kirstieb Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/could-brexit-benefit-britains-financial-services/ Ok so I've been thinking this for a while and piecing things together from the various media sources. Although I have been looking at the whole picture rather than mindlessly drinking up what I'm told. I do not read the spectator, but it's the best example of my theory of some of the vested interests plans. Isn't it obvious this was bank lobbying for the exit of the EU to escape the tax laws that are being imposed in 2019 and use the opportunity to spread their tentacles further into power? Why isn't anyone seeing this the information is right there. It will be a perfect time for deregulation for them as the UK is fighting to keep London, as well as the fact the government are in bed with them. Here is a paper showing the obvious danger of this happening https://academic.oup.com/oxrep/article-abstract/33/suppl_1/S79/3066085?redirectedFrom=PDF I feel so frustrated at this happening I front of our eyes, I wonder if anyone else has thought this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapori Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 The problem with your theory is that you would have to ignore all the establishment financial institutions literally panicking at the thought of brexit when the vote was being cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-so Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I think that your theory is utter tripe. Not only would it be a major and near implausible conspiracy, but you point the finger at the group with most to lose from Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 brexit/trump is just a natural divergence from european politics as a whole. Our systems of governance are fundamentally different from europe and have been for centuries. in general europe is "big state+ big government" UK and US are as ron reagan put it with regards to the state- "get out of my life and get out of my wallet" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, oracle said: brexit/trump is just a natural divergence from european politics as a whole. Our systems of governance are fundamentally different from europe and have been for centuries. in general europe is "big state+ big government" UK and US are as ron reagan put it with regards to the state- "get out of my life and get out of my wallet" Was that before or after he went on the greatest spending spree in US history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb2 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, zugzwang said: Was that before or after he went on the greatest spending spree in US history? It's the Tories graph as well. As to your theory - I agree 100% https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/09/brexiters-put-money-offshore-tax-haven http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2018/03/01/the-uk-cannot-afford-sir-james-dysons-anti-competitive-aspirations/ https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2016/06/23/secret-billionaires-behind-eu-referendum-propaganda/ https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/paq99k/a-millionaire-who-funded-brexit-made-a-killing-as-carillion-crashed http://truepublica.org.uk/contributor-news/how-brexit-was-engineered-by-foreign-billionaires-to-bring-about-economic-chaos-for-profit/ https://circusbuoy.wordpress.com/2017/07/14/why-tax-avoiding-billionaires-want-britain-outside-the-eu/ http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86556 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 36 minutes ago, zugzwang said: Was that before or after he went on the greatest spending spree in US history? They say that Republicans increase spending - because they face no opposition in the house to it - and Democrats start wars - because they face no opposition in the house to it. The way for Britain to make a success of Brexit is to slash spending, taxes and regulation and become a business and tax haven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirstieb Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Thanks for the reading material, I'll have a look later on. I just know something is has gone on, and the government don't have the intelligence for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Lunatic Asylum Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, kirstieb said: Thanks for the reading material, I'll have a look later on. I just know something is has gone on, and the government don't have the intelligence for it Forgive me Kirstieb, but I think you may have some misconceptions over which tribe runs Britain.?Understandable when the constant tripe we are subjected to is taken into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funn3r Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 hours ago, oracle said: UK and US are as ron reagan put it with regards to the state- "get out of my life and get out of my wallet" Surely you jest. Theresa is determined to insert herself as firmly into my life as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirstieb Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 That is true about Goldman, however they do have a history of betting against themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmarket Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 11 hours ago, kirstieb said: Although I have been looking at the whole picture rather than mindlessly drinking up what I'm told. This level of uninformed conspiracy sh*t is a waste of everyone's time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 A bit too tin foil hatted. Bank regulation is dictated more by Basel rules on banks and the BoE extra rules. As far as Goldman goes, again too tinfoiled hatted - Goldmans are traders not really a retail bank - although tey did get the FED to classify then as one for the TARP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, kirstieb said: That is true about Goldman, however they do have a history of betting against themselves Eh? Goldman trade on all info they ahve. If a company has asked GS for advise then GS, despite hat they claim, will trade on it. GS should be forced to be just a trader. Besides, GS income is falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricks n' mortar Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Tapori said: The problem with your theory is that you would have to ignore all the establishment financial institutions literally panicking That's exactly what happened in the Scottish referendum - and when it came to the vote, I'd say that turned out to be a factor influencing more to vote for separation, than the union. Ordinary people know exactly who caused the financial crisis that's put them into increasing poverty over the last decade. Is it too much of a stretch to imagine the banks knew this? In a referendum where everyone's social media was being mined for an insight to how they think, and Frankie Boyle one of the most shared social commentators on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bricks n' mortar said: That's exactly what happened in the Scottish referendum - and when it came to the vote, I'd say that turned out to be a factor influencing more to vote for separation, than the union. Ordinary people know exactly who caused the financial crisis that's put them into increasing poverty over the last decade. Is it too much of a stretch to imagine the banks knew this? In a referendum where everyone's social media was being mined for an insight to how they think, and Frankie Boyle one of the most shared social commentators on there? To be more exact, it was mainly the Scottish banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirstieb Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 OK so maybe not orchestrated by the banks, but I can see them more as the scavengers swooping in to take advantage. I think we can all agree that the average billionaire is going to benefit much more than the average person and I think the media did a lot of propaganda to get the vote they wanted. Was just wondering what peoples thoughts were on this, as hardly anyone I know is able to talk about it as they arent interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, kirstieb said: OK so maybe not orchestrated by the banks, but I can see them more as the scavengers swooping in to take advantage. I think we can all agree that the average billionaire is going to benefit much more than the average person and I think the media did a lot of propaganda to get the vote they wanted. Was just wondering what peoples thoughts were on this, as hardly anyone I know is able to talk about it as they arent interested They are going to do this for anything they can. Its hardly news. The powers that be did not and do not want Brexit. This couldn't be more obvious IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynardgravy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Ask yourself what Soros wants. - so no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmin Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 16 hours ago, kirstieb said: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/could-brexit-benefit-britains-financial-services/ “The deal has been done,” says Lord Desai. “There will be no hard Brexit. The panic is over. I think house prices in London will now start rising.” That prospect will not be met with universal rejoicing – but that is another debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomandlu Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Locke said: The way for Britain to make a success of Brexit is to slash spending, taxes and regulation and become a business and tax haven. Let joy be unconfined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Invective Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 9 hours ago, TonyJ said: Goldman Sachs was the principle financial backer of Remain, which kind of kills this theory stone dead. Also the reason that meaningful Brexit wont happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stop_the_craziness Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, TonyJ said: A friend of mine voted Remain so his 4 bedroom house in Fulham did not go down in price. I voted Leave so that his 4 bedroom house in Fulham DID go down in price. I'm not sure which of us is winning yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noallegiance Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, TonyJ said: A friend of mine voted Remain so his 4 bedroom house in Fulham did not go down in price. Former friend, yeah? I hope you told him a significant price move in either direction is dick-all to do with either possible referendum result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapori Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Maynardgravy said: Ask yourself what Soros wants. - so no. To be Highlander? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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