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.....what we have is two party politics, both will say anything that they think people will want to hear to get into power, very little between them, they act like managers of the country not leaders.....perhaps it is the system that is at fault......very hard for any outsider to get in however good they may be.?

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9 hours ago, Locke said:

I don't vote, as democracy is simply rule-by-mob, but I will probably vote and campaign for UKIP, should there be a snap election, just for the salty, salty tears it will produce.

You probably ought to vote as a measure of self-defence, in order to try to minimise the harm the mob does to you.

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The obvious flaw with the current political system is it leans towards tyranny of the majority...this is the cause of our woes. Google it...John Major spoke on the issue a while back. It is tyranny of the majority that gives us policies promoting HPI and ever growing national debt and environmental degradation...and so on...

This is built into the system regardless how you vote..we have no enlightened and principled politicians to stand up against the short term majority interest (as they see it)...the young and unborn are  the most disgracefully treated...on historic proportions.

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18 hours ago, inbruges said:

My take on society is simple and closer to the natural selection theory,  those that work hard in a law abiding way where they also feed decent communities live in the best housing, those that are lazy, idle  and play the victim live in the s***est housing. Those that are genuinely disadvantaged are helped and not rewarded.

I honestly do not believe the lefties you see on the Labour side do any of the welfare dependants any favours, they destroy their souls in my opinion by backing up their  feelings of weakness up, it's even cruel. 

I'd recommend this podcast (https://www.reknr.com/latest/5-a-job-guarantee-jg-vs-a-universal-basic-income-ubi/) that goes into a little about your first paragraph, well in a roundabout way. There is a brief mention about how current policy around disability is actually more to remove "disabled" from working society as it they were too difficult to integrate into the workforce and by giving them a token payment society can abdicate their responsibility to all.

There's a destructive trend in the hard centre (Blair/Brown and their follow ons, Cameron and the Liberal Tories, the Lib Dems etc.) who have a patrician, paternalistic view of Liberalism (full disclosure, I'm not a Liberal) that seeks to entrench negative liberty, ignore positive liberty and assumes that anyone can have their success merely with hard work, i.e. ignoring their own personal circumstances. So when you say the lefties on the Labour side I think you're referring to those people. Corbyn isn't like that even though he isn't radical. I back him because he will promote greater democratisation and a return to more honest, less opaque politics. Certainly it won't be a sea change and there are forces that will try to stop him, even if he wins. Hell they may well succeed. Little reason not to try though, there aren't any other options.

On housing, it's a subset of understanding money to me. I'm frustrated that Labour hasn't taken on a proper view of Modern Money, seemingly because they're scared of a Magic Money Tree backlash from the Tories, the Austerian Centre and their press cheerleaders. Certainly that would come but there are argumentless to win irrespective. I am frustrated that the new builds being thrown up are awful, more so than the pricing as that can change whilst the quality of the slave box can't.

What I really want to see is Labour's "Fully Costed Manifesto" replaced and enhanced as a "Fully Resourced Manifesto". Show how Modern Money would allow for a large expansion of the public sector to properly staff healthcare, social care, education etc. along with rebuilding and expanding our crumbling infrastructure. Once that's in place the next step is to expand democratic decision making and accountability to the most local level practicable.

Anarcho-communism for the win.

On Brexit, this is a good start https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/04/brexit-labour-party-socialist-left-corbyn

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What I really wish for is an alliance of voting reformers within the parties (even if party HQ resists) to agree an electoral pact labour / lib dem / green in which the other parties step aside to allow a free run for the most likely party to win on a one line manifesto to (a) reform the electoral system to proper PR and a compulsory 'none of the above' candidate on all ballot papers, (b) dissolve parliament for a new election.

If they ran the 2011 referendum again it would give a different result is my feeling.  The two big parties have lost control of the membership.

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On 10/07/2018 at 12:39, Maynardgravy said:

I will never vote again unless a party truly came out with staggeringly progressive policies. The back-tracking Brexit debacle has taught me that valuable lesson once and for all.

There needs to be a mass abstention to cripple the facade we currently have. 

Politicians don't care about abstentions, they just want to win. Constitutionally the system will still work fine even if only 10% of the population exercise their right to vote. Mass abstentions would cripple nothing.

Turnout for the 2012 police and crime commissioner elections was 15.1%, they still declared winners and the candidates took the jobs.

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On 10/07/2018 at 13:03, cashinmattress said:

First part... impossible with the UK's constitutional Monarchy, unless you break the UK up.

That's what I'd do. Like NATO the UK was useful once but no longer needed. Devolved and smaller government would have much more chance of working better.

What difference does it make which political party anyway. Once every five years I get a chance to waste my vote against an ultra-safe seat MP. Guess how much I look forward to that.

In any case I think the traditional left v. right is also obsolete. Me for example I am anti-brexit anti-Tory but pro-Trump and pro Assange and Robinson. Nobody takes a defined position on the political spectrum any more.

tl;dr I would vote directly for Corbyn if I could , which unfortunately in our system would mean voting for Labour which I swore I would never do again after Blair. Emigrating does sound better every day.

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12 hours ago, Dorkins said:

Politicians don't care about abstentions, they just want to win. Constitutionally the system will still work fine even if only 10% of the population exercise their right to vote. Mass abstentions would cripple nothing.

Turnout for the 2012 police and crime commissioner elections was 15.1%, they still declared winners and the candidates took the jobs.

Fine, carry on voting as if it means anything.

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9 hours ago, Maynardgravy said:

Fine, carry on voting as if it means anything.

Voting does mean something. Why are the Conservatives bringing in longer tenancies and banning letting agent fees? Because they want the votes of private tenants.

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