rollover Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Sainsbury's has said it will cut up to 2,000 jobs from its human resources staff as part of plans to reduce costs. BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsmf Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Have they all been replaced with an algorithm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Why do they need 2,000 people in Human Resources anyway? HR is a joke at the best of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flopsy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 seems to be a trend to outsource HR and payroll abroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoughtCriminal Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, Mikhail Liebenstein said: Why do they need 2,000 people in Human Resources anyway? HR is a joke at the best of times. To manager all the human resource workers of course....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavalas Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 288 jobs at Asda head office gone too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpg50000 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said: Why do they need 2,000 people in Human Resources anyway? HR is a joke at the best of times. Exactly my thoughts too. 2 f***ing thousand. WTF?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnails Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Sainsbury's treat there staff a lot better than some supermarket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sPinwheel Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Bsmf said: Have they all been replaced with an algorithm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavalas Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Not just HR according to this... https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/17/sainsburys-to-cut-2000-jobs-across-uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsmf Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said: Why do they need 2,000 people in Human Resources anyway? HR is a joke at the best of times. Sainsbury's head office used to have around 5k people working in it. I doubt they even have 2k HR people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said: Why do they need 2,000 people in Human Resources anyway? HR is a joke at the best of times. It is insane. Back in the day, they were there purely to recruit people and make sure everyone got paid. Nowadays, we have to do our own recruitment and there's a payroll department! Leaving HR to concentrate on awareness sessions, resilience workshops etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msi Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Reading the article, the 2000 will consist of both Head office and Store Staff. Payroll is probably being centralised and pushed to use BACS payments so you don't need anyone to make up wage packets. With inflation pushing into margins, they are hurting. Sainsbury is too middle of the road - not posh enough to push prices like Waitrose, not aggressive enough to screw suppliers like Tesco and Asda, and not cost focused like Aldi and Lidl. I think only Morrisons only has room to evolve and grow, subject to getting a new top management team and getting rid of the london centric morons that they took on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 19 hours ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said: Why do they need 2,000 people in Human Resources anyway? HR is a joke at the best of times. 8 hours ago, Craig_ said: It is insane. Back in the day, they were there purely to recruit people and make sure everyone got paid. Nowadays, we have to do our own recruitment and there's a payroll department! Leaving HR to concentrate on awareness sessions, resilience workshops etc etc... It's worse than that: that's just what they do when they're in a holding pattern. The way they earn their keep is through enforcement, control and psychological warfare, all directed at the other employees. If you have a co-worker who kicks up a fuss about poor working conditions or low pay, HR will sort him out. If people start to complain seriously, there is always an HR "process" for them to dissipate their energy and morale into. The rest of the time, HR are dreaming up stack ranking schemes or other forms of competitve evaluation, which are much easier on management than trying to gauge the value of someone's work, or (heaven forfend) inspiring people, and which are designed to pit workers against each other, leaving them no time to think about how much is being wasted on expensive and useless management. HR are worth their weight in gold, so all the functions (like recruitment and training) get off-loaded onto the other employees to allow HR to maximise their value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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