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4 minutes ago, Gigantic Purple Slug said:

"Theres next to zero debate as to whether he broke the law."

So did he or didn't he ?

"Nobody really cares about a £60 fine."

Nobody ? Ah yes, they all care about screwing him over because of his politics, not whether he actually did wrong or not.

"Also you need to remember 65m people have simultaneously had to interpret and live these draconian guidelines under literal life and death circumstances - its not some obscure complicated legal case."

All the more reason to get on with it then.

"Well yes what's extraordinary about this, is the horrific hit to the authority of BJ and the entire government in a time of crisis that BJ is prepared to take. Clearly there is 'something badly wrong' at the heart of all this  - the "man on the Clapham Omnibus" spontaneous reaction of many is that DC must have Kompromat on BJ lol !"

Either that or he feels some personal loyalty is due to the guy who delivered him a thumping majority and has been behind some of the big political wins of modern times, and he feels he has more to offer in terms of strategic planning. Take your pick.

"Welcome to politics, some you win, some you go down burning in flames. Especially when you pour petrol on yourself, p1ss on the audience,  flick a burning match at them and have a cigar."

Welcome to politics? I've never been in it and never intend to. Never been a member of a political party, a Union or a political focus group such as Momentum. You ?

 

 

It's a brave attempt slug and a few others, but you are not trying to reason with level headed people that are open to reason and debate, your are taking on a repetitive mantra from a persistent dozen people who have an agenda masked behind a false sincerity.

Quite simply DC received a £60 fine which probably matched the severity of his crime, to which one ludicrous poster on here then suggested the whole country should or will now ignore the law and do as they wish. OK then, what about MP's who have committed speeding offences , mass fraud, violent crimes and even attempted murder, corporate fraud, illegal arms deals, anti semites , the killing of a partner through sexual asphyxiation,  and a good number of these posters support a party that led to the death of millions of people in the middle east and was the cause of one country hanging their leader based  on a big fat lie, should we now all go out like that silly poster suggested and now commit all those crimes because we are all to dumb to follow our own moral compass, of course not.

And to use an argument that this subject now has 30 pages so must be relevant to the housing debate, Oh please! it's just the same people repeating the same arguments over and over again and who will probably continue for weeks more, where most normal people in normal life and not MOMENTUM supporters  will of been  ticked off by DC and are now well over it.

I await the venom 🙂 

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The Boris stuttering and stammering show lol. That's what happens when you can't remember the truth

Yvette Cooper causing him all kinds of grief, she absolutely nailed the argument about parents and Cummings, and how Boris is just prioritising Cummings over the public, really interrogating him and he has nothing to say back cus he's full of poop.

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If the app flags up that you have been 2 meters away from someone who is infected,

Boris Quote -

"We will asking people to stay at home.  If they won't then we will have to look at financial sanctions"..........lol

 

And Cummings can roam free without an issue.  I'm getting more disgusted by the minute.

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10 minutes ago, crumblingcon said:

It's a brave attempt slug and a few others, but you are not trying to reason with level headed people that are open to reason and debate, your are taking on a repetitive mantra from a persistent dozen people who have an agenda masked behind a false sincerity.

Quite simply DC received a £60 fine which probably matched the severity of his crime, to which one ludicrous poster on here then suggested the whole country should or will now ignore the law and do as they wish. OK then, what about MP's who have committed speeding offences , mass fraud, violent crimes and even attempted murder, corporate fraud, illegal arms deals, anti semites , the killing of a partner through sexual asphyxiation,  and a good number of these posters support a party that led to the death of millions of people in the middle east and was the cause of one country hanging their leader based  on a big fat lie, should we now all go out like that silly poster suggested and now commit all those crimes because we are all to dumb to follow our own moral compass, of course not.

And to use an argument that this subject now has 30 pages so must be relevant to the housing debate, Oh please! it's just the same people repeating the same arguments over and over again and who will probably continue for weeks more, where most normal people in normal life and not MOMENTUM supporters  will of been  ticked off by DC and are now well over it.

I await the venom 🙂 

What he said 👍

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12 minutes ago, highcontrast said:

The Boris stuttering and stammering show lol. That's what happens when you can't remember the truth

Yvette Cooper causing him all kinds of grief, she absolutely nailed the argument about parents and Cummings, and how Boris is just prioritising Cummings over the public, really interrogating him and he has nothing to say back cus he's full of poop.

 

6 minutes ago, Timm said:

Good grief.

What a mess.

He's lost the plot.

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13 minutes ago, crumblingcon said:

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Quite simply DC received a £60 fine which probably matched the severity of his crime

(...)

Has DC had a fine?

 

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2 hours ago, A.steve said:

I think the misunderstanding was all mine. I misintrepreted the scope in which you used the word "viable".

I may have also misinterpreted 'unstable' - it seems you're suggesting that only the replication is unstable - but, once successfully replicated, the viron itself is stable - in the sense that mutation (possibly to something non-viable) is only a risk when it is being replicated by a cell.  I assume virons must also degrade over time (in any environment where they can not replicate)?  If so, what factors affect the rate of degradation for virons?

[Appologies Computer-Scientist-Centric bit...]  If, by 'not viable' - we mean "does not replicate to something that can replicate" - then the software analogy is a block of non-executable machine code. If some RNA sequences are not viable, while others are viable... roughly what proportion of RNA sequences (that could exist temporarily) represent viable virons (if we assume I were able to hook up an RNA sequence printer to a random number generator)?

We are speaking two slightly different languages, so thanks for bearing with me.

Virus reproduction is very unreliable and is performed by the cell that the virus infects. Most of the new virus particles will be badly constructed, with with the RNA or the proteins, but as so many are made it does not matter than much.

Virus particles are pretty weak and most things will degrade them, e.g UV, temperature, detergent etc

The bit in bold is exactly right. Almost all errors in the RNA code will produce a non-viable product or no product. Some mutations do not matter (third base in codon typically, another long story).

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All sounds like the (un-stated) policy is still herd immunity. Lets see how quickly and how effective the track/trace and testing system is rolled out.

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13 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

What a clown-show. The clown-in-chief doesn't commit to going before the committee again before Summer.

Good job we are not in the middle of a pandemic where tens of thousands have lost their lives. 

Could any other political party in this country done any better

Please don't let the Brexit debate cloud your judgement 

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The comments over at the Daily Hate are absolutely ripping this clown a new one.

This is not going away any time. The public not only realise what a liar Cummings is but now understand how weak our PM is.

Omg. The sheer arrogance of this man is unbelievable. Why would i ever ever vote for you guys again. Lost all faith and to top it all there will be consequences if the public do not follow the track and trace guidelines. Are you having a laugh! Give any fines handed out to the public back now. What a breakdown of trust. Sorry but now just indefensible.

 

I bet Boris would like us to 'move on' from this. Unfortunately for him, it's not his decision. The country is angry and we're not going to let him run away from his responsibility for this shambles.

Edited by MonsieurCopperCrutch

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1 minute ago, FANG said:

Could any other political party in this country done any better

Please don't let the Brexit debate cloud your judgement 

Yes.

Evidence: Every other country in the world except the US.

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Just now, FANG said:

Could any other political party in this country done any better

Please don't let the Brexit debate cloud your judgement 

It's too late for your whataboutism. Let's focus on the 50000+ dead under this clownshow governements watch. Let'e deal with cold hard facts.

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4 minutes ago, smash said:

All sounds like the (un-stated) policy is still herd immunity. Lets see how quickly and how effective the track/trace and testing system is rolled out.

Getting to herd immunity, assuming the infected have reasonable long lasting immunity, without swamping the NHS will require years of semi lockdown and those 500k deaths. 

If that's the best they can offer they should really come clean and tell us.

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3 minutes ago, FANG said:

Could any other political party in this country done any better

Please don't let the Brexit debate cloud your judgement 

How can anyone know if any other political party could have done any better seeing as it is impossible to test that out , we are dealing with the present , the here and now.

Edited by Patfig
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To be fair on Boris, he cannot possibly fire Dominic Cummings who knows all the skeletons in his closet, a front bench who are happy to feed off the blood of babies and will toe the line he sets, is still in Covid-19 recovery himself and has the worries of being  a new father on his mind.

Lets give him the benefit of the doubt, and let him put his arms around the UK for a few more years.

 

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10 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

The comments over at the Daily Hate are absolutely ripping this clown a new one.

This is not going away any time. The public not only realise what a liar Cummings is but now understand how weak our PM is.

Omg. The sheer arrogance of this man is unbelievable. Why would i ever ever vote for you guys again. Lost all faith and to top it all there will be consequences if the public do not follow the track and trace guidelines. Are you having a laugh! Give any fines handed out to the public back now. What a breakdown of trust. Sorry but now just indefensible.

 

I bet Boris would like us to 'move on' from this. Unfortunately for him, it's not his decision. The country is angry and we're not going to let him run away from his responsibility for this shambles.

Indeed.

Sort by best rated and it is clear that the above is highly representative of Mainline contributors. 

He's lost the mail!

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Well I just joined the BBC news conference 10 minutes ago and Blo Jo is just so appallingly out of his depth.. dire.

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Lost all faith and to top it all there will be consequences if the public do not follow the track and trace guidelines. Are you having a laugh! Give any fines handed out to the public back now. What a breakdown of trust. Sorry but now just indefensible.

100% agree with this.  Boris actually sat there and said that there would be "financial sanctions" for anyone who didn't isolate themseleves if the app tells them they have been 2 meters away from an infected person.

He had a straight face too.  Absolutely unbelievable.  The train wrecks keep on coming this week....lol.

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29 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said:

 

He's lost the plot.

I doubt it. But it's good to see the female MP asking him questions on equality.

She clearly knows her place, or did Dom insist she ask questions from her kitchen?.

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