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No more free Kaspersky Antivirus.

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We've just received emails from Barclays, saying that they will no longer be giving away free Kaspersky Antivirus.

Actually, Kaspersky have been annoying the Hell out of me recently with constant popups saying that all WiFi networks are insecure and trying to flog their proxy service.

So, what to do now, back to Symantec, one of the free ones, or just uninstall Kaspersky and let the Windows 10 one take over?

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Windows 10 basically is a virus itself. It's pure spyware on a design level. Nothing you can do about it, unfortunately (which is why I'm not using it).

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Yeah, win10 spies on you, google spies on you, blah, blah.

Apparently the only thing, according to RT, that doesn't spy on you is software made by a KGB guy who is besties with Putin. If Kaspersky is found to be spying on you, RT already has an answer: it's a CIA clone. Putting that alibi out there after suspicions have been raised is a bit like the serial killer who shows up at every murder and 'accidentally' contaminates the crime scene.

The fact that RT are positing this alibi ahead of any smoking guns tells you one thing: they know there is gonna be a smoking gun sooner or later.

As for bemoaning  the lack of free Internet / AV security software from Barclays, try instead celebrating the fact that Barclays no longer have an excuse for account hacking, simply because you refused to use system pwning spyware - which of course was their first question in the even of account compromise.

Remember how PGP was once banned for exportt as it was seen as akin to arms exporting? The same authorities saw no issue in allowing software of dubious provenance onto all manner of systems, inclusing critical infrastructure. Now they have finally woken up, and woken up those charged with looking after our finances. But I've been warning about this for years (here and elsewhere).

And in the meantime I had to endure stupid adverts concerning Barclays attempts to teach us how to use the internet and be safe on-line.  You simply couldn't make this sh!t up. And irony-wise, it comes only a close second to the Equifax Hack.

The answer to security threats is not more software on your system, especially stuff that takes total control of it. That's like paying for mafia protection FFS. The answer is to use segmented, stripped down systems that have clearly defined uses (so, for instance, white listing, rather than black listing), and not to connect them or mix up their roles. Would you try to do banking at a brothel? Then why use the same system for banking and surfing for porn?

 

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These Russians really are genius level super villains. Putin is the smartest, toughest, most cunning man in history. Really clever move of Russia to be a struggling dump on the outside, while secretly being generations ahead on every level. Whats more, he/they developed all these abilities in four short years, since in 2012 President Obama ridiculed the idea that Russia was any sort of concern. What an amazing failure of historic proportions by Obama. He has criminally let down the US. Reminds me of Clintons failure to spot the Osama threat in the 90s.

Amazing what sort of cartoon villains a couple of wrong-think elections can suddenly conjure up.

Im keeping my Kaspersky. Pretty sure the Russians are not interested in looking at my PC.

Just waiting for the outcome of the investigation into the biased pro-Clinton, anti-Trump FBI agents who led both the "nothing to see here" investigation into Clinton and the investigation into Trump that the FBI and DOJ tried to cover up and hide from congress. Funny how I did not read that side of the story on Sky News website yesterday when it reported on Trump's "outlandish" criticism of the FBI's reputation. (Oh, the article appears to have been removed. Funny that.) Still no mention of it in the new Trump stories on the website as far as I can see. Lots more talk about a very important Hollywood tape from 2005 though where he says women throw themselves at him because he is rich and famous. Very educational because I would never guess that could happen.

How anyone can believe any of these people is beyond me. This is a bullsh*t high level Game of Thrones thing being played out by a bunch of deranged power hungry sociopaths and is nothing to do with reasonable, non-sociopathic people leading ordinary lives. Russia is not looking at your computer through KIS/KAV.

Russia ate my homework; the dog is off the hook.

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1 hour ago, Sledgehead said:

Yeah, win10 spies on you, google spies on you, blah, blah.

Apparently the only thing, according to RT, that doesn't spy on you is software made by a KGB guy who is besties with Putin. If Kaspersky is found to be spying on you, RT already has an answer: it's a CIA clone. Putting that alibi out there after suspicions have been raised is a bit like the serial killer who shows up at every murder and 'accidentally' contaminates the crime scene.

Actually, it was the Snowden and other wikileaks that revealed how the CIA have various tools to basically hack whatever they want. They can also create hacks and give the impression that they originate from any country they choose.

Ignoring the Russian software issue, it's hilarious that anyone now would trust any software that comes out of the US. Surely Snowden has taught people that much?

And the US agencies accusing Russia (or anyone else) of hacking is just ludicrous in the extreme. Hypocrisy doesn't even begin to describe it. How the US can sit there with a straight face and gibber about Russia this and Russia that is just insane. This is the US remember - who, as Snowden showed, are effectively spying on and hacking everybody in the entire world (including Russia - the Snowden leaks showed Russia as one of the main targets of NSA data collection).

Also remember that one of the Snowden leaks was a top secret document from the Desk of Obama - a signed authorisation to begin gathering targets for cyber attacks around the world.

I highly recommend this book if you want the shocking details - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Place_to_Hide_(Greenwald_book) 

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1 minute ago, Errol said:

Ignoring the Russian software issue, it's hilarious that anyone now would trust any software that comes out of the US. Surely Snowden has taught people that much?

When hearing about Snowden these days, if you even do, what is the western media narrative? The man hiding from US justice in Russia. How much do they really talk about the specifics of what Snowden revealed?

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Just now, AdamoMucci said:

How much do they really talk about the specifics of what Snowden revealed?

They try not to.

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30 minutes ago, AdamoMucci said:

These Russians really are genius level super villains. Putin is the smartest, toughest, most cunning man in history. Really clever move of Russia to be a struggling dump on the outside, while secretly being generations ahead on every level. Whats more, he/they developed all these abilities in four short years, since in 2012 President Obama ridiculed the idea that Russia was any sort of concern. What an amazing failure of historic proportions by Obama. He has criminally let down the US. Reminds me of Clintons failure to spot the Osama threat in the 90s.

Amazing what sort of cartoon villains a couple of wrong-think elections can suddenly conjure up.

Im keeping my Kaspersky. Pretty sure the Russians are not interested in looking at my PC.

Just waiting for the outcome of the investigation into the biased pro-Clinton, anti-Trump FBI agents who led both the "nothing to see here" investigation into Clinton and the investigation into Trump that the FBI and DOJ tried to cover up and hide from congress. Funny how I did not read that side of the story on Sky News website yesterday when it reported on Trump's "outlandish" criticism of the FBI's reputation. (Oh, the article appears to have been removed. Funny that.) Still no mention of it in the new Trump stories on the website as far as I can see. Lots more talk about a very important Hollywood tape from 2005 though where he says women throw themselves at him because he is rich and famous. Very educational because I would never guess that could happen.

How anyone can believe any of these people is beyond me. This is a bullsh*t high level Game of Thrones thing being played out by a bunch of deranged power hungry sociopaths and is nothing to do with reasonable, non-sociopathic people leading ordinary lives. Russia is not looking at your computer through KIS/KAV.

Russia ate my homework; the dog is off the hook.

Well, all that shows is you have a mindset like  everyone else.

The difference between you and me, is I don't trust Barclays - the same crowd that happily manipulated libor. You probably don't either, but somehow you seem to allow your animosity towards Clinton to spill over into love for Trump, trust in the Russians and therefore trust in Barclays.

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35 minutes ago, Errol said:

Actually, it was the Snowden and other wikileaks that revealed how the CIA have various tools to basically hack whatever they want. They can also create hacks and give the impression that they originate from any country they choose.

Ignoring the Russian software issue, it's hilarious that anyone now would trust any software that comes out of the US. Surely Snowden has taught people that much?

And the US agencies accusing Russia (or anyone else) of hacking is just ludicrous in the extreme. Hypocrisy doesn't even begin to describe it. How the US can sit there with a straight face and gibber about Russia this and Russia that is just insane. This is the US remember - who, as Snowden showed, are effectively spying on and hacking everybody in the entire world (including Russia - the Snowden leaks showed Russia as one of the main targets of NSA data collection).

Also remember that one of the Snowden leaks was a top secret document from the Desk of Obama - a signed authorisation to begin gathering targets for cyber attacks around the world.

I highly recommend this book if you want the shocking details - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Place_to_Hide_(Greenwald_book) 

Well, since you think my distrust of KIS is hilarious, here's something I find hilarious: that you think the FSB isn't spying because the CIA are.

So they both spy. Agreed? And your computer could be used in may ways to undermine the state, yes?

If you accept that, there are some thorny issues to overcome before you can be so trusting of Russia. Small things. Like the murder of Alexander Litvinenko. Or Boris Berezovsky. The East-West arms race. Presumably you don't deny any of these things exist? Presumably you understand that sides have been taken?

Now you just have to decide whose side you are on. That's clearly what Snowden has done. And, despite all you might say about the West, you have to accept that, unlike Litvinenko, he's still alive. And as much as I despise what is being done to Assange, I have to admit that, just like Snowden, he is still very much in the pink. Unlike enemies of the Russian state.

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Possibly of use if you were considering buying a new PC/laptop this Christmas:

 

"Wreaking Havoc" - HP Installs System-Slowing Spyware On Its PCs Without Consent

According to numerous reports gathered by Computer World, the brand is deploying a telemetry client (a system data that is uploaded by the Connected User Experience and Telemetry component), on customer computers without asking permission.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-04/wreaking-havoc-hp-installs-system-slowing-spyware-its-pcs-without-consent

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31 minutes ago, Sledgehead said:

Like the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.

On this point - the man was a former FSB agent who turned apparent traitor, running to the UK to discuss issues with various British agencies. On this basis I wouldn't have much sympathy. The spy game is a hard business and I gather it is standard practice by all intelligence services (including Western ones) to deal with traitors.

That said, his death could have been caused by any number of actors and the evidence pointing to any single actor is scant and highly suspect at best.

I should add, that Snowden's activity differs in that he carefully selected only documents to show the already unlawful/anti-constitutional activity of the US Government. On a legal basis you can argue he is not a traitor. You can also argue that at the time of his leak he was not a field agent or even in the secret service. He was an NSA contractor.

Snowden specifically did not leak/take any documents that he felt were unrelated to the point he was making (i.e. the data collection and unfiltered spying). He is in Russia now only because the US removed his passport, thereby trapping him in the transit zone at Moscow airport.

Many have also speculated that the only reason he is still alive now is that he managed to get stuck in Russia - Russia being the hardest place for the Americans to target and kill people in (particularly people who are already being watched by FSB - for obvious reasons).

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14 minutes ago, Sledgehead said:

Now you just have to decide whose side you are on. That's clearly what Snowden has done. 

Snowden is on the side of the American people and the American constitution (which has been hijacked by neocons and police state architects). Which side did you think he was on?

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The fact that British security agencies were using any foreign anti-virus software though, just beggars belief. I wouldn't expect any nation to use foreign software on sensitive systems.

I wouldn't expect the Kremlin to be running Microsoft AV, or Britain to be running French antivirus. All countries spy on one another as a matter of course. It's been happening since the craft of spying was invented.

If you want something kept secret, you run on a proprietary network that is not internet connected. British secret services/secret systems using Russian AV software is just hilarious. If you put it in a book, nobody would believe it.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/03/uk_government_bans_russian_anti_virus_software/

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1 hour ago, Sledgehead said:

Well, all that shows is you have a mindset like  everyone else.

The difference between you and me, is I don't trust Barclays - the same crowd that happily manipulated libor. You probably don't either, but somehow you seem to allow your animosity towards Clinton to spill over into love for Trump, trust in the Russians and therefore trust in Barclays.

My post does not demonstrate an animosity towards Clinton or a love for Trump. You are just not used to hearing anything negative about Clinton or neutral about Trump. I wonder why.

My post suggests I am keeping things in perspective. It also highlights potential serious misconduct and dishonesty by the US FBI and DOJ. Because this is all politics. Feds and DOJers are political. They are all establishment types climbing the greasy pole the old fashioned way and then this brash arrogant New Yorker jumps the queue without putting in his ass kissing years.

This is all bullsh*t sociopathic power mongers jockeying for power nationally and internationally and really isnt all that relevant to ordinary people. Its all infotainment. Whatever happens with all this Trump/Russia nonsense over the next few years is going to make very little difference to my life frankly. Just like 13 years of Labour vs 7 years of Tories has made no difference either. Just like, when I honestly think about it, my life does not seem to really be affected whether I read the news daily or weekly. Infotainment.

As I say, my post is just keeping things in perspective. The hysteria about the new bogey man is ridiculous. Russia is not spying on random nobody Brits through KIS, even if they could.

Last I checked years ago, KAV had one of the best or the best detection rate. Now what is really the bigger consideration for random nobodies, switching products and potentially having poorer everyday detection, or the chance the FSB decides they have nothing better to do than look at Mr Nobody's computer and check out the lolcat collection.

(Yes it is years since I looked at detection rates. If it is no longer as good relative to others that is a different issue. Russia aint going to come into the decision.)

Im keeping the Kaspersky brand of false sense of security that is virus scanners today.

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2 minutes ago, AdamoMucci said:

As I say, my post is just keeping things in perspective. The hysteria about the new bogey man is ridiculous. Russia is not spying on random nobody Brits through KIS, even if they could.

 

But you aren't keeping things in perspective as your blanket trust in Russia, KIS proves. Why distrust the CIA and trust the FSB? It makes absolutely no sense. And KIS don't need to spy on you. But one day they may call on you to 'help' them, or simply enlist the helpp of your machine in a DDoS attack on critical infrastructure. How can you be so sure this will never happen?

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1 hour ago, Errol said:

The fact that British security agencies were using any foreign anti-virus software though, just beggars belief. I wouldn't expect any nation to use foreign software on sensitive systems.

I wouldn't expect the Kremlin to be running Microsoft AV, or Britain to be running French antivirus.

Absa-bluddy-loot-leigh.

Trump says "America first". And he expects Putin to say "Russia first". Using foreign security software not only appears a deliberate attempt to turn a blind eye to the adversarial reality of international relationships, it also deprives national security firms of business and, perhaps more seriously, ensures that we simply fail to nurture the technical know-how that will ensure our survival as an independent nation.

Meanwhile, Barclays customers must be feeling completely confused. Whilst use of KIS is no longer tacitly required, advice on the "Digital Eagles" pages (no sniggering at the back!) gives a contrary impression:

 

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1 hour ago, Errol said:

Snowden is was on the side of the American people and the American constitution (which has been hijacked by neocons and police state architects). Which side did you think he was on?

Fixed.

C'mon. Let's think about this. Snowden hasn't a friend outside Russia. What kind of position do you suppose that puts him in? Whatever Putin wants him to say, he's gonna say. He simply has no option. You can't go around accusing xyz of being open to blackmail or bribery and not accept the compromised situation Snowden now finds himself in.

He was always a 'dead man walking'. If he had spilled everything before he fled to Russia, Russia simply wouldn't have wanted him. But now he's there, you have to take anything he says with a pinch of salt. He's Putin's bitch now. Putin knows it. He knows it. I know it. You know it.

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6 hours ago, Errol said:

Windows 10 basically is a virus itself. It's pure spyware on a design level. Nothing you can do about it, unfortunately (which is why I'm not using it).

Using Linux instead?

 

Or is there a Russian OS out there.

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6 hours ago, Errol said:

On this point - the man was a former FSB agent who turned apparent traitor, , running to the UK to discuss issues with various British agencies

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I should add, that Snowden's activity differs in that he carefully selected only documents to show the already unlawful/anti-constitutional activity of the US Government. On a legal basis you can argue he is not a traitor. You can also argue that at the time of his leak he was not a field agent or even in the secret service. He was an NSA contractor.

Er, Litvinenko was whistle blower, exposing personal corruption. What state secrets did he leak? By contrast Snowden exposed the modus operandi of the state  secret service.

You say he ran to Britain to  discuss "issues", by which I guess you mean state secrets, with British agencies. In reality, he ran here to avoid persecution.

Now, if you are saying he discussed secrets when here, maybe so. As you say, it's a tough game. Would you really expect the UK to pass up the chance to  demand something in exchange for asylum? I'd guess not.

And would you expect the Russians to act any differently towards Snowden? So we can agree, Snowden is sharing state secrets with Moscow, no doubt.

The difference is, Litvinenko fled here because he exposed corruption. Snowden fled to Russia because he compromised American secret service operations.

Ever thought of going to Moscow yourself? It's just the way you so effortlessly dance on the head of a pin, I feel sure the Bolshoi would snap you up on the spot!

 

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Snowden ...He is in Russia now only because the US removed his passport, thereby trapping him in the transit zone at Moscow airport.

 

Oh, so the Americans want him in Russia?

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Many have also speculated that the only reason he is still alive now is that he managed to get stuck in Russia - Russia being the hardest place for the Americans to target and kill people in

Oh, so the Americans want to kill him?

It all makes sense now: the Americans wanted to kill Snowden, so they devised a fiendish plan to trap him in the one place they couldn't.

I should be discussing these things with you more frequently. It's all so much clearer.

:D

 

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12 minutes ago, longgone said:

Oh dear kaputski 

Which in itself is an interesting comment.

Why, for instance have you spelled "kaputski" with an "i"?

Well, I think we all know; it's because it seems more Russian to Westerners.

And which of these sounds more Russian: Eugene or Yvgeney?

.... And yet he calls himself Eugene Kaspersky

I guess once a spy, always a spy. And yes he was / is a Russian spy.

Is it even acceptable for a KGB guy like Kaspersky not to do everything they can to advance the cause of the Russian state?

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