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New slogan is 'deliver the houses the country needs'

So when they fail, I guess it is all to be the builders and land bankers fault then?

 

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12 minutes ago, Oki said:

New slogan is 'deliver the houses the country needs'

So when they fail, I guess it is all to be the builders and land bankers fault then?

 

They have said it 100 times now, you can only take people for c***s so many times. I have 80% true conservatism in my DNA and the rest is for true socialism that wants to protect the TRUE  poor and weak. I have given up on you now and your need to protect those that have it all already, now I am going to make you pay and I am sure there are a lot more like me.

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There was a time when Tory meant, the new money. Entrepreneurial, Socially aware, building Society to make money.  Driving a middle class that would consume more and build upon the idea of 'take the struggle and make it easier for generations to come'.  Cadbury's, Rowntree, Thomas Cook.   These original Tories supported them against the Rentier class.

 

They would spit in the face of the current set of w***ers sitting in Downing street

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1 hour ago, zugzwang said:

Take that, rent forever losers!

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The man whose number 1 priority was to protect inheritance while in office, which meant protecting  the asset value of all those who long for their parents death and to cash in, c**t

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You could see points 1 and 2 as expanding on the "Fix the Broken Housing Market". Couldn't you? Am I missing something?

Namely: 

Housing-Market.jpg

Isn't this just the left-wing version of the Daily Mail making a mountain out of a molehill?

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8 minutes ago, oatbake said:

You could see points 1 and 2 as expanding on the "Fix the Broken Housing Market". Couldn't you? Am I missing something?

Namely: 

Housing-Market.jpg

Isn't this just the left-wing version of the Daily Mail making a mountain out of a molehill?

No. It assumes that the problem is a shortage of houses (it isn’t) and drops any suggestion that the housing market is broken (which it absolutely is). 

Homes don’t need to be delivered, they need to be prised out of the claws of landlords.

Point two in particular says nothing about home ownership. It’s vacuous ********, because they can’t run on a pledge of ‘stealing your money and giving it to building company CEOs’. 

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Just now, BuyToLeech said:

No. It assumes that the problem is a shortage of houses (it isn’t) and drops any suggestion that the housing market is broken (which it absolutely is). 

Homes don’t need to be delivered, they need to be prised out of the claws of landlords.

Point two in particular says nothing about home ownership. It’s vacuous ********, because they can’t run on a pledge of ‘stealing your money and giving it to building company CEOs’. 

Whereas "fixing the broken housing market" is totally clear and not open to any kind of interpretation? I will judge them on their actions, not on the basis of some words vomited onto my screen my a Mirror journalist.). The Tories may, or may not be the ones to get this done (in my view, the next four years are their last chance to win over the younger generation, and it will require an ambitious approach) but this article is meaningless dross.

As for prising homes out of the claws of landlords, Section 24 (brought in by the Tories) seems to be doing a cracking job of initiating brown trouser moments.  

Personally, I cant see Theresa May having the vision/ambition to get house-building going on the scale needed to accomplish these goals, but we'll see. The only thing that could save them is the market imploding under its own weight (actually quite likely).  

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Nice vague slogans to make a few people feel fuzzy before voting. The new one implies they think they can build their way out of this. None of their plans sound like a plausible solution. Tory party still dead in the water.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Parkwell said:

Nice vague slogans to make a few people feel fuzzy before voting. The new one implies they think they can build their way out of this. None of their plans sound like a plausible solution. Tory party still dead in the water.

 

 

Whilst I would love this to be true for the things those c***s have done, I'm not so sure. They did better than Labour in the recent local elections, and according to this link are actually increasing their lead (a sharp turnaround from the second link back in March - no idea why)

Now:

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/politics/opinion-polls/news/95799/tories-take-seven-point-poll-lead-over-labour-after-boost

and back in March:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-election-win-brexit-tories-conservative-latest-poll-corbyn-may-a8251911.html

I know these polls aren't all that reliable, but still. Working Class people think the Tories are a good choice? WTF!?

 

 

 

 

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On 10/06/2018 at 19:16, jonb2 said:

The 2nd pic of Theresa May in the article is ripe for some titles 🤩

 

Mine is

Folks wanting an  affordable house can suck a D!ck 

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Edited by Saving For a Space Ship

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57 minutes ago, dpg50000 said:

Whilst I would love this to be true for the things those c***s have done, I'm not so sure. They did better than Labour in the recent local elections, and according to this link are actually increasing their lead (a sharp turnaround from the second link back in March - no idea why)

Now:

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/politics/opinion-polls/news/95799/tories-take-seven-point-poll-lead-over-labour-after-boost

and back in March:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-election-win-brexit-tories-conservative-latest-poll-corbyn-may-a8251911.html

I know these polls aren't all that reliable, but still. Working Class people think the Tories are a good choice? WTF!?

 

The Tories' manifesto for the last election was absolutely awful. Bringing back Fox-hunting? The dementia tax? 

Plus a lot of Tory voters thought they'd still walk it and probably stayed at home.

I don't think they will make the same mistake next time. I certainly think it is jumping the gun to assume Labour will walk the next one...

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As ever (and both parties guilty) introduce a stoking of demand today with a solution to the supply later, then drop the supply target. The electorate is pretty myopic anyway. 

That said I'm not sure the old pledge of 'fixing the broken housing market' is a SMART objective. This appears to replace that with the solution of delivering the homes we need (whatever that is supposed to mean) which is no more of a SMART objective. Clearly some more well built and sized houses would be fab but imho they also need to look at:

  • Population management (if pop keeps growing we'll need to keep building or take up less space)
  • Credit supply (most people tend to borrow as much as they can and the house generally goes to the person who bids the most ergo reduce multiples steadily and make people aware of this and ban foreign mortgages to prevent circumvention)
  • Property hoarding (landlords, boomers, foreign speculators)

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Maybe it's partially because, after eight odd years in power, they think people might use the old wording as a confession that they are more than a little bit responsible for breaking it in the first place..

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12 hours ago, inbruges said:

They have said it 100 times now, you can only take people for c***s so many times. I have 80% true conservatism in my DNA and the rest is for true socialism that wants to protect the TRUE  poor and weak. I have given up on you now and your need to protect those that have it all already, now I am going to make you pay and I am sure there are a lot more like me.

WTF brought this on?

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“Make the vision of the place you call home a reality”

When can I expect my vision to come true? I don’t expect the Queen to give up Windsor castle easily.

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11 hours ago, msi said:

There was a time when Tory meant, the new money. Entrepreneurial, Socially aware, building Society to make money.  Driving a middle class that would consume more and build upon the idea of 'take the struggle and make it easier for generations to come'.  Cadbury's, Rowntree, Thomas Cook.   These original Tories supported them against the Rentier class.

 

They would spit in the face of the current set of w***ers sitting in Downing street

I saw what you did there.

Very clever.

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