina did the same as Cummings I’d be just as outraged

Would you really? If you honestly believe you would then ok fair enough

[MonsieurCopperCrutch]

21 minutes ago, sammersmith said:

Would you really? If you honestly believe you would then ok fair enough

Yes I would. I particularly dislike liars and rule breakers so anyone thinking and acting for themselves above the law of others. Which is probably why I disliked the way the EU referendum was run. 

[MonsieurCopperCrutch]

31 minutes ago, LetsBuild said:

I struggled with the unelected bureaucrat question. He is unelected, but to me he’s like an anti bureaucrat - more of a maverick giving the establishment a (good in my view) shakeup. So I voted no to that.

Interesting. Thanks for your input. 

[Killer Bunny]

7 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

Yes I would. I particularly dislike liars and rule breakers so anyone thinking and acting for themselves above the law of others. Which is probably why I disliked the way the EU referendum was run. 

I dislike liars and I decided the EU referendum was invalid. Just because.  Also, I knew the rules before the referendum but I lost. So...

[Huggy]

Before I vote, if I decide later to change my mind, are we able to have a 2nd poll?

Is this binding too?

[Huggy]

59 minutes ago, solentmuppet said:

Gina Miller

Who?

[Si1]

It's a bit like the Major govt preaching family values and then all having affairs. Just political hypocricy. I think he's unsackable without Boris going too.

[Bruce Banner]

1 minute ago, Si1 said:

It's a bit like the Major govt preaching family values and then all having affairs. Just political hypocricy. I think he's unsackable without Boris going too.

The longer it goes on the more likely that is.

[Will!]

1 hour ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

There’s an interesting dynamic at play with regards to Dominic Cummings recent behaviour and a hard core group of Brexit supporters that I believe should be further examined and discussed.

Maybe Cummings should be sacked three-and-a-half years later, with a one year transitional period? 

[sammersmith]

18 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

I particularly dislike liars and rule breakers so anyone thinking and acting for themselves above the law of others. Which is probably why I disliked the way the EU referendum was run. 

Agreed. All those lies about interest rates going up and Obama pushing the UK to the back of the queue. Turns out interest rates were dropped and Obama was out a few months later and would never have had any power over a trade deal. Guess it's different though when remainers do it. I'll get back in my box. 

[MonsieurCopperCrutch]

12 minutes ago, Killer Bunny said:

I dislike liars and I decided the EU referendum was invalid. Just because.  Also, I knew the rules before the referendum but I lost. So...

That is fair enough. In what way did you decide that the EU refernedum was invalid?

[longgone]

Gina Miller could lick toilet seats and gob into train staff faces and still get a thumbs up.

[Belfast Boy]

Where are the moderators? This thread belongs in the "off topic" section.

This forum is being turned into a political commentary forum.

[Bruce Banner]

4 minutes ago, sammersmith said:

Agreed. All those lies about interest rates going up and Obama pushing the UK to the back of the queue. Turns out interest rates were dropped and Obama was out a few months later and would never have had any power over a trade deal. Guess it's different though when remainers do it. I'll get back in my box. 

In my opinion, Obama's involvement was what tipped the balance toward Leave. It was a massive miscalculation by Cameron to involve him.

[longgone]

1 minute ago, Bruce Banner said:

In my opinion, Obama's involvement was what tipped the balance toward Leave. It was a massive miscalculation by Cameron to involve him.

That's what's swayed me, I  vote for the worst outcome always.

[Bruce Banner]

1 minute ago, Belfast Boy said:

Where are the moderators? This thread belongs in the "off topic" section.

This forum is being turned into a political commentary forum.

That often happens on HPC.

Popular and topical threads are left on the main forum for a while where they are most visible.

What's the harm in that?