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Property poof piece as the guardinstas are getting laid off...

Not sure how Lodon will survive, loosing its creme de la creme

Cox, the founder of a male cancer charity who runs marathons in a giant testicle costume, quit London for Leeds with his partner three years ago. “My walking pace has changed,” he said. “Not swift brisk London pace any more. It’s a lot slower. The feeling that you are not getting ripped off is nice. Eating out is cheap. Curries are good. Ordering two beers and getting change from a £10 note is still an eye opener.”

 

 

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1 hour ago, spyguy said:

Property poof piece as the guardinstas are getting laid off...

Not sure how Lodon will survive, loosing its creme de la creme

Cox, the founder of a male cancer charity who runs marathons in a giant testicle costume, quit London for Leeds with his partner three years ago. “My walking pace has changed,” he said. “Not swift brisk London pace any more. It’s a lot slower. The feeling that you are not getting ripped off is nice. Eating out is cheap. Curries are good. Ordering two beers and getting change from a £10 note is still an eye opener.”

Leeds does have a lot going for, certainly eating out there is always good. And yes, it is far better value than London. It also lacks some of the nasty surprises in London, which does have some real rat infested establishments. 

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2 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Leeds does have a lot going for, certainly eating out there is always good. And yes, it is far better value than London. It also lacks some of the nasty surprises in London, which does have some real rat infested establishments. 

People have always moved to london then left in their 30s, for kids.

Previously they left with some equity which, if london-north price differential panned out, gave you a hefty deposit. Thats a gamble though.

Since 2000s majority of london leavers have left wit f-all being leached by LL and the large number of benefit deoendent migrants making housing v expensive.

For all the 'london great!' 90% of workers under 50 have a pretty miserable, expensive time.

Far better to not go. Just get tge train in a few times a year, on a cgesp ticket deal. Youll have a much more fun london experience than most londoners.

 

 

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I am in my mid fifties and over the years I have known so many people that have left london, if you speak to people 15ish years after leaving most regret it, the media loves to say negative things about london and this is something people put into their conscience, not accepting everywhere has problems.

London is the most wonderful city in the world, at the same time when I get to 75 I might also move up north 

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Human nature sees that people move to the places that they see as the most attractive to them, their life today and into the future, can be for all sorts of reasons....swings and roundabouts, positives and negatives....technology means that we are all connected, we can almost work anywhere.....there are places in the UK where the population in the past had seen few incomers....think they used to call it 'in bred' not that I like that term....today one place can see people moving in from all corners of the UK.....could in the future be from all corners of the world....who knows?;)

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2 hours ago, prozac said:

I am in my mid fifties and over the years I have known so many people that have left london, if you speak to people 15ish years after leaving most regret it, the media loves to say negative things about london and this is something people put into their conscience, not accepting everywhere has problems.

London is the most wonderful city in the world, at the same time when I get to 75 I might also move up north 

London is a wonderful city....but city life is not for everyone, why many Londoners rarely travel into town, rarely visit shows or museums....far too busy working and living a life, many don't know the names of their neighbours, anonymous, thousands around you but  nobody knows you .....always tomorrow, when tomorrow often never comes.;)

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6 minutes ago, winkie said:

London is a wonderful city....but city life is not for everyone, 

You can have city life in Leeds Manchester or Birmingham with much less stress

 

Opera

Musicals

Ballet

Shows

Restaurants

Bars

Parks

Gyms

Sports teams

Festivals of all kinds

Jazz

Nightclubs

Comedy clubs

International airports

Easy access to spectacular surrounding countryside (ok not sure London has this but the others do tend to)

Cafes

Markets

Fresh food

Colleges

Universities

Libraries

Etc etc

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3 minutes ago, Si1 said:

You can have city life in Leeds Manchester or Birmingham with much less stress

Actually sounds very appealing, so does Glasgow and Edinburgh....every dog has its day....change is coming. ;)

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2 minutes ago, winkie said:

Actually sounds very appealing, so does Glasgow and Edinburgh....every dog has its day....change is coming. ;)

Bristol (though tend to have London prices). Sheffield and Liverpool to a lesser extent as their local politics is a bit anti business. Funny thing.

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6 minutes ago, Si1 said:

You can have city life in Leeds Manchester or Birmingham with much less stress

 

Opera

Musicals

Ballet

Shows

Restaurants

Bars

Parks

Gyms

Sports teams

Festivals of all kinds

Jazz

Nightclubs

Comedy clubs

International airports

Easy access to spectacular surrounding countryside (ok not sure London has this but the others do tend to)

Cafes

Markets

Fresh food

Colleges

Universities

Libraries

Etc etc

Not all things are for all people.....some of the above entertainment would not be entertainment to some nor affordable....aimed often at the tourist industry not the resident workers....other places can offer something better, are less expensive, some are totally free, communities are generally not for profit, share resources....or there is always the tinternet and free delivery to the door.;)

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14 minutes ago, Si1 said:

You can have city life in Leeds Manchester or Birmingham with much less stress

 

Opera

Musicals

Ballet

Shows

Restaurants

Bars

Parks

Gyms

Sports teams

Festivals of all kinds

Jazz

Nightclubs

Comedy clubs

International airports

Easy access to spectacular surrounding countryside (ok not sure London has this but the others do tend to)

Cafes

Markets

Fresh food

Colleges

Universities

Libraries

Etc etc

You czn also get the train at the weekend.

Seriously. Fast train from Yawk is just under 2hours. Get down for 10am, catch 10pm train home - museums and a meal.

When i was a kid, I used to catch the bus to newcastle - one allyoucaneat  network ticket, 2 buses, 6 hour roundtrip....

 

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6 hours ago, spyguy said:

Property poof piece as the guardinstas are getting laid off...

Not sure how Lodon will survive, loosing its creme de la creme

Cox, the founder of a male cancer charity who runs marathons in a giant testicle costume, quit London for Leeds with his partner three years ago. “My walking pace has changed,” he said. “Not swift brisk London pace any more. It’s a lot slower. The feeling that you are not getting ripped off is nice. Eating out is cheap. Curries are good. Ordering two beers and getting change from a £10 note is still an eye opener.”

 

Lot to be said about that.;)

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32 minutes ago, Si1 said:

Bristol (though tend to have London prices). Sheffield and Liverpool to a lesser extent as their local politics is a bit anti business. Funny thing.

Who is to say why a similar property around similar jobs is worth a different price in different places....thought for the day.;)

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6 hours ago, spyguy said:

Property poof piece as the guardinstas are getting laid off...

Not sure how Lodon will survive, loosing its creme de la creme

Cox, the founder of a male cancer charity who runs marathons in a giant testicle costume, quit London for Leeds with his partner three years ago. “My walking pace has changed,” he said. “Not swift brisk London pace any more. It’s a lot slower. The feeling that you are not getting ripped off is nice. Eating out is cheap. Curries are good. Ordering two beers and getting change from a £10 note is still an eye opener.”

 

 

In my local Spoons you can buy THREE pints of Ruddles and get change from a FIVER. Loads of other beers and under £2.50/pint.

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7 minutes ago, GeneCernan said:

In my local Spoons you can buy THREE pints of Ruddles and get change from a FIVER. Loads of other beers and under £2.50/pint.

Yes, different prices different places.....people the same, air the same, beer the same.;)

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13 minutes ago, Dorkins said:

If the North already has higher living standards than the South what exactly is the complaint that the Red Wall -> Tory constituencies want addressing?

There isn't one. They've realised all parties are socialist so it doesn't matter.

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2 minutes ago, Noallegiance said:

There isn't one. They've realised all parties are socialist so it doesn't matter.

I still think the Great Complaint is old people in Northern England who want their house to be worth £400k instead of £200k so they don't feel like the poor cousins when they see the in-laws at Christmas.

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3 hours ago, GeneCernan said:

In my local Spoons you can buy THREE pints of Ruddles and get change from a FIVER. Loads of other beers and under £2.50/pint.

To be frank, i only ever drink in sam smiths in london. At least when im spending my own money.

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5 hours ago, winkie said:

Actually sounds very appealing, so does Glasgow and Edinburgh....every dog has its day....change is coming. ;)

It is. I've felt for a long time now that in lifestyle terms, for the majority of people there is much better to be had in regional cities. Not the super rich or those who really do take frequent advantage of the things nowhere but London offers. But they are a small minority. Cheaper housing, still overpriced but cheaper, and there's usually a lot on in most big cities too. As a quick example, last month I saw the Moscow Ballet's Nutcracker for £13 in Manchester and next month going to the Birmingham Royal Ballet's Swan Lake at Salford Quays, which I think was about £20 as I wasn't organised enough to get the cheapo seats this time. Neither are quite the Bolshoi but perfectly fine for me and everyone who isn't an utterly expert aficionado, you know?

If you can get yourself on a half decent salary, life in or near a regional city is very pleasant and even if you can't, a modestly comfortable life is still within reach for those with average incomes.

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13 hours ago, Saving For a Space Ship said:

They've stopped coming to anywhere south of Stafford now. 

 

The question they don't ask is... Who's going to buy their house off them at the london style price they're paying 

 

 

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