mallish Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 18 hours ago, scottbeard said: In my case it's more that I'm fed up of people being rude to me, or just entrenched and tired debates about the European Union. Scott - ignore the rude comments or just laugh at them -do not worry about it You are one of the sensible folk here who does not resort to infantile insults if you do not agree with someone else's point of view. If there were loads of posts it would have been because there the housing market was falling on it's feet 17 hours ago, prozac said: It’s not this forum, it’s a reflection of this country To be fair I do not agree - this is the only place I know where the EU debate carries on regardless - I have mates and family who voted leave and who voted remain but are just getting on with their lives rather than say the same thing over and over and over an..... None of us have fallen out over it none of us call each other name - we all respect the other person has the right to a different opinion and have moved on 16 hours ago, Bluestone59 said: Road works and Attenborough and Thumbag going on about climate change make me quickly revert to obnoxious. LOL Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Locke said: It is hilarious when people suffering from these echochamber delusions and rage gripe about the other "side" being deluded and trapped in an echochamber. When did I claim I wasn’t? Nevertheless, well done for reducing an interesting talking point into a binary us/them dismissal. Thumbs up emoji. The point still stands that people are being groomed into extremes of emotion that destroy all chance of debate and subtlety. Like now. 15 minutes ago, Locke said: You understand that your chart blows apart your particular brand of fearmongering, right? I'd ask if you were an idiot, but... And there we go. Rudeness. Name calling. Baseless accusations. Nothing sensible to add to the conversation. Just like in every scenario. Don’t you ever get tired of being ‘mad online’ to strangers? Silly question. Of course not. Strong emotions are too addictive. Edit to add: this is how forums die. They get repetitive and boring. Edited January 17, 2020 by PeanutButter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slawek Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 9 hours ago, DonJop12 said: Yes, that has caused me to be a bit quiet on here. GE2017 gave me reason for optimism. While the electorate was sharply divided by age it looked as though a tipping point was approaching when politics would shift away from the interests of boomers. Clearly GE2019 has torpedoed that thesis. There was a political realignment but not quite the one I was expecting. Not much changed about the age divide between GE2017 and GE2019. With Corbynism dying anti-Tory vote was more spread among other parties. In the FPTP system that means a huge gains for Tories, even if their share of votes has practically not changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simhadri Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 https://moneyweek.com/investments/property/house-prices/600638/uk-house-prices-may-be-heading-for-a-boris-bounce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Justice League Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) All the young need to do is refuse to borrow funny money from the bent banks. Then it's game over for our debt based worthless currency system. Edited January 17, 2020 by Social Justice League typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, PeanutButter said: When did I claim I wasn’t? Nevertheless, well done for reducing an interesting talking point into a binary us/them dismissal. Thumbs up emoji. The point still stands that people are being groomed into extremes of emotion that destroy all chance of debate and subtlety. Surely that is partly the fault of the left for calling everyone who disagree with them evil, racist, gammon etc? Fortunately it has not worked that well but sadly hasn't changed them. It isn't IMHO racist to complain about someone getting off a plane and getting a nicer home than you can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simvastatin Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Locke said: You understand that your chart blows apart your particular brand of fearmongering, right? I'd ask if you were an idiot, but... Lol, that’s telling him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, iamnumerate said: It isn't IMHO racist to complain about someone getting off a plane and getting a nicer home than you can afford. Over christmas standing at the bar of one of my usual haunts in central London two guys talking about how one of them pretended to be homeless for two years and got given a flat to live in and bought for a song under the RTB scheme. apparently the council stuck him in a hotel for two months and bought a place for him. i could of smashed the glass with my fist at the time, seems everyone else is making out like bandits and poor old dumb savers like me get nothing apart from more sick of all this chit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, longgone said: Over christmas standing at the bar of one of my usual haunts in central London two guys talking about how one of them pretended to be homeless for two years and got given a flat to live in and bought for a song under the RTB scheme. apparently the council stuck him in a hotel for two months and bought a place for him. i could of smashed the glass with my fist at the time, seems everyone else is making out like bandits and poor old dumb savers like me get nothing apart from more sick of all this chit. Don't let the barstaff get you down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, winkie said: Don't let the barstaff get you down. They are probably at it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, longgone said: Over christmas standing at the bar of one of my usual haunts in central London two guys talking about how one of them pretended to be homeless for two years and got given a flat to live in and bought for a song under the RTB scheme. apparently the council stuck him in a hotel for two months and bought a place for him. i could of smashed the glass with my fist at the time, seems everyone else is making out like bandits and poor old dumb savers like me get nothing apart from more sick of all this chit. If there were no benefits, no one could abuse them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simvastatin Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Locke said: If there were no benefits, no one could abuse them. Isn’t that cure worse than the disease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, longgone said: Over christmas standing at the bar of one of my usual haunts in central London two guys talking about how one of them pretended to be homeless for two years and got given a flat to live in and bought for a song under the RTB scheme. apparently the council stuck him in a hotel for two months and bought a place for him. i could of smashed the glass with my fist at the time, seems everyone else is making out like bandits and poor old dumb savers like me get nothing apart from more sick of all this chit. Wow - that is awful. I am surprised thought that he could do that, a friend of mine was homeless and got nothing as he was a man. Fortunately he did get a rich girlfriend later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Invective Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 hours ago, PeanutButter said: Watch it for literally 1 minute. https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ Then tell me you don’t think we have massive problems heading our way. Cool site - amazing to see the population imbalances. China and India, nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, iamnumerate said: Fortunately he did get a rich girlfriend later on. untapped market ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, prozac said: Isn’t that cure worse than the disease Painful in the short run, sure, but benefits are going away, voluntarily or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Trump Invective said: Cool site - amazing to see the population imbalances. China and India, nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Locke said: If there were no benefits, no one could abuse them. It is probably possible to have benefits which are not abused. Workfare where the amount per hour is the same as what people get on the minimum wage is an obvious way of doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simvastatin Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, longgone said: Over christmas standing at the bar of one of my usual haunts in central London two guys talking about how one of them pretended to be homeless for two years and got given a flat to live in and bought for a song under the RTB scheme. apparently the council stuck him in a hotel for two months and bought a place for him. i could of smashed the glass with my fist at the time, seems everyone else is making out like bandits and poor old dumb savers like me get nothing apart from more sick of all this chit. Where was your manor when you were younger, Wood Green, Camden, harringay, crouch end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HariSeldon Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, hurlerontheditch said: there is a lot of pent up buyers out there who want to get on with life A friend of mine within the M25 has been kite flying since 2018 - a couple of offers since then fizzled out but everything changed after the General Election when I started getting much more upbeat texts from him. Last night he texted to let me know he exchanged yesterday, completion in a fortnight. Expecting to hear he'd dropped the price to secure the sale, he's just confirmed it actually went for £15k over asking! Not a huge amount given this was a 3/4 million pound property but still surprised me considering it had been on the market for over a year. In a similar vein my girlfiend was gutted to discover two properties in our village were sold over Christmas without estate agents even being appointed - one of which she would have loved to buy for her mum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, prozac said: Where was your manor when you were younger, Wood Green, Camden, harringay, crouch end? none of them really. was in West London but used to go to camden a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, Locke said: If there were no benefits, no one could abuse them. when is a person deemed homeless though ? what if you were sofa surfing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone59 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 hours ago, nome said: Fair enough the specific area of climate change is debatable, but I don't see how people highlighting the destruction of entire ecosystems and rightly deriding the fantasy of eternal economic growth can make you angry to the point of obnoxiousness. Fatigue basically. If they and others were just deriding ecodestruction and the fantasy of perpetual growth I'd be right behind them, subject only to the proviso that I don't get hours of it every day. Climates have changed before, allegedly. Human activity, while most likely making things a lot worse is, I suspect, only part of that process. The vilification of those who have raised doubts about the science - and not even denyers - makes me intensely suspicious that someone is going to make a lot of money and doesn't want reasonable debate getting in their way. The sight of Corbyn's brother mounting a lone demonstration and saying it's all lies right in front of ER's vigorous protest was in a way comical and for me also slightly heartening. It wouldn't be the first time the lone voice in the wilderness was proved correct over the majority. Fear is a useful tool for extracting taxes and subjugating people and I think Piers himself has made that point. Taking weeks to cross the Atlantic in an electric boat isn't going to save the planet anytime soon. And so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simvastatin Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, longgone said: none of them really. was in West London but used to go to camden a lot. So how far are you from home ownership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, prozac said: So how far are you from home ownership? never probably. depends what you are willing to accept not what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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