simvastatin Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, iamnumerate said: No I just want to prove that Islam is peaceful by giving May etc Muslim bodyguards. Your question implies that Islam is violent are you a troll? I am a normal garden gnome slightly different than a trollĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishinWales Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Damp and mould in homes makes people ill. Physically and Mentally. The cause is poor building construction and adaptions - modern 'energy efficient' houses can't breathe....as well as overcrowding. Drying laundry indoors might exacerbate the problem but it's not the cause. And maybe they don't have a choice, do you think these places have large yards where they can all line-dry their clothes?? Probably several of them are cooped together in a block of flats...maybe there's no windows in the bathroom areas and no extraction fans in kitchen areas either. We can't blame the damp on their behaviour. Whatever you think about asylum seekers' legitimacy, housing them in buildings that are going to make them ill is counterproductive. What can we do with thousands of sick foreigners? The landlords who own these buildings should be forced to make them habitable, councils included. That won't cost the rest of us anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 hours ago, EnglishinWales said: Damp and mould in homes makes people ill. Physically and Mentally. The cause is poor building construction and adaptions - modern 'energy efficient' houses can't breathe....as well as overcrowding. Drying laundry indoors might exacerbate the problem but it's not the cause. And maybe they don't have a choice, do you think these places have large yards where they can all line-dry their clothes?? Probably several of them are cooped together in a block of flats...maybe there's no windows in the bathroom areas and no extraction fans in kitchen areas either. We can't blame the damp on their behaviour. Whatever you think about asylum seekers' legitimacy, housing them in buildings that are going to make them ill is counterproductive. What can we do with thousands of sick foreigners? The landlords who own these buildings should be forced to make them habitable, councils included. That won't cost the rest of us anything. Well .... putting aside T Dan SMiths jerry built tower blocks aside. Can you not see the problem of bringin people in from warmer climes toĀ a relative cold and damp country. WHo'll then not open a window or put their washing outside? Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyguy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 On 21/11/2018 at 12:33, Wayward said: Many of these 'asylum seekers' come over from France.Ā What terror are they fleeing from in France I wonder? Socialism Ā On 21/11/2018 at 11:43, Errol said: There shouldn't be any state run housing for asylum seekers. They should be held in camps under guard close to their point of entry until a decision can be made.Ā ļ»æ Only the most basic of provision should be made for them in the camps. After all, they are fleeing death etc so should presumably be glad for anything.Ā agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyguy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 On 22/11/2018 at 07:28, spyguy said: No benefits to non UK citizens. - Set minimum wage for wage permit to 40k. - Charge kids and spouse for NHS and schooling. I pretty sure those 3 easy changes will get rid of 90% of UK homelessness. AgreedĀ On 22/11/2018 at 08:08, localhero1983 said: working couple should NEVER be in worse housing than non working people, whether it's their fault or not, but too often that's the case. Agreed this is loogic 17 hours ago, iamnumerate said: The best way to get people to not being scared of Islam is for all politicians to have Muslim bodyguards, it would make everyone realize how safe Islam is.Ā Those who hate Islam would love it because they would expect Muslims to show violent they are, those who love Islam would love it because they would expect Muslims to show reliable they are.Ā Ā 15 hours ago, iamnumerate said: Your question implies that Islam is violent are you a troll? Read the so called holy quran it states in 147 different places that a muslim has a duty to kill non muslims a muslim girl can only marry a muslim - that is their idea of integration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyguy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 9 hours ago, EnglishinWales said: Damp and mould in homes makes people ill. Physically and Mentally. ļ»æThe cause is poor building construction and adaptions - modern 'energy efficient' houses can't breaļ»æthe....as well as overcrowdinļ»æg. If they are going to get ill they should not come here and if I had 8 kids my house would be overcrowded Ā 9 hours ago, EnglishinWales said: We can't blame the damp on their behaviour. no blame their culture or religion and lack of respect for the society that they live in Ā 9 hours ago, EnglishinWales said: Whatever you think about asylum seekers' legitimacy, housing them in buildings that are going to make them ill is counterproductive. What can we do with thousands of sick foreigners? The landlords wļ»æho own these buildings should be forced to make them habitable, councils included. That won't cost the rest of us anythļ»æingļ»æļ»æļ»æļ»æļ»æļ»æ.ļ»æ if the council are responsible it will cost us all moneyĀ if they want better housing they can get a job and pay for it the same as I DOĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 On 21/11/2018 at 17:21, macca13 said: We canāt save the world by moving itās population to Europe, all we have achieved is to drag Europe back to the dark ages..Ā The problems must be fixed at source..Ā THIS ^^ Anyone pro-unlimited immigration is also naturally pro-climate change acceleration. Taking huge numbers people from low-carbon production populations and promoting them into dirty Western carbon producers cannot be offset in any manner.Ā The Venn diagram of 'borders are mean!'Ā yuppies + people who run around yelling about driving electric cars would just be a circle. I'm a greenie, but transporting everyone in bad places to good places is not a solution of any kind.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribble Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 10 hours ago, EnglishinWales said: Damp and mould in homes makes people ill. Physically and Mentally. The cause is poor building construction and adaptions - modern 'energy efficient' houses can't breathe....as well as overcrowding. Drying laundry indoors might exacerbate the problem but it's not the cause. And maybe they don't have a choice, do you think these places have large yards where they can all line-dry their clothes?? Probably several of them are cooped together in a block of flats...maybe there's no windows in the bathroom areas and no extraction fans in kitchen areas either. We can't blame the damp on their behaviour. Whatever you think about asylum seekers' legitimacy, housing them in buildings that are going to make them ill is counterproductive. What can we do with thousands of sick foreigners? The landlords who own these buildings should be forced to make them habitable, councils included. That won't cost the rest of us anything. On the contrary. Word might get back to their homelands that they will not get everything for free. Feeding and housing them will just make the feckless parasites breed more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simvastatin Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, happyguy said: AgreedĀ Agreed this is loogic Ā Read the so called holy quran it states in 147 different places that a muslim has a duty to kill non muslims a muslim girl can only marry a muslim - that is their idea of integration You can say what you like since no one here has read the Quran we cannot disagree with you bit I think you are a liarĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, prozac said: You can say what you like since no one here has read the Quran we cannot disagree with you bit I think you are a liarĀ Who cares if he is lying or not.Ā We should get politicians to do the bodyguard test and find out who is right, those who think Islam is peaceful and those who don't.Ā Either way we will KNOW the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simvastatin Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, iamnumerate said: Who cares if he is lying or not.Ā We should get politicians to do the bodyguard test and find out who is right, those who think Islam is peaceful and those who don't.Ā Either way we will KNOW the truth. Ok tessa88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, prozac said: Ok tessa88 Strange answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 hours ago, happyguy said: that is their idea of integration does infecting peopleĀ with e-coli count as integration ? Ā https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3537652/Swindon-takeaway-chef-prepared-food-wiping-bottom-bare-hands-doesn-t-use-toilet-paper-cultural-reasons.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexton Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 hours ago, happyguy said: 13 hours ago, EnglishinWales said: We can't blame the damp on their behaviour. Ā We can. I remember seeing a block of flats where one of them had water streaming down the inside of the windows. They were probably complaining about the damp while others in the block had simply opened their windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simvastatin Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, sexton said: We can. I remember seeing a block of flats where one of them had water streaming down the inside of the windows. They were probably complaining about the damp while others in the block had simply opened their windows. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone59 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Gribble said: On the contrary. Word might get back to their homelands that they will not get everything for free. Feeding and housing them will just make the feckless parasites breed more The heading of this article implies either that the problem is prevalent in housing supplied to Asylum Seekers and not much of a problem elsewhere, OR that the incidence of these conditions is only of concern if impacting on Asylum Seekers and of less concern otherwise. Failure to process Asylum Seekers has been hopelessly under resourced which will have increased the numbers being housed. This is all deliberate, the objective being to expand the population by any means and thereby GDP so as to comply with current economic theory and to meet the needs of businesses for ever more punters. That last bit is currently working out well LOL, there seem to be as many struggling firms as ever. Housing which is free of damp and vermin should be available to everyone here without fail and any private or corporate landlord should be ruthlessly fined or have their property expropriated unless or until they comply. Having once managed a handful of properties, I do accept that a number of occupiers exacerbate condensation through negligence and lack of knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lombardo Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) On 21/11/2018 at 10:28, spyguy said: Anyhow, assuming hat a country's citizens do require asylum then the UK should freeeze all that countries assets i nthe UK and issue arrrest arants for the countries leaders. Ā And support terrorists that have been trying to overthrow Assad? It's our meddling which lead to the problems in Syria, Lybia, Iraq etc. This mass immigration is causing problems but we shouldn't make it worse by removing bad guys by supporting even worse people. Edited November 23, 2018 by lombardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca13 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 14 hours ago, happyguy said: a muslim girl can only marry a muslim - that is their idea of integration https://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/01/world/saudi-arabia-awakes-to-the-perils-of-inbreeding.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 9 hours ago, lombardo said: And support terrorists that have been trying to overthrow Assad? It's our meddling which lead to the problems in Syria, Lybia, Iraq etc. This mass immigration is causing problems but we shouldn't make it worse by removing bad guys by supporting even worse people. You do realise that Syria is entirely a civil war. Libya - collapse of a dcitator. Irqa - half true. 1st Iraq war valid; 2nd wasnt. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothernsoul Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Gadaffi was a corrupt brutal dictator. However, his regimes collapse was precipitated by western military intervention, including bombing that david cameron cheerleaded in parliament. Not only is the chaos that replaced it worse for ordinary Libyans than gadaffi, but when he went, a route opened up to europe.Ā Syria, like in the yemen, is not entirely a civil war. They are both proxy wars between saudi and iran who offer vital support to opposing sides in each conflict.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 16 hours ago, lombardo said: And support terrorists that have been trying to overthrow Assad? It's our meddling which lead to the problems in Syria, Lybia, Iraq etc. This mass immigration is causing problems but we shouldn't make it worse by removing bad guys by supporting even worse people. I am not sure if that is true there have been civil wars in Islam since the Ridda wars - 2 years after Muhammad died and almost 200 years before the first English King. I think there would be fighting between them if the black death had killed 100% of the European population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridda_wars https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/KingsQueensofBritain/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothernsoul Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 We never had so many people fleeing to europe from the middle east until the neo liberals thought it was a good idea to meddle militarily in places they didnt understand. Did they seriously think western liberal democracy would replace the power vacuumĀ left by the strongmen they toppled?Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simvastatin Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, nothernsoul said: We never had so many people fleeing to europe from the middle east until the neo liberals thought it was a good idea to meddle militarily in places they didnt understand. Did they seriously think western liberal democracy would replace the power vacuumĀ left by the strongmen they toppled?Ā Or the neo liberals want to replace us with people from the third world, who are much easier to control and much easier to steal all the resources from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 7 hours ago, spyguy said: You do realise that Syria is entirely a civil war. Libya - collapse of a dcitator. Irqa - half true. 1st Iraq war valid; 2nd wasnt. Ā The 1st Iraq war? Do you mean the British occupation of 1917, or the RAF bombing campaigns against the Shi'ites and the Kurds (1920-25)? Churchill advocated using poison gas, of course, to bring the ' uncivilized' tribes to heel, having already employed it against the Bolsheviks in Northern Russia with mixed results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lombardo Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, iamnumerate said: I am not sure if that is true there have been civil wars in Islam since the Ridda wars - 2 years after Muhammad died and almost 200 years before the first English King. I think there would be fighting between them if the black death had killed 100% of the European population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridda_wars https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/KingsQueensofBritain/ Yeah there have been civil wars but does that justify supporting the greater evil. Why did we have to support Saddam, Saudis, terrorists etc? Edited November 24, 2018 by lombardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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