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On 11/04/2020 at 23:37, Si1 said:

Are the republicans going to do whatever it takes to suppress democrat votes, like suppressing postal voting (used by people too busy to get to the polling stations, often democrat voters).

LOL.

Democrats have been stealing elections through fraud for years. They know they can't win legitimately, which is why they want mail-in votes so they can fake as many votes as they need to steal the White House... just as they stole Congressional seats in 2018.

The only chance of democracy surviving in the US is for Trump to win and the Democrats to accept it. If Biden wins, he's going to give the vote to tens of millions of illegal immigrants and eliminate the Electoral College.

At that point, it's impossible for a Republican to ever win again.

And Civil War 2.0 starts.

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11 hours ago, debtlessmanc said:

Who would get the nukes? Can we look forward to a nuclear armed mormon state run out of salt lake city? would a merger of parts of the states with canada be on the cards

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If that happens, 90% of Canada will be joining Jesusland. There's no way we'd stay with the Liberals if we had the choice of joining a real conservative America.

Pretty much the whole of Canada from the outskirts of Vancouver to the outskirts of Toronto has much more in common with the rural US than liberal Canadian cities. Even the natives in the north have been complaining about Trudeau dumping Moslems in their communities, where there are no jobs for them and most supplies have to be flown in.

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12 hours ago, mspL4 said:

There is no Democracy in America. If there ever was, it would've been outlawed a long time ago. Similarly to Voting; it's just there to make Mr & Miss/Mrs Joe/Jo Public believe that they actually have a say in what goes on. Same in this Country really. We've always tried to copy our neighbours over the pond. E.g Trainers, Tracksuits, Music, Drug Epidemics, Unjust Wars, Generational Theft & Corruption from the top down. Sincerest form of flattery apparently?!?

Better than having adolf in charge, I guess that's only redeeming aspect.

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8 hours ago, MarkG said:

LOL.

Democrats have been stealing elections through fraud for years. They know they can't win legitimately, which is why they want mail-in votes so they can fake as many votes as they need to steal the White House... just as they stole Congressional seats in 2018.

The only chance of democracy surviving in the US is for Trump to win and the Democrats to accept it. If Biden wins, he's going to give the vote to tens of millions of illegal immigrants and eliminate the Electoral College.

At that point, it's impossible for a Republican to ever win again.

And Civil War 2.0 starts.

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Surrre Jan. These guys are just desperate for some excuse to start executing black people and 'corrective' raping democrat women. 

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9 hours ago, MarkG said:

Democrats have been stealing elections through fraud for years. They know they can't win legitimately, which is why they want mail-in votes so they can fake as many votes as they need to steal the White House... just as they stole Congressional seats in 2018.

The only chance of democracy surviving in the US is for Trump to win and the Democrats to accept it. If Biden wins, he's going to give the vote to tens of millions of illegal immigrants and eliminate the Electoral College.

Do you have a single piece of supporting evidence for any of the allegations in the above? (not including anything sourced from Alex Jones).

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10 hours ago, MarkG said:

LOL.

Democrats have been stealing elections through fraud for years. They know they can't win legitimately, which is why they want mail-in votes so they can fake as many votes as they need to steal the White House... just as they stole Congressional seats in 2018.

The only chance of democracy surviving in the US is for Trump to win and the Democrats to accept it. If Biden wins, he's going to give the vote to tens of millions of illegal immigrants and eliminate the Electoral College.

At that point, it's impossible for a Republican to ever win again.

And Civil War 2.0 starts.

So in your world giving everyone the vote and making all votes count equals the end of democracy ??? 

Don't like the result of a democratic election equal Civil War 2 ??? 

It would appear that you just don't like democracy

 

 

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On 4/12/2020 at 9:20 AM, Dorkins said:

Elections should be abolished anyway, by concentrating voters' opportunity to exercise power down to a single day every few years it makes it much easier for rich and well connected individuals and organisations to manipulate the system. Voting should be continuous, with voters able to change who represents them at any time.

This is a great idea! So logical!

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All the result of the new struggle against "The Four Olds".   

Old ideas, old customs, old culture, and old habits of mind.

The red guards now replaced by the likes of Forever Family Force, BLM and extinction rebellion.  Young, angry and crying out for a cultural revolution.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Four-Olds

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When Mao formally launched the Cultural Revolution in August 1966, he had already shut down the schools. During the following months, he encouraged the Red Guards to attack all traditional values and “bourgeois” things and to put CCP officials to the test by publicly criticizing them. These attacks were known at the time as struggles against the Four Olds (i.e., old ideas, customs, culture, and habits of mind), and the movement quickly escalated to committing outrages. Many elderly people and intellectuals were physically abused, and many died. Nonetheless, Mao believed that this mobilization of urban youths would be beneficial for them and that the CCP cadres they attacked would be better for the experience.

 

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8 hours ago, Bemmymate said:

This is a great idea! So logical!

Thanks! You are the first person to ever respond to that idea with anything other than bemusement. People are so used to 4-5 year election cycles that they struggle to imagine representative democracy operating any other way.

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23 hours ago, smash said:

Be careful, to many Americans what you are looking at there is the ultimate expression of human freedom.

56GG moobs...take that nanny state! 

We’re not far off. Remember those mums feeding kids chips through the school rails?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/mums-sell-pupils-pies-to-defy-jamie-oliver-7219742.html

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On 14/08/2020 at 13:09, Locke said:

The US is a Republic, not a Democracy.

https://fee.org/articles/democracy-or-republic/

Democrats admit their un-American nature in their very name.

Oh spare us the crank libertarian articles. The US has had nationwide popular elections since 1788. 

And the American fetishization of their Constitution is utterly tedious too. 

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Rolling power cuts in California at the moment

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-heat-triggers-power-outages-second-day-n1236881

also it appears the californian shanty towns have extended into the tourist areas

https://www.losfelizledger.com/l-a-homelessness-rose-16-this-year-pre-covid-19-per-revised-count/

i lived and worked in california in 2006/7. i couldn't understand how the Yanks tolerated it then, its got worse.

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On 16/08/2020 at 11:25, debtlessmanc said:

Privatisation combined with California being semi-uninhabitable scrubland and desert (with wildfires raging more and more out of control, like with Australia). 

There's a conscensus things are going off the rails with the Western world order (tied with global warming, capitalism vanishing up its backside, and overpopulation):

 

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On 15/08/2020 at 01:02, MarkG said:

LOL.

Democrats have been stealing elections through fraud for years. They know they can't win legitimately, which is why they want mail-in votes so they can fake as many votes as they need to steal the White House... just as they stole Congressional seats in 2018.

The only chance of democracy surviving in the US is for Trump to win and the Democrats to accept it. If Biden wins, he's going to give the vote to tens of millions of illegal immigrants and eliminate the Electoral College.

At that point, it's impossible for a Republican to ever win again.

And Civil War 2.0 starts.

He won't widen the franchise. He's just a less mad version of Trump... Why do you say the Dems can't win legitimately? They got 48% of the vote last time, compared to the GOP's 46%. I take your point re: the electoral college, but with a vote share like that last time, and the country going to hell in a handcart over the last 4 years, it would be a fair bet that the Dems carry this years vote quite legitimately.

With a vote share of 48% giving only 42% of the electoral vote, I can see why the Dems might want to tinker with the Electoral College, can't you? But with the Supreme Court now balanced to the right, I doubt he'll manage it. The oldest GOP appointment is 'only' 72, he could probably see out Biden's 4 years easily!

With Trump out of the picture, neither side will want Civil War 2.0, they both know that external forces would love to flood the place with arms and support to both sides if it were to happen...

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On 15/08/2020 at 05:22, Confusion of VIs said:

So in your world giving everyone the vote and making all votes count equals the end of democracy ???

Giving votes to non-Americans equals the end of democracy, yes.

And, you're right. Democracy is one of the dumbest ideas ever, and we're seeing exactly why right now.

Even the ancient Greeks knew that democracy inevitably collapsed into tyranny.

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On 03/09/2020 at 08:21, AThirdWay said:

Why do you say the Dems can't win legitimately?

Because their candidate is a demented child-sniffer, and his supporters are burning down cities. No-one in their right mind is going to vote for Biden.

As for the 'popular vote' nonsense, millions of those votes were fraudulent. Many states have no effective means of preventing electoral fraud.

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7 hours ago, MarkG said:

Because their candidate is a demented child-sniffer, and his supporters are burning down cities. No-one in their right mind is going to vote for Biden.

As for the 'popular vote' nonsense, millions of those votes were fraudulent. Many states have no effective means of preventing electoral fraud.

Hopefully you are just having some fun trolling. If not you have my sympathy.

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On 13/09/2020 at 03:49, MarkG said:

Because their candidate is a demented child-sniffer, and his supporters are burning down cities. No-one in their right mind is going to vote for Biden.

As for the 'popular vote' nonsense, millions of those votes were fraudulent. Many states have no effective means of preventing electoral fraud.

twit!

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LOL.

Democrats have been stealing elections through fraud for years. They know they can't win legitimately, which is why they want mail-in votes so they can fake as many votes as they need to steal the White House... just as they stole Congressional seats in 2018.

The only chance of democracy surviving in the US is for Trump to win and the Democrats to accept it. If Biden wins, he's going to give the vote to tens of millions of illegal immigrants and eliminate the Electoral College.

At that point, it's impossible for a Republican to ever win again.

And Civil War 2.0 starts.

The republican kill ratio is about 70%, the mob is about 15% (they are not as good shots and sometimes shoot each other by mistake, or point loaded weapons at each other without realizing).

The military are generally on the side of Trump, the police and police organizations support Trump, Gun sales are through the roof in 2020 because people want to protect themselves from violent rioters.

Democrats are also helping the military make their mind up with things like this

Joe Biden's loose lips killed Seal team 6.

As for China, their army is largely made up of conscripts who love their country as much as it loves them and want to get through their 4 years then p*ss off to do a quiet job in an office. It's not funny really for them though, if you go on holiday to China (not now obviously), your tour guide will start crying if you suggest they come visit you in your country and that you stay touch, after which, they disappear.

I find this upsetting.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIErg6kqjEs

 

 

Do you have a single piece of supporting evidence for any of the allegations in the above? (not including anything sourced from Alex Jones).

A top Democratic operative says voter fraud, especially with mail-in ballots, is no myth. And he knows this because he’s been doing it, on a grand scale, for decades.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/28/new-jersey-democrats-charged-mail-in-voter-fraud/

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/texas-democrat-official-3-others-indicted-on-134-felony-counts-involving-mail-in-ballot-fraud/

https://www.westernjournal.com/four-people-charged-mail-election-fraud-dems-continue-push-vote-mail/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html#!

If you want more just ask.

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Because their candidate is a demented child-sniffer, and his supporters are burning down cities. No-one in their right mind is going to vote for Biden.

When Biden was VP the secret service kept their wives and girlfriends away, and protected female agents from him!

https://theduran.com/secret-service-agents-says-creepy-joe-biden-would-mess-with-every-single-woman-or-teen/

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When I said "source", I didn't mean Breitbart. You've really gone down the rabbit hole.

As is so often the case, this is all your side has got; the idea that the truth only comes from sources you approve of. Here is the same from mainstream CNN.......

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/25/politics/new-jersey-attorney-general-announces-voting-fraud-charges/index.html

Given that it was a councilman and councilman-elect, it is very easy to know if they were Republican or Democrat or any other party. The CNN article doesn't mention this. The Breitbart version saves time and gives this information.

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