Killer Bunny Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Locke said: What does muting do KB? I don’t have to see their posts. I can choose to view or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Bunny Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Locke said: It's so absurd. That is a measure of equality and not poverty. You know it’s absurd. I know it’s absurd. Everyone who thinks about it knows it’s absurd. However IIWII. The question is how does it affect HPs. It helps keeps them huge. Well, let’s see, with higher inflation and unemployment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Bunny Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 True unemployment soars 600k in 3 months Furlough, Self employed scheme and the others are just the most expensive unemployment benefit schemes on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpleasant Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) On 22/05/2020 at 12:08, zugzwang said: If only, if only... A Marxist in No. 10 would solve the nation's problems? (I can't quite read the writing on the wall behind his arm, but it looks very much like Shaft The Future.) Edited June 16, 2020 by mrpleasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Locke said: It's so absurd. That is a measure of equality and not poverty. Well yes, its a mistake to read poverty these days and assume people don't have enough to eat or for clothes etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, mrpleasant said: A Marxist in No. 10 would solve the nation's problems? (I can't quite read the writing on the wall behind his arm, but it looks very much like Shaft The Future.) Corbyn isn't a Marxist. The 2019 manifesto advocated a mixed market economy, firmly within the tradition of the European mainstream Left. Marx was the last great Classical economist. IIRC he coined the phrase 'Classical Economics', though he'd have smarted at the idea of an association with Adam Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 20 hours ago, Chunketh said: I am so tempted to cut my own but feel sure I would end up with a mullet. Never mind Chunketh - there's plenty more fish in the sea for next time. Perhaps the lobster look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Bunny Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mrpleasant said: A Marxist in No. 10 would solve the nation's problems? We have Socialists in Govt, so not much difference. Edited June 16, 2020 by Killer Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, captainb said: Well yes, its a mistake to read poverty these days and assume people don't have enough to eat or for clothes etc Really? With record numbers using food-banks and kids going hungry during the school holidays you might want to think that again. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/16/boris-johnson-faces-tory-rebellion-over-marcus-rashfords-school-meals-call Quote The footballer Marcus Rashford has stepped up his campaign to pressure the UK government into feeding hungry children during the school holidays, buoyed by support from Conservative MPs, businesses and celebrities. On Tuesday morning, the Manchester United player began tweeting about the UK’s poorest families, who cannot afford to pay their water and electricity bills or put food on the table. The prime minister faces a growing rebellion after he rejected the 22-year-old’s demand to extend its free school meal voucher scheme through the summer holidays Robert Halfon, the chair of the education select committee, was one of a number of senior Tories to support Rashford. Speaking on BBC Breakfast, Halfon commended the government for helping vulnerable families by raising the living wage, cutting taxes for lower earners and extending the freeze on fuel duty. But he said carrying on with the free school meals programme “would be the right thing to do” as the latest figures show “2.5 million children are not learning” while away from school and food insecurity has “nearly doubled”. Halfon added: “There are lots of food programmes across different government departments. If they just consolidated those programmes, they would almost have the money for the free school meals programme over the summer, which would cost roughly £110m.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, zugzwang said: Really? With record numbers using food-banks and kids going hungry during the school holidays you might want to think that again. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/16/boris-johnson-faces-tory-rebellion-over-marcus-rashfords-school-meals-call That was in relation to the Hong Kong definition. As for kids going hungry in the school holidays - look up all the available benefits for those with zero income with children. The children going hungry is a choice regardless of what the guardian would have you believe. Cap of £23k per year net so ~£28k per annum gross salary - which campaigners regard as poverty levels. In turn that is an insult to all those who work for less and provide food for their children etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, Killer Bunny said: We have Socialists in Govt, so not much difference. Crony capitalists not socialists. You don't know the difference because you don't know anything about economics or finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Bunny Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, captainb said: That was in relation to the Hong Kong definition. As for kids going hungry in the school holidays - look up all the available benefits for those with zero income with children. The children going hungry is a choice regardless of what the guardian would have you believe. Cap of £23k per year net so ~£28k per annum gross salary - which campaigners regard as poverty levels. In turn that is an insult to all those who work for less and provide food for their children etc. Another reason for my having Muted Zugs. Just can't think clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, Killer Bunny said: Another reason for my having Muted Zugs. Just can't think clearly. You're the only one who's confused. Or should I say, routinely dishonest. You claim in one breath not to time the market then in the next boast of 'locking in' ten weeks of gains. Advise naive readers of this forum (unaware of your HPC history) that cash is trash, and five minutes later flatly contradict yourself. Eyes on you, Tufton Street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, captainb said: That was in relation to the Hong Kong definition. As for kids going hungry in the school holidays - look up all the available benefits for those with zero income with children. The children going hungry is a choice regardless of what the guardian would have you believe. Cap of £23k per year net so ~£28k per annum gross salary - which campaigners regard as poverty levels. In turn that is an insult to all those who work for less and provide food for their children etc. Pwned. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/16/boris-johnson-faces-tory-rebellion-over-marcus-rashfords-school-meals-call Quote Boris Johnson has executed a humiliating U-turn over free school meals for the poorest families over the summer, announcing a new £120m voucher scheme after pressure from footballer Marcus Rashford. Just hours before Labour was due to force a vote on the issue in the House of Commons, risking a rebellion from Conservative backbenchers, the prime minister’s official spokesman announced a new £120m “Covid summer food fund”. “Owing to the corona pandemic, the PM fully understands that children and parents face an entirely unprecedented situation over the summer,” he said. The U-turn came after ministers repeatedly rejected the idea of extending the scheme over the summer, as they did over the Easter break. Asked if Rashford’s pleas had helped to change the prime minister’s mind, his spokesman said: “The prime minister welcomes Marcus Rashford’s contribution to the debate around poverty, and respects the fact that he has been using his profile as a sportsman to highlight important issues.” He said families entitled to free school meals would receive a one-off voucher at the end of the school term, worth £15 a week for the six-week school break, which they can spend in supermarkets. Rashford had stepped up his campaign to pressure the UK government into feeding hungry children during the school holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, zugzwang said: Pwned. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/16/boris-johnson-faces-tory-rebellion-over-marcus-rashfords-school-meals-call Great. The government is run by the tabloid press? Only just worked that out? Pwned? - are you eligible for the free school meals? Edited June 16, 2020 by captainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Bunny Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, captainb said: Great. The government is run by the tabloid press? Only just worked that out? Correct. It's the reason we have nonsense Lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 4 hours ago, captainb said: Great. The government is run by the tabloid press? Only just worked that out? Pwned? - are you eligible for the free school meals? ? Imagine getting yourself into a indignant lather over giving under-privileged kids a square meal every day! If you alt Reich skidmarks had any sense of your own ridiculousness you'd die of shame on the spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Killer Bunny said: Correct. It's the reason we have nonsense Lockdown. Sorry, Tufton Street. The lockdown clusterf**k is all on Bozo and Cummings. The rest of us are just glad to see a grown up at No. 10 for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, zugzwang said: ? Imagine getting yourself into a indignant lather over giving under-privileged kids a square meal every day! If you alt Reich skidmarks had any sense of your own ridiculousness you'd die of shame on the spot. Ok so you are a child the posts make sense. Come back when you have lived a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, captainb said: Ok so you are a child the posts make sense. How difficult is it to understand a young man talking about his own experience of going hungry? 30 minutes ago, captainb said: Come back when you have lived a little Relax, Captain Skidmark. I'm not going anywhere. And it's just as well, because if I don't show up here regularly there's not much point in the rest of you mooks putting in a shift! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainb Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, zugzwang said: How difficult is it to understand a young man talking about his own experience of going hungry? Relax, Captain Skidmark. I'm not going anywhere. And it's just as well, because if I don't show up here regularly there's not much point in the rest of you mooks putting in a shift! Yawn. Im sure that 15 quid a week voucher for 6 weeks, when added to the 20/23k a year benefits will make all the difference and is not just virtue signaling. If only the schools would restart the children are clearly getting restless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 16/06/2020 at 19:31, captainb said: Yawn. Im sure that 15 quid a week voucher for 6 weeks, when added to the 20/23k a year benefits will make all the difference and is not just virtue signaling. If only the schools would restart the children are clearly getting restless. If I had 20/23k a year I wouldn't think £15 a week was insignificant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regprentice Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 On 16/06/2020 at 19:31, captainb said: Yawn. Im sure that 15 quid a week voucher for 6 weeks, when added to the 20/23k a year benefits will make all the difference and is not just virtue signaling. If only the schools would restart the children are clearly getting restless. I believe only England moved to vouchers. My wife is out now delivering cooked lunches to people who can't get to the school. And there's close to a hundred who can get to school queuing each day to pick up food so I'd imagine, even for a basic ham sandwich and a packet of crisps, they believe its worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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