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How will history remember Trump? - Poll

How will history remember Donald Trump's presidency?  

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  1. 1. Will history remember President Trump as...

    • A good president.
    • A mediocre president.
    • A bad president.
  2. 2. How many terms will he serve?



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TBH so far he has just continued policies either instigated by obama, e.g. seperation of immigrant kids from families, or many previous presidents have wanted to do, eg pulling up NATO members about their defence spending. I get the point that some of the people offended deserve to be offended. But trump really does not understand international affairs are not like running a business in the states. e.g. imposing tarifs of china, china retaliates in kind and also  (because it not a true free market) tells its importers to buy soya-bean from russia rather than the states. The US population is in for  a big shock in the coming decades, Trump will hasten it.

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After the half term elections he's going to face indictment for a string of criminal actions.. where is the Serves 0 Terms' option?

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11 hours ago, debtlessmanc said:

The US population is in for  a big shock in the coming decades, Trump will hasten it.

Trump doesn't comprehend (because he's as thick as shit) that the US Dollar Hegemony gives it a massive financial advantage that comes with responsibility. The US gets super low interest rates, multiplied buying power (1.3 USD to £ versus $5:£1 in the true world). In return the world sells the USA its goods cheap (for the US) in dollars the US never has to repay (via inflation) and expects the US to use its free money to defend the status quo.

If, however, the US try to make the rest of the world pay for the US Empire, well why bother, they just use another currency (Yen, Euro, Pound or Yuan). Dollar will tank and US will become a regional power exporting cheap oil and grain.

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19 hours ago, Bruce Banner said:

This not a question of whether you like him or loathe him, just a question of how you think he will be remembered in the history books.

Did you post a 2nd question? (there are question 1 and 3)

I read an article about the likelihood of four Trump terms: two for Don, then two for Ivanka. I can't see Ivanka developing the kind of cult following her father had (The Apprentice, Twitter etc.)

There are a lot of hurdles to even a second term. Trump might not even win the Republican primary next time round. The Republican establishment only failed to prevent him winning the primary last time because they didn't spot the danger early enough and weren't able to agree on a candidate to rally around. They won't have that problem again.

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ok I'll bite.

History is going to be subjective. Trump is marmite.

you either love him or you hate him.

trump is either:

a) the guy that got rid of a load of spongers and neer do wells and useless beaurocrats and rules and regulations

b)the guy that screwed american hegemony by beating the above state sponsors of "progressivism" ,and mad mullahs with a bloody big stick..beating them absolutely hollow, but doing so in a way that causes international outrage.Actually uncle sam saves europe(again), but gets bugg3r all thanks(again)...but no more bailouts or freeloading.Uncle sam has had it with the EU.

TBH if your favoured style of government is state micromanagement,this guy is( almost) your worst nightmare!

However, messiah he is not!There is someone else in the US that has got a very careful eye on the swamp and the deep state, and that includes some of trumps appointees.He's not completely blameless.

 

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On 15/07/2018 at 08:48, Peter Hun said:

After the half term elections he's going to face indictment for a string of criminal actions.. where is the Serves 0 Terms' option?

TBH I think clinton is going to on the hook for that....and soros!

maybe the good guys in the FBI have got the source code on the voting machines(of which soros has significant shares in the company).

This one sticks, it's sedition at the very least(treason if he's a US citizen)...either way it's a death sentence.Putin has a contract out on him as well......silly boy sticking his nose into politics.

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9 minutes ago, oracle said:

trump is either:

a) the guy that got rid of a load of spongers and neer do wells and useless beaurocrats and rules and regulations

When did he do that? His administration is full of the usual Goldman Sachs alumni etc. It's just another government for the elite, by the elite.

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I wouldn't be so sure.

Yes, there are quite a lot of "alumni" if you wish to call them such.

What I'm saying is that many of these folks are about to be exposed and removed from office(perhaps forcibly).There are some in the administration that will not play ball with the globalists.

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Once he loses both houses, he's going down. Lying in office, treason and almost certainly money laundering.

He's fluffed..

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To be honest I'm not entirely confident that there will be anybody alive to remember him by the time he's finished.

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So he believes Russian intelligence over his own govts assessment? I think he might be an android made in the KGB research centre.

The US military has just banned the use of Russian software after they found that the kaspersky software was uploading information to Russian servers. A relative has software company that sells software in competition with another Russian outfit (not antiviral) he has just had an order that has doubled his turnover. So good for him but wondering if trump finds out about the ban he might reverse it

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Trump revels in the power of the job....he loves and thrives on attention, to an extent he means well, but does not always do or talk well...he does not respect many people, both men and women....he loves and respects himself, the best thing since sliced bread....there is one other powerful person he does respect, having a challenge to meet his match, for him must be good for he who thinks has achieved the top job. ;)

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On 21/07/2018 at 10:13, Bruce Banner said:

Now that's interesting, after a week the results stand at 46.43% good, 46.43% bad and 17.14% mediocre.

A dozen or so loonies and there you go.. 

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On 21/07/2018 at 10:13, Bruce Banner said:

Now that's interesting, after a week the results stand at 46.43% good, 46.43% bad and 17.14% mediocre.

You've got to wonder what the 46.43% think he has done that is good?

Unfortunately the US is as divided (irreparably?) on Trump as the UK is on Brexit. You can almost drown in the antipathy between the two sides! The Yanks got guns though, so no drowning required!

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33 minutes ago, AThirdWay said:

You've got to wonder what the 46.43% think he has done that is good?

Unfortunately the US is as divided (irreparably?) on Trump as the UK is on Brexit. You can almost drown in the antipathy between the two sides, but the Yanks got guns!

Ah, but that wasn't the question. It's not what he has done that is good, but what you think he may have done by the time he retires. How will history remember him?

History will not remember the Playboy models and tweets. History will remember the big things. Whether he started WW3, averted WW3, trashed the economy or otherwise.

 

 

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On 23/07/2018 at 15:13, Bruce Banner said:

Ah, but that wasn't the question. It's not what he has done that is good, but what you think he may have done by the time he retires. How will history remember him?

History will not remember the Playboy models and tweets. History will remember the big things. Whether he started WW3, averted WW3, trashed the economy or otherwise.

 

 

I'm not so sure.

When he left office Bill Clinton's approval rating was almost double what it was when he first 'entered' the Oval office. He presided over the greatest jobs growth seen of any president from the 80's on, reduced the tax burden on small businesses, took the budget from deficit into surplus and massively reduced the welfare bill.... quite a feat.  What is uppermost in your mind when you think of his 8 years?

Of course there some events that are so enormous that it overshadows the shortcomings of a POTUS, 9/11 and Iraq being prime examples. Without those events, GWB would be remembered as the chuckling idiot that he was, a shadow of his father.

Hopefully we won't see one of those over the next couple of years, at which time Trump will either be a court jester, fit only for comedy tv interviews, or another Tricky Dicky type villain to be wheeled out by the Democrats at every election for the next 8 years.

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41 minutes ago, AThirdWay said:

I'm not so sure.

When he left office Bill Clinton's approval rating was almost double what it was when he first 'entered' the Oval office. He presided over the greatest jobs growth seen of any president from the 80's on, reduced the tax burden on small businesses, took the budget from deficit into surplus and massively reduced the welfare bill.... quite a feat.  What is uppermost in your mind when you think of his 8 years?

Of course there some events that are so enormous that it overshadows the shortcomings of a POTUS, 9/11 and Iraq being prime examples. Without those events, GWB would be remembered as the chuckling idiot that he was, a shadow of his father.

Hopefully we won't see one of those over the next couple of years, at which time Trump will either be a court jester, fit only for comedy tv interviews, or another Tricky Dicky type villain to be wheeled out by the Democrats at every election for the next 8 years.

Or thirdly - he may be looked back upon as someone who actually did some decent things and wasn't half as bad in Office as all the scare stories made him out to be.....:rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, ccc said:

Or thirdly - he may be looked back upon as someone who actually did some decent things and wasn't half as bad in Office as all the scare stories made him out to be.....:rolleyes:

I refer you to the first sentence of my first post....

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8 hours ago, ccc said:

Or thirdly - he may be looked back upon as someone who actually did some decent things and wasn't half as bad in Office as all the scare stories made him out to be.....:rolleyes:

only by sensible people.

Even on this forum there are posters quite prepared to label President Trump as 'Thick' without any explanation why, just their opinion because it suits their politics.

The left hate President Trump because their girl Hillary lost.

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39 minutes ago, Byron said:

only by sensible people.

Even on this forum there are posters quite prepared to label President Trump as 'Thick' without any explanation why, just their opinion because it suits their politics.

The left hate President Trump because their girl Hillary lost.

Simple question. 

What's Trump done in his time that's so bad compared to Obama ?

Answers on a postcard.....

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12 hours ago, Byron said:

The left hate President Trump because their girl Hillary lost.

Why should anyone outside the USA give a flying F who lost the US presidency? I hate Trump because he is a useless moron  who will damage the USA and the West.

History will remember the POS for his impeachment and jail time.

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