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In this article about house prices, there is a comment about the UK being on the brink of social collapse because of the cost of housing. I agree, no matter how much denial Mark Carnet appears to be in judging by today's comments. What are people's thoughts? Is a socialist government the only current way out? 

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/oct/17/house-prices-rising-5-a-year-in-more-bad-news-for-would-be-buyers?CMP=share_btn_wa

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In this article about house prices, there is a comment about the UK being on the brink of social collapse because of the cost of housing. I agree, no matter how much denial Mark Carnet appears to be in judging by today's comments. What are people's thoughts? Is a socialist government the only current way out? 

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/oct/17/house-prices-rising-5-a-year-in-more-bad-news-for-would-be-buyers?CMP=share_btn_wa

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Sitting here second fixing sockets and letting my mind (and phone hand) wander and I thought that sometimes living here and now is like walking around one big insane asylum 

Not financial related as such but without some semblance of sanity there is no such thing as finance

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51 minutes ago, Midlifemum said:

 Is a socialist government the only current way out? 

Socialist government will just be a quicker way to reach the collapse, so in that respect it might be a good thing.

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54 minutes ago, Midlifemum said:

In this article about house prices, there is a comment about the UK being on the brink of social collapse because of the cost of housing. I agree, no matter how much denial Mark Carnet appears to be in judging by today's comments. What are people's thoughts? Is a socialist government the only current way out? 

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/oct/17/house-prices-rising-5-a-year-in-more-bad-news-for-would-be-buyers?CMP=share_btn_wa

Are you trying to cheer up Si1 ?

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I think our society has been slowly collapsing since the mid 70's.  The ruling elite have lied to us about many things and as each year passes it seems to get more blatant.

Probably worth measuring how strong and stable our society is by looking at how we treat the weakest and least able.

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3 minutes ago, dougless said:

I think our society has been slowly collapsing since the mid 70's.  The ruling elite have lied to us about many things and as each year passes it seems to get more blatant.

Probably worth measuring how strong and stable our society is by looking at how we treat the weakest and least able.

we call them the "benefits class" and sneer at them when our tellies tell us to

 

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34 minutes ago, thewig said:

we call them the "benefits class" and sneer at them when our tellies tell us to pay for them with our taxes

 

 

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2 hours ago, Midlifemum said:

In this article about house prices, there is a comment about the UK being on the brink of social collapse because of the cost of housing. I agree, no matter how much denial Mark Carnet appears to be in judging by today's comments. What are people's thoughts? Is a socialist government the only current way out? 

What exactly is "social collapse"?

If it means people rioting in the street and lynching those who own houses - a latter day "peasant's revolt" - then no, I don't think that will happen. Most people's situations are not bad enough that they'd risk jail or injury just because their rent is high.

If it means non-homeowners outnumbering and so outvoting homeowners to change the rules of the game, then yes definitely that could happen (although isn't "collapse" in my mind).

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A little historical perspective...

50 years ago, brutal winter, starvation, ruin after SWW, beginning of Cold War misery for millions

100 years ago, world consumed by total war, feudalism or subsistence existence akin to captivity for most

200 years ago, early empires, slavery, barbarism and outright misery/early death for most.

Things are just dandy right now. We're not even in recession! Interest rates were running at 5% for years and nobody blinked. We're just trying something progressive - leaving the EU - and struggling to contain the caged and hungry hounds of 2008. Going back to the busted flush big state desperate efforts of the late 70s/80s are not going to save us. Grin and bear it folks, endure.

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9 minutes ago, chronyx said:

I just hate both

Both have nothing but derision for anyone who works but are happy enough to leech from them.

not convinced that's an accurate description of "those benefits scumbags"

if the 'system' we are forced to operate under makes it easier for some people to not work than work, why the f*ck would anyone go to work to pay taxes to a bunch of scumbags (the elite)

 

I find it hard to blame them when I put myself in their shoes, but then I don't consume the media portrayal of the benefits class although I'm aware of it through other people's casual hatred of them

 

 

 

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On a logical basis you're entirely correct - the path of least resistance.

However life is not a logic game and no one forces them to breed like bacteria, drag their children up, get them to go to school if they can be bothered, and not only gain nothing from the experience, but disrupt the education of children whose parents aren't utter scum, and then begin the cycle again.

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2 minutes ago, chronyx said:

On a logical basis you're entirely correct - the path of least resistance.

However life is not a logic game and no one forces them to breed like bacteria, drag their children up, get them to go to school if they can be bothered, and not only gain nothing from the experience, but disrupt the education of children whose parents aren't utter scum, and then begin the cycle again.

oy vey!

I guess if they feel they've gained nothing from the whole school "experience" themselves they are less likely to see the value for their own children? now if state enforced brainwashing/schooling were optional on the other hand...

 

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, chronyx said:

Also agree about the brainwashing to be fair. 

But it's not like they are being home schooled :lol:

true dat but my point was the establishment scumbags need a benefits class for the plebs to sneer downwards at lest they dare direct their sneer upwards toward the real culprits

 

these poor people have been socially engineered to be this way, I can't hate millions of people for being disadvantaged in a corrupt feudal society 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, thehowler said:

A little historical perspective...

50 years ago, brutal winter, starvation, ruin after SWW, beginning of Cold War misery for millions

100 years ago, world consumed by total war, feudalism or subsistence existence akin to captivity for most

200 years ago, early empires, slavery, barbarism and outright misery/early death for most.

Things are just dandy right now. We're not even in recession! Interest rates were running at 5% for years and nobody blinked. We're just trying something progressive - leaving the EU - and struggling to contain the caged and hungry hounds of 2008. Going back to the busted flush big state desperate efforts of the late 70s/80s are not going to save us. Grin and bear it folks, endure.

Indeed; I shall change my main form of transport from walking to skipping!

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4 minutes ago, thewig said:

true dat but my point was the establishment scumbags need a benefits class for the plebs to sneer downwards at lest they dare direct their sneer upwards toward the real culprits

 

these poor people have been socially engineered to be this way, I can't hate millions of people for being disadvantaged in a corrupt feudal society 

 

 

I don't hate anyone for being disadvantaged, or even 'advantaged'.  I do hate leeches, thieves, filibusterers, chancers, the ill-mannered and workshy though. Regardless of their bank balance and where they call home.

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6 minutes ago, chronyx said:

I don't hate anyone for being disadvantaged, or even 'advantaged'.  I do hate leeches, thieves, filibusterers, chancers, the ill-mannered and workshy though. Regardless of their bank balance and where they call home.

good call

you should stick that up in your front window, "no leeches, thieves, filibusterers, chancers, ill-mannered or workshy. and NO junk mail" :P

 

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Just now, thewig said:

good call

you should stick that up in your front window, "no leeches, thieves, filibusterers, chancers, ill-mannered or workshy. and NO junk mail" :P

 

I'll have to ask next door if I can string a banner or something.  My front window is tiny. :(

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Just now, ThoughtCriminal said:

Societal collapse is inevitable but it's nothing to do with money.

 

We were once united by religion, culture and ethnicity.

 

Now we're united by........nothing.

I'd argue scientism is the new one world religion

 

everyone loves them a bit of space nonsense right? 

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54 minutes ago, thehowler said:

A little historical perspective...

50 years ago, brutal winter, starvation, ruin after SWW, beginning of Cold War misery for millions

100 years ago, world consumed by total war, feudalism or subsistence existence akin to captivity for most

200 years ago, early empires, slavery, barbarism and outright misery/early death for most.

Things are just dandy right now. We're not even in recession! Interest rates were running at 5% for years and nobody blinked. We're just trying something progressive - leaving the EU - and struggling to contain the caged and hungry hounds of 2008. Going back to the busted flush big state desperate efforts of the late 70s/80s are not going to save us. Grin and bear it folks, endure.

So there's only three points in history when it's been more unequal?

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also history is written by the winners, or the rulers, take your pick

"say what you want bruv, I ain't believing his story, guy is an agenda ridden c*** of the highest order"

 

 

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