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Twinned with the “Inconsequential things....” thread, this thread is to discuss any aspect of the modern workplace.

My first offering is colleagues who “work through lunch” and then go for their lunch. In other words they have two lunch breaks. I don’t mind this every once in a while but on a daily basis it is a piss take.

Over to you.

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A bunch of different "portals" to do anything, no two of which function in the same way, that leave you still having to phone someone up anyway only it goes through to some centralised call centre that leaves you on hold for ages. Presumably so much better than the old system of nipping to the office next door and asking someone - that must be crap because it isn't (a) high tech, and (b) requires the horrendous experience of talking face to face with another human being, something that must be stamped out of existence!

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Never forget....how we laughed, the manager that emailed staff when sitting next to them......would never sit in the staff room, preferred to eat their lunch in the car.....didn't take long before they realised, with some help from ourselves that they were in the wrong job.😉

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We’re giving you more work to do, but overtime is now banned due to brexit.../ you earn too much. 

Then we’ll ask / chase you as to why are you behind/ struggling / have so many queries pending?  But not help you to resolve / get the work done.

Then they wonder why staff turnover is so high... 

Bunch of numpties running a circus ! 

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On 08/09/2019 at 11:27, Crashley Banjo said:

We’re giving you more work to do, but overtime is now banned due to brexit.../ you earn too much. 

Then we’ll ask / chase you as to why are you behind/ struggling / have so many queries pending?  But not help you to resolve / get the work done.

Then they wonder why staff turnover is so high... 

Bunch of numpties running a circus ! 

Unfortunately, I think that is almost every company in the UK now.  They are only interested in the bottom line with a very short term view. Forget strategic thinking.

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On 30/08/2019 at 18:32, winkie said:

Never forget....how we laughed, the manager that emailed staff when sitting next to them......

This can be perfectly sensible if the content of the message is such that a written record is worth having (e.g. a detailed request involving multiple stages or something that people may need to refer back to weeks or months later). It also means that people can read the message at their own convenience rather than take time out of their day whenever it is convenient for the manager to pass it on.

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3 hours ago, Dorkins said:

This can be perfectly sensible if the content of the message is such that a written record is worth having (e.g. a detailed request involving multiple stages or something that people may need to refer back to weeks or months later). It also means that people can read the message at their own convenience rather than take time out of their day whenever it is convenient for the manager to pass it on.

Fair enough.....early days of email.......what about those that only log in every couple of days, don't have a smart phone and where the service is very unstable or hit and miss......pass a mobile mast and three messages come in together sent 24 hours ago, old news.....good to talk. ;)

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On 09/09/2019 at 18:02, Ghostly said:

Unfortunately, I think that is almost every company in the UK now.  They are only interested in the bottom line with a very short term view. Forget strategic thinking.

Shareholder value as the Priority No. 1 (at the expense of employees, products and services), fixed in relatively limited cycles of times, is why they're extracted lots of wealth out of companies in recent decades but now said companies are now all shuffling to a possible final, total collapse in our lifetimes.

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10 hours ago, Big Orange said:

Shareholder value as the Priority No. 1 (at the expense of employees, products and services), fixed in relatively limited cycles of times, is why they're extracted lots of wealth out of companies in recent decades but now said companies are now all shuffling to a possible final, total collapse in our lifetimes.

That's the end result of short termism. But to be fair (and playing devil's advocate a little) if some companies start doing that then everyone else has to or go bust in the short term as they can't compete. Some cut costs and give it all to shareholders (or the guys at the top), they get more business even if the product is crap and the shareholder money goes to them too. Classic race to the bottom vicious circle stuff.

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14 minutes ago, Riedquat said:

That's the end result of short termism. But to be fair (and playing devil's advocate a little) if some companies start doing that then everyone else has to or go bust in the short term as they can't compete. Some cut costs and give it all to shareholders (or the guys at the top), they get more business even if the product is crap and the shareholder money goes to them too. Classic race to the bottom vicious circle stuff.

I hear rumors General Electric are buggered like Enron was two decades ago.

It's infected the video game publishing industry as well (see EA and Bethesda) but nerds are notoriously vocal and fickle, and product/service reputation gets ignored by late middle aged executives and shareholders at their own peril.

It's a terminal affliction in Britain and America, "mature" developed economies, where when companies grow to their largest extent, lawyers and accountants (or executives think like them) then dictate strategy, and big corporations get slowly driven off a cliff....

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5 hours ago, Big Orange said:

It's infected the video game publishing industry as well (see EA and Bethesda) but nerds are notoriously vocal and fickle, and product/service reputation gets ignored by late middle aged executives and shareholders at their own peril.

EA have had a terrible reputation for years but still manage to carry on. Bethesda's descent is rather more recent, still needs a bit more time to see how that one will shake out (probably why they're vague on the next ES game because maybe they've got at least a little bit of self-awareness to be worried about the effect of carrying on the trend with that one yet still unable to stop it).

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On 11/09/2019 at 16:37, Riedquat said:

EA have had a terrible reputation for years but still manage to carry on. 

EA is making the big bucks despite their decade or so of bad anti-employee and anti-consumer practices through a mixture of inertia from their 90s/00s glory eras, IP licensing, market share, and publishing games not so long ago that were good enough (like Battlefield 1, etc), even if it's publishing big duds right now.

Konami steered away from big risky IP projects (like MGS V, where Hideo got too big for his britches) with their profits concentrated on arcades and mobile gaming. 

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Video gaming will have a 2nd crash (likely not as bad as the first one, because tech giants are entrenched - no comparatively small 1970s firms like Atari - and the games themselves infinitely more complex and widespread; now growing into worlds in themselves).

I notice the younger Gen X-ers and older Millennials are right career masochists who in the past 15 years accepted stupid hours and jobs in exchange for diminishing returns. 

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