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9 minutes ago, CityLAD88888 said:

Purely economic?

Seems so. Based on a complete lack of understanding on the end result.

This is what happens when you elect, as PM!,  an idiot whose only skill is writing donkey f***ing poems.

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6 hours ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

This is kind of back to my Darwinian point, over time we can damage the collective population by enhancing the survivability of traits we might not desire.

That said, if all the new entrants are over 50 and less likely to have kids, then the trait will only get passed on a more latent form. But I guess a younger person has more time to fix their diet and exercise routine, which could hide / prevent a predisposition.

By the logic expressed in your posts, those fat, idle and junk food eating kids are actually driving forward the creation of a fitter stronger race.  Selflessly weeding out genetic weaknesses that continue to be propagated by their skinny gym bunny wholefood eating peers.  

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18 hours ago, anonguest said:

Perhaps a caution to the UK Govt?  In its apparent 'cutting corners' plans to admister single doses only and delay second doses.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/19/single-covid-vaccine-dose-in-israel-less-effective-than-we-hoped

 

Its about time this government were more cautious. 

I'd be mad if I'd consented to taking the 1st dose on the agreement that the 2nd dose would be given within the timeline of 21 days, as per the trial study of the vaccine supplier.  Then the government decided to delay it, and my 2nd appointment then cancelled. (as we have heard has been happening).

As already mentioned on here, the government may even mix and max vaccines, again not recommended by their trial study.

Does anyone know if the UK is the only country doing this?

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Definite slowing down of this thread.

Are people bored of COVID yet?

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42 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Definite slowing down of this thread.

Are people bored of COVID yet?

United Kingdom Coronavirus: 3,505,754 Cases and 93,290 Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

Latest News
January 20 (GMT)  updates
38,905 new cases and 1,820 new deaths in the United Kingdom

Aside from the tragedy of tens of thousands of people suddenly bereaved, this must surely be causing some capacity problems immediately after a record death toll yesterday.

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59 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Definite slowing down of this thread.

Are people bored of COVID yet?

In Canada, Manitoba, the rules don't apply to the government. He literally says “Restrictions don’t apply to governments”.....

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8 hours ago, Peter Hun said:

Priti Patel says government should have closed borders last March to stop coronavirus

 

Home Secretary says she wanted to close borders last year but appears to suggest she was overruled

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-close-borders-coronavirus-travel-b1789926.html

 

So she's not entirely stupid after all.

It was reported back in March that the Home Secretary wanted to close the borders. This must be a case of ideology over ruling logic. Remainers would generally be opposed to closing borders because free movement. And Brexiters wouldn't want to close borders because it would show that we could control them if we wanted. Maybe that's why they've waited till now.

 

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6 minutes ago, hotblack42 said:

United Kingdom Coronavirus: 3,505,754 Cases and 93,290 Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

Latest News
January 20 (GMT)  updates
38,905 new cases and 1,820 new deaths in the United Kingdom

Aside from the tragedy of tens of thousands of people suddenly bereaved, this must surely be causing some capacity problems immediately after a record death toll yesterday.

So the UK has 1820 new deaths today. Out of this....

Northern Ireland had 22 deaths today..

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-northern-ireland-22-further-19663656

Scotland had 92 deaths today...

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Wales had 44 deaths today...

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-infection-rates-cases-wales-19662688

Not sure of the figures, but even taking into account population, isn't a death rate of 1662 for England very high compared to the others?

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2 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

So glad this pandemic was over last summer. Can you imagine how bad it would be now if it wasn't? Thank God for all the armchair epidemiologists and denialists on here who know better.

have you had your mRNA injection yet?

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5 minutes ago, Arpeggio said:

1820 COVID19 deaths in one day? That's more than Belarus have had in total since March last year according to WHO (1,601).

https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/by

It isn't many.

Even if it carried on at that level for a year, that is only 664,300, which is less than 1% of the population.

If the population replacement rate matched the death rate for a duration, and people only died of COVID, the average age of death would be 100.

 

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7 minutes ago, MonsieurCopperCrutch said:

So glad this pandemic was over last summer. Can you imagine how bad it would be now if it wasn't? Thank God for all the armchair epidemiologists and denialists on here who know better.

 

Apparently we can end lockdown completely. Everyone can go around licking each other as a celebration. Not only that but docs and nurses will be able to put their feet up, maybe puff away on a few cigars. Ending lockdown somehow frees the hospital beds and the NHS will be at it's lowest patent numbers in it's entire history. 

You can't beat getting your expert Covid facts from HPC.  

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10 minutes ago, Arpeggio said:

have you had your mRNA injection yet?

Why go to the trouble of tricking your body into making a protein spike, when you can receive a right royal rogering courtesy of the Government.

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1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Definite slowing down of this thread.

Are people bored of COVID yet?

I was bored of it as soon as it became clear, last year, that this is not even remotely a genuinely socio-economically destructive plague.

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10 minutes ago, miguel said:

 

Apparently we can end lockdown completely. Everyone can go around licking each other as a celebration. Not only that but docs and nurses will be able to put their feet up, maybe puff away on a few cigars. Ending lockdown somehow frees the hospital beds and the NHS will be at it's lowest patent numbers in it's entire history. 

You can't beat getting your expert Covid facts from HPC.  

High Philosophers in COVID.

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11 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

It isn't many.

Even if it carried on at that level for a year, that is only 664,300, which is less than 1% of the population.

So not the plague and a large part of the 1% will not be helped by lockdown or vaccine (this will become more evident over time), as opposed to things that would make them less vulnerable to many more things than just C19.

11 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

If the population replacement rate matched the death rate for a duration, and people only died of COVID, the average age of death would be 100.

Interesting, how did you work that out?

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10 minutes ago, anonguest said:

I was bored of it as soon as it became clear, last year, that this is not even remotely a genuinely socio-economically destructive plague.

I knew this since March / April 2020. Partly due to the Princess Cruise death rate and its generally older passengers.

Also it hasn't been classed as an HCID since 19 March 2020   https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

 

19 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

Why go to the trouble of tricking your body into making a protein spike, when you can receive a right royal rogering courtesy of the Government.

I wouldn't. MonsierCopperCrutch should though.

Not that this hasn't been mentioned here before: Animal testing (virus challenge) phase was skipped on these mRNA vaccines and past studies of mRNA vaccines didn't get past the animal testing phase.

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