jonb2 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, bear.getting.old said: All these collapses are good news, however they don't sem to be denting the unemployment figures. Why? Because new retail jobs are being created to make up the shortfall? Because, like anything our great leaders tell us, it's all lies http://uk.businessinsider.com/unemployment-in-the-uk-is-now-so-low-its-in-danger-of-exposing-the-lie-used-to-create-the-numbers-2017-7 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/29/sparkling-jobless-figures-mask-real-picture-uk-economy-unemployed https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/43-year-low-uk-unemployment-rate-masks-real-trouble-jobs-market-120228116.html https://www4.shu.ac.uk/research/cresr/news/real-level-unemployment-almost-35million-new-report https://boingboing.net/2017/07/25/lies-damned-lies-and-employmen.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No One Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Check out this headline https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6265569/No-deal-Brexit-cause-worst-economic-crash-45-YEARS.html Quote No-deal Brexit could cause the worst economic crash since the 'Three Day Week' in 1974 with the Pound slumping and Britons hoarding food, government watchdog warns Even I find this over the top, maximum I see pound parity with the USD and Mark Carnage having to raise to 5%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Patisserie Valerie seems to be fraud based collapse, but the other retailers going belly up this week... Have they all had a quarterly rent bill or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, Sausage said: Patisserie Valerie seems to be fraud based collapse, but the other retailers going belly up this week... Have they all had a quarterly rent bill or something? Coast went bankrupt due to not receive money for sold products from their House of Fraser concessions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashinmattress Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, Sausage said: Patisserie Valerie seems to be fraud based collapse, but the other retailers going belly up this week... Have they all had a quarterly rent bill or something? Awful place with very expensive and mass produced pseudo-french 'bakery' specialties... which generally taste like sh1te.... saying this as somebody who frequents Europe, including France, and loves off high street small family independent bakeries. I wouldn't miss them. Crap coffee too IMO. These sharks have displaced far to many local bakeries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 33 minutes ago, cashinmattress said: Awful place with very expensive and mass produced pseudo-french 'bakery' specialties... which generally taste like sh1te.... saying this as somebody who frequents Europe, including France, and loves off high street small family independent bakeries. I wouldn't miss them. Crap coffee too IMO. These sharks have displaced far to many local bakeries. I keep repeating myself but fux Starbucks, coasta and these fancy places. MaccyD do the best coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashinmattress Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, spyguy said: MaccyD do the best coffee. I agree.. just have to pinch my nose when I go in to order one... That weird synthetic funk of their restaurants... the amalgam of smelly kids & sick, plastics, industrial cleaning products, processed meat/food & the chemical byproducts of cooking them, fat fryers, toilet, primark's best double-polyester chav track suit. What did I miss? But yes... good coffee... and sadly much better than my old.. old favourite of Tim Hortons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 None of these places sell good coffee. Good coffee should be sweet - with overtones of toffee, vanilla, fruit etc. There should be no bitterness. I've yet to find a high street coffee that is any good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushblairandbrown Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Errol said: None of these places sell good coffee. Good coffee should be sweet - with overtones of toffee, vanilla, fruit etc. There should be no bitterness. I've yet to find a high street coffee that is any good at all. Have you tried putting sugar in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 19 hours ago, No One said: Check out this headline https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6265569/No-deal-Brexit-cause-worst-economic-crash-45-YEARS.html Even I find this over the top, maximum I see pound parity with the USD and Mark Carnage having to raise to 5%. Its balls. And I say that as someone who voted Remain. Leaving the EU will impact UK->EU trade a bit. But Rest of World->UK trade will be a benefit, lower tariffs. A lot of 'poor outside of EU' depends on the assumption that the EU offers a superior polical/economic model. It doesnt. The numberof Brits exposed to exporting is pretty small. UK will have a massive saving from getting all the mainly EEers off its benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No One Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 13/10/2018 at 08:53, spyguy said: Its balls. And I say that as someone who voted Remain. Leaving the EU will impact UK->EU trade a bit. But Rest of World->UK trade will be a benefit, lower tariffs. A lot of 'poor outside of EU' depends on the assumption that the EU offers a superior polical/economic model. It doesnt. The numberof Brits exposed to exporting is pretty small. UK will have a massive saving from getting all the mainly EEers off its benefits. There is a lot of bipartisan tripe out there. I don't believe the headline myself, but I know others will, which will help change sentiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashinmattress Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 13/10/2018 at 08:53, spyguy said: UK will have a massive saving from getting all the mainly EEers off its benefits. Massive? Not really. If we're just talking on the accounts for EE benefits its probably on par with the brexit bus figure each week... however, its a rather pointless discussion unless you want to ignore the net benefits of having EEs here working, paying taxes, contributing to society and all that jazz. etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 54 minutes ago, cashinmattress said: Massive? Not really. If we're just talking on the accounts for EE benefits its probably on par with the brexit bus figure each week... however, its a rather pointless discussion unless you want to ignore the net benefits of having EEs here working, paying taxes, contributing to society and all that jazz. etc... Repeating. Mrs spy is primary teacher. Her and her friends classes is 20/30% EE. Every single EE kid is pupil premium i.e. parents earn less than 12k. UKGOV is just not being forthcoming wih the cost of EE migration into the uK - tax credits, HB and public services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugzwang Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 EY Stupid Club forecast worst year since 2008. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-economy-heading-worst-since-142608207.html Quote The British economy is heading for its worst year in almost a decade amid the growing risks from no-deal Brexit, according to a leading economic forecaster. After official figures revealed zero growth in GDP in August, the EY Item Club said the economy would struggle to recover in the final months of the year owing to the increasing likelihood of Britain crashing out of the EU in less than six months’ time. The group of economists, which is the only non-government forecasting organisation to use the Treasury model of the economy, said it had downgraded its growth forecast for this year and next as a consequence. It forecast growth of 1.3% for the whole of 2018, down from a previous estimate of 1.4%. This would be the worst annual period for growth since the financial crisis. It also downgraded the outlook for the second quarter running. EY Item Club forecast a modest recovery next year if there was a smooth Brexit deal, with growth of 1.5%, down from its previous estimate of 1.6%. Economists have said failure to reach such a deal could significantly harm the UK economy, with the International Monetary Fund warning of “dire consequences” for growth. The government’s economic forecaster, the Office for Budget Responsibility, last week raised the prospect of a no-deal scenario triggering border delays, companies and consumers stockpiling food and other supplies, and aircraft being unable to fly in and out of Britain. The Item Club said Brexit uncertainties were influencing business investment decisions, but added that efforts to find alternative suppliers in the UK rather than the EU may lead to an increase in spending. It also said weaker growth in the eurozone had sapped appetite for exports, as the world economy digests the impact of US import tariffs that have already begun to drag on economic activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, spyguy said: Repeating. Mrs spy is primary teacher. Her and her friends classes is 20/30% EE. Every single EE kid is pupil premium i.e. parents earn less than 12k. UKGOV is just not being forthcoming wih the cost of EE migration into the uK - tax credits, HB and public services. At least they actually tell the school they are claiming benefits - when I was a school governor the bane of my life was getting those that I knew claimed to actually tell the school that they did.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Claire's eyes raft of store closures, putting hundreds of jobs at risk https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/15/claires-eyes-raft-of-store-closures-putting-hundreds-of-jobs-at-risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Houdini said: At least they actually tell the school they are claiming benefits - when I was a school governor the bane of my life was getting those that I knew claimed to actually tell the school that they did.. Hmm, The yare very very keen to kick off and ask for stuff - free meals, extras. I wasl also a governor. We'd get the odd broken limb - about 1 every 3 years. British parents just accepted it as an accident. The last 2 braeks have been EE. Both have tried to sue the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, spyguy said: Hmm, The yare very very keen to kick off and ask for stuff - free meals, extras. I wasl also a governor. We'd get the odd broken limb - about 1 every 3 years. British parents just accepted it as an accident. The last 2 braeks have been EE. Both have tried to sue the school. I probably should have been clearer the people we had difficulty getting to tell us were British.. The EE are no different from the travellers I used to have to deal with - but at least with the travellers they used to listen to the senior members of the family so provided you knew who to speak to you could sort things out* * That's no longer the case as the 2 local families are now in open warfare..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quicken Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Superdry sales drying up in the warm weather: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/15/superdry-profit-warning-sales-shares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saving For a Space Ship Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, cashinmattress said: Massive? Not really. If we're just talking on the accounts for EE benefits its probably on par with the brexit bus figure each week... however, its a rather pointless discussion unless you want to ignore the net benefits of having EEs here working, paying taxes, contributing to society and all that jazz. etc... Surely you'd have to compare it to what benefits Uk migrants recieved in EE countries. Got any figures? From articles like this , it appears like they can get very little .. In search of the only Briton in Poland claiming benefits https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/19/-sp-search-for-only-briton-poland-claiming-benefits Edit: from this article it provides some figure on Uk subjects recieving EE country benefits https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu Edited October 15, 2018 by Saving For a Space Ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Houdini said: At least they actually tell the school they are claiming benefits - when I was a school governor the bane of my life was getting those that I knew claimed to actually tell the school that they did.. Always had free dinners...... didn't have a problem with that, all the free dinner kids had a special queue, felt special, my nephew got two scholarships.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janch Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, Saving For a Space Ship said: Surely you'd have to compare it to what benefits Uk migrants recieved in EE countries. Got any figures? From articles like this , it appears like they can get very little .. In search of the only Briton in Poland claiming benefits https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/19/-sp-search-for-only-briton-poland-claiming-benefits Edit: from this article it provides some figure on Uk subjects recieving EE country benefits https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu That is truly horrific..............Spy is quite right. We should be able to save a fortune after Brexit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Sears in America file for Bankruptcy https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45859722 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyman1974 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Saving For a Space Ship said: Surely you'd have to compare it to what benefits Uk migrants recieved in EE countries. Got any figures? From articles like this , it appears like they can get very little .. In search of the only Briton in Poland claiming benefits https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/19/-sp-search-for-only-briton-poland-claiming-benefits Edit: from this article it provides some figure on Uk subjects recieving EE country benefits https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu So more EU nationals are on benefit in the UK, than UK nationals are on benefit in the EU..... not sure you've thought this graph through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffe Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 WTF? Benefit tourists from the EU do not come here for 'JSA'. They come for tax credits and Free housing. Biased Guardian clap-trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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