UK population expected to pass 70 million by 2031

[simvastatin]

6 hours ago, PeanutButter said:

Yeah go ahead and cite your references on that assertion  

Nah babez, they don’t want multiculturalism lol, they want workers.

Believe it it or not but people don’t wake up in their nice litter-free neighbourhoods, where their children can walk to school without being abducted and suddenly think - you know what would make this waaay better is if people who don’t speak Japanese come over and create a ghetto while trashing the place and increasing crime.

 

https://thediplomat.com/2019/10/how-public-discourse-keeps-the-domestic-and-the-foreign-separate-in-japan/

 

 

 

The Japanese want to bring in 345,000 soon they will want to bring in many milions.

The Japanese media has been told by the Japanese kōanchōsa-chō to show immigrants as murderers and rapist to stop japanese women going out with them. (remind you of any country)

 

another question for you, why have the japanese stopped having children...

Perhaps this is part of the reason.....

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-09-extreme-inbreeding-uk-health-impacts.html

Study shows rate of extreme inbreeding in the U.K. and possible health impacts of it 

 

A team of researchers has found a way to gauge the rate of extreme inbreeding (EI) in the U.K. and its possible health repercussions. In their paper published in the journal Nature Communications, the group describes their study of data from the U.K. Biobank and what they found. 

[iamnumerate]

2 hours ago, Sausage said:

We'll cope. We always do.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/10/25/the-long-history-of-eco-pessimism/

Cope is not the same as maintaining our living standards, lots of species have gone instinct in the last 200 years.  So it is not all scare mongering.

[zugzwang]

5 hours ago, Sausage said:

We'll cope. We always do.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/10/25/the-long-history-of-eco-pessimism/

Running away from the threat is certainly a coping mechanism, of a sort.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-25/northern-california-prepares-for-epic-winds-epic-blackouts

Quote

California enters uncharted territory: Massive blackouts, historically dangerous winds

By Phil Willon , 

Joe Mozingo, Rong-Gong Lin II, Maura Dolan

Oct. 25, 2019

5:51 PM

Northern California braced for a weekend in uncharted territory as Pacific Gas & Electric Co. prepared to shut off power to more than 2 million people amid forecasts for one of the worst periods of fire weather in a generation.

It’s a perilous combination that left many anxiously planning for blackouts and the potential for more destructive wildfires, fueled by 36 hours of intense winds. Some fear they will have to confront fires without power, an experience those who fled this week’s Sonoma County fire described as terrifying.

The Diablo winds are expected to pick up Saturday evening and last until Monday morning, longer than the windstorms that fueled the three most catastrophic fires in California history.

“This is definitely an event that we’re calling historic and extreme,” said David King, meteorologist for the National Weather Service’s Monterey office, which manages forecasts for the Bay Area. “What’s making this event really substantial and historic is the amount of time that these winds are going to remain.”

Residents are scrambling to prepare.

Dr. Jeff Klingman, whose daughter is getting married in the Berkeley hills Saturday, plans to haul a generator to the wedding venue in case the power goes out. Klingman said the venue does not allow real candles, so he plans to bring flashlights and possibly battery-operated candles.

“The uncertainty is crazy,” he said. “You just don’t know.”

Klingman purchased the generator on Amazon for $750 — not for the wedding, but for his job.

As chair of neurology for Kaiser Permanente, Klingman is in charge of evaluating emergency stroke patients at 21 Northern California hospitals. He uses a computerized system that provides high-quality video and sound. The generator was purchased to keep his computers at home running when he is on call to evaluate stroke patients, but on Friday he decided he would toss the machine into his van and take it to his daughter’s wedding.

“You don’t expect power to go out,” Klingman said. “But welcome to the Third World country that is America.”

 

 

[MarkG]

Ah, third-world California. It just reinforces the old saying: vote for socialists, become Venezuela.

BTW, there's a rumor that there's a highly-infectious and not very nice disease spreading throughout the 'homeless' population there. Vote socialists, get third-world disease epidemics.

Edited October 28, 2019 by MarkG

[macca13]

On ‎22‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 09:44, iamnumerate said:

That sounds to me like you are saying immigration is a bad thing.

Type in bombings in Sweden.. Over 100 this year.. up from "0" bombings before immigration..

increase in murder and rape as well..

But our media say absolutely nothing?

In fact it will be illegal to criticize immigration under a new law being introduced in Europe, papers can be shut down for saying anything bad about it.. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/bomb-attacks-are-now-a-normal-part-of-swedish-life/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=illegal+to+criticize+immigration&&view=detail&mid=D9D56906DD3C442FB88CD9D56906DD3C442FB88C&&FORM=VRDGAR

[iamnumerate]

7 hours ago, macca13 said:

Type in bombings in Sweden.. Over 100 this year.. up from "0" bombings before immigration..

increase in murder and rape as well..

But our media say absolutely nothing?

In fact it will be illegal to criticize immigration under a new law being introduced in Europe, papers can be shut down for saying anything bad about it.. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/bomb-attacks-are-now-a-normal-part-of-swedish-life/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=illegal+to+criticize+immigration&&view=detail&mid=D9D56906DD3C442FB88CD9D56906DD3C442FB88C&&FORM=VRDGAR

Thanks for that I do think that immigration has negative things.  I am trying to find any disadvantages to not having immigration - still not found any.

[Riedquat]

2 hours ago, iamnumerate said:

Thanks for that I do think that immigration has negative things.  I am trying to find any disadvantages to not having immigration - still not found any.

If you've got a rapidly declining population it may be necessary but no-one's in that position (other than in some very localised areas, e.g. maybe the odd small Scottish island). Other than that a small level can add a bit of interesting variety without having any real effect on the overall population level and hence without creating any additional burdens - if people have to integrate they'll still bring bits of their origins with them, enriching where they move to, but without creating overall fundamental change - an enrichment of what's already there rather than an alteration of it.

[kzb]

Looking at the population projections on that populationpyramid  site, I am struck by how many countries, particularly in Europe, are facing population collapse.

The situation in East European countries looks particularly dire.  However, Germany  (already past peak population), Italy, Portugal all set for major declines.  Even Spain is going to decline.  Only UK, France, Sweden and Denmark out of major EU nations predicted to carry on increasing.

https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-kingdom/2019/

[Odakyu-sen]

Japan is well aware that if it lets foreign workers settle and form enclaves, it will no longer be Japan. Would you be so short-sighted to do that to your own country? 

[PeanutButter]

On 28/10/2019 at 04:01, macca13 said:

Type in bombings in Sweden.. Over 100 this year.. up from "0" bombings before immigration..

increase in murder and rape as well..

But our media say absolutely nothing?

In fact it will be illegal to criticize immigration under a new law being introduced in Europe, papers can be shut down for saying anything bad about it.. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/bomb-attacks-are-now-a-normal-part-of-swedish-life/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=illegal+to+criticize+immigration&&view=detail&mid=D9D56906DD3C442FB88CD9D56906DD3C442FB88C&&FORM=VRDGAR

Insane. 

 

[simvastatin]

10 hours ago, Odakyu-sen said:

Japan is well aware that if it lets foreign workers settle and form enclaves, it will no longer be Japan. Would you be so short-sighted to do that to your own country? 

Japan needs the world, more than the world needs Japan 

have you never wondered why everyone thinks the Chinese are normal, but the Japanese a bit kookie 

You need to learn from the UK, no manufacturing no resources but an incredible high standard of living, don’t forget the white people on this site saying that immigration is bad are being paid by the secret service, to keep all the best immigrants in the west 

 

Edited October 31, 2019 by prozac

[Riedquat]

9 minutes ago, prozac said:

Japan needs the world, more than the world needs Japan 

have you never wondered why everyone thinks the Chinese are normal, but the Japanese a bit kookie

Because the Japanese have managed to avoid having the culture swayed by everyone else as much as the rest of the world?

[PeanutButter]

28 minutes ago, prozac said:

Japan needs the world, more than the world needs Japan 

have you never wondered why everyone thinks the Chinese are normal, but the Japanese a bit kookie 

You need to learn from the UK, no manufacturing no resources but an incredible high standard of living, don’t forget the white people on this site saying that immigration is bad are being paid by the secret service, to keep all the best immigrants in the west 

 

Is this...trolling? I honestly can’t tell

 

 

[longgone]

32 minutes ago, prozac said:

Japan needs the world, more than the world needs Japan 

have you never wondered why everyone thinks the Chinese are normal, but the Japanese a bit kookie 

You need to learn from the UK, no manufacturing no resources but an incredible high standard of living, don’t forget the white people on this site saying that immigration is bad are being paid by the secret service, to keep all the best immigrants in the west 

 

back in the 80`s buying electronics that said "made in japan" was the byword for quality.  china was always the Christmas cracker stuff. 

how times have changed

[simvastatin]

37 minutes ago, PeanutButter said:

Is this...trolling? I honestly can’t tell

 

 

It’s called a different point of view, from someone older and wiser

Edited October 31, 2019 by prozac

[iamnumerate]

12 hours ago, Odakyu-sen said:

Japan is well aware that if it lets foreign workers settle and form enclaves, it will no longer be Japan. Would you be so short-sighted to do that to your own country? 

+1

[PeanutButter]

5 hours ago, prozac said:

It’s called a different point of view, from someone older and wiser

ok boomer ;D 

[simvastatin]

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-global-fertility-crash/

 

As birthrates fall, countries will be forced to adapt or fall behind.

By Andre Tartar, Hannah Recht, and Yue Qiu

 

•  
•  
•  
•  

At least two children per woman—that’s what’s needed to ensure a stable population from generation to generation.  In the 1960s, the fertility rate was five live births per woman. By 2017 it had fallen to 2.43, close to that critical threshold.

Population growth is vital for the world economy. It means more workers to build homes and produce goods, more consumers to buy things and spark innovation, and more citizens to pay taxes and attract trade. While the world is expected to add more than 3 billion people by 2100, according to the United Nations, that’ll likely be the high point. Falling fertility rates and aging populations will mean serious challenges that will be felt more acutely in some places than others.

While the global average fertility rate was still above the rate of replacement—technically 2.1 children per woman—in 2017, about half of all countries had already fallen below it, up from 1 in 20 just half a century ago. For places such as the U.S. and parts of Western Europe, which historically are attractive to migrants, loosening immigration policies could make up for low birthrates. In other places, more drastic policy interventions may be called for. Most of the available options place a high burden on women, who’ll be relied upon not only to bear children but also to help fill widening gaps in the workforce. 

[Riedquat]

Jesus, some people really haven't a clue, have they? You have to be a special brand of ignorant brainless short-termist idiot to try to encourage further population growth.

 

[iamnumerate]

2 hours ago, Riedquat said:

Jesus, some people really haven't a clue, have they? You have to be a special brand of ignorant brainless short-termist idiot to try to encourage further population growth.

 

+1

You also have to think that humans do not cause any harm on the environment and there is no problem with more of us.

[simvastatin]

3 hours ago, Riedquat said:

Jesus, some people really haven't a clue, have they? You have to be a special brand of ignorant brainless short-termist idiot to try to encourage further population growth.

 

You are a traitor to the human race, an enemy of progress, a defeatist, soon we will spread into space, god created us to to fill the emptiness.

 

 

And people like you.....

 

I teach you the Superman. Man is something that is to be overcome.  What have you done to overcome man?  All creatures have hitherto created something beyond themselves: do you wish to be the ebb of that great tide, to return to the animals rather than overcome man?  What is the ape to man?  A laughing stock or a painful embarrassment.  And just the same shall man be to the Superman: a laughing stock or a painful embarrassment.  You have made your way from the worm to man and much within you is still worm.  Once were you apes and even now man is more of an ape than any of the apes. 

[PeanutButter]

Oh “god” yeah? That’s half the trouble with death cultists, you point out we’re killing the planet and they get excited for end times and jeebus flying down from the clouds to hand out all the halos.

As for the concept that it’s OK to screw up life on earth because we can zoom off into space - it’s such a patently stupid idea of course all the billionaires endorse it. Gotta keep the lemmings breeding.

[scottbeard]

The reason we have a balanced eco-system in nature is because all the different species have found an equilibrium in which they can all survive.  If for some reason you end up with double the number of foxes or half the number of rabbits simple survival of the fittest soon brings you back to balance. 

Most reasonable people would I think believe that the Earth now has give or take a few billion about as many people as it can sustain in a long term equilibrium.  The only question is whether humans CHOOSE by their conscious or unconscious behaviour to limit their own population, or leave survival of the fittest to do it for them.

I'd see the falling birth rates of the West as fantastically good news - i.e. that it sounds like humans are CHOOSING to limit population growth, rather than driving us headlong into a wall of war and starvation.

 

[onlooker]

1 hour ago, scottbeard said:

I'd see the falling birth rates of the West as fantastically good news - i.e. that it sounds like humans are CHOOSING to limit population growth, rather than driving us headlong into a wall of war and starvation.

 

Indigenous Europeans may be choosing to limit their population, but their Govts are allowing, in effect, unlimited immigration from those areas of Africa, Asia and South America where the people have chosen not to limit their populations. What do we do then?

[Riedquat]

1 hour ago, scottbeard said:

I'd see the falling birth rates of the West as fantastically good news - i.e. that it sounds like humans are CHOOSING to limit population growth, rather than driving us headlong into a wall of war and starvation.

The only reason it could be seen as bad is because we're caught in a bit of a population arms race. Be sensible, level off your population growth, even start declining it gently (thus giving a view of an ever-brighter future, which sure as hell doesn't exist now) and in the short term you'll get tramped by the less responsible who just keep careering off.

Also remember that most of the rest of the world has much lower population densities than the UK and already the world as a whole is overpopulated, especially if you think a higher standard of living should be available to most of it (which it should be). Even if you took onboard everything the most extreme greeny nutcase wants I seriously doubt standard of living half as good as the West has could be universal.