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I think this may be the thing that finally gives the USA single payer universal healthcare.

I think that, as others infer, this will bring society together more.

And I think Labour stand a decent chance of winning the next GE, and also the current govt are inevitably embracing necessary nationalisations to see us through the crisis. Whilst they will hastily privatise what they can afterwards, it will see a more generous attitude towards social good and against speculative greed, especially after the vile protestations of small minded landlords thinking they have some kind of special claim, and Richard Branson also.

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1 hour ago, Patfig said:

No more pubs many may not re open so more socialising at home.

So much more soup making...………..

I would like to think the public house will survive this......

.....some business will no longer trade but new ones will take their place......out with the old, in with the new.;)

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More home hairdressing.

Just had to cut my wife's hair - foruntately I have a set of decent electric clippers.

She was quite nervous though, particularly when I pointed out that has a student engineer I had to programme CNC Milling Machines.

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2 hours ago, winkie said:

Many more people working from home.

More virtual group meetings.

Not so sure about working from home. Some employers, including hmrc, reporting a 50% drop in productivity. In fact my employer (another govt agency) has been issuing comms telling people not to worry, we understand you can't work as effectively at home, this is a phase we will get through and we will all get back to productive work in the end. 

All the virtual solutions I've been using have been buckling under the weight of the network load. Skype is now only for using with groups of up to 6, and video is to be disabled by default to protect the network. We've gone back to using dial in conference call numbers, which we haven't used in years. 

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2 hours ago, rantnrave said:

Much more embracing of socialist ideas. Keir Starmer to be next PM?

Hard to swallow but do you think Boris is several steps ahead of us, realised that the Tory offering is no longer going to cut  and is already setting up camp in Starmer territory?  Either him or the other guy.

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48 minutes ago, Riedquat said:

I'd be surprised if it's largely back to normal before long after it's over and pretty much entirely forgotten within a few years.

 

Fair comment - never underestimate the ability of humans to return to business as usual after crises. Unfortunately, lessons aren't learnt and we kick ourselves when it happens again.

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6 hours ago, winkie said:

Will life ever be the same again??

Well yes and no.  Life changes every year to some degree.  You wouldn't have expected 2021 to be the same as 2019 even with no virus.

But COVID-19 will nudge us in different directions - the NHS might be a bit more valued, the simple pleasures of life will be more appreciated (but only for a while....people's memories are short), people who've been forced to work from home might discover they rather like it and carry on, ditto people who have discovered new hobbies or cooked for themselves a bit more.

"Will life ever be the same again" carries a negative connotation, but if anything most of the medium term impacts are likely to be positive, just as the roaring 1920s, and fondly-remembered 1950s came just after the two world wars.

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2 hours ago, Riedquat said:

I'd be surprised if it's largely back to normal before long after it's over and pretty much entirely forgotten within a few years.

 

Depends if they find a vaccine? Could be a year or more or never and it will need full trials before it can be given globally.

And what it if comes back with a vengeance in the winter with an even worse strain as happened with the Spanish flu which came back twice each time more deadly?

Are we going to stay in lockdown or keep the over 70s at home until they find a vaccine?

This could go on for a year or more on and off! And where will the world economy be by then?

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Not socialist, but a stronger leaning towards Social Democracy and the social contract.

This is wishful thinking, but I'd love to see a new centrist party pulled out from the Tories and Labour, leaving the ERG / Looney left dregs. Small but strong government with a social contract.  Private companies allowed to flourish with the permission of the people.

Pipe dream I know

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9 minutes ago, scottbeard said:

Well yes and no.  Life changes every year to some degree.  You wouldn't have expected 2021 to be the same as 2019 even with no virus.

But COVID-19 will nudge us in different directions - the NHS might be a bit more valued, the simple pleasures of life will be more appreciated (but only for a while....people's memories are short), people who've been forced to work from home might discover they rather like it and carry on, ditto people who have discovered new hobbies or cooked for themselves a bit more.

"Will life ever be the same again" carries a negative connotation, but if anything most of the medium term impacts are likely to be positive, just as the roaring 1920s, and fondly-remembered 1950s came just after the two world wars.

yes, I can relate to that......some good things do emerge form the not so good.....;)

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4 minutes ago, msi said:

Not socialist, but a stronger leaning towards Social Democracy and the social contract.

This is wishful thinking, but I'd love to see a new centrist party pulled out from the Tories and Labour, leaving the ERG / Looney left dregs. Small but strong government with a social contract.  Private companies allowed to flourish with the permission of the people.

Pipe dream I know

.....not a bad concept, many would follow....can but hope, hope is all we have.;)

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All things are possible.

I would not be surprised to see a revulsion with all things of the left and a move towards authoritarianism.

Global travel, loose immigration policies, greater concern with individual rights rather than those of the people as a whole will wither.

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Most of small businesses gone bust will have dogs chance in hell to reopen. USA is going beyond insane level of damage. It will take 5 years to even feel normal. The economy will have reorganise and some sectors of business will not see much revival like tourism, hotels, even sports.

More govt surveillance will become norm of society and we may see immunity passports and dozens of new vaccines being made mandatory.

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