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Amnesty for fire tower block illegals, says Mayor

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3 minutes ago, juvenal said:

Anyone breaking the law should be punished by the law.

If not, what's the point of the law ?

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....always the most money has been made from the poor, those with needs, with little influence and power.......only have to ask yourself why immigration and cheap labour has always been encouraged.;)

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1 minute ago, winkie said:

....always the most money has been made from the poor, those with needs, with little influence and power.......only have to ask yourself why immigration and cheap labour has always been encouraged.;)

The Tories because they don't want to look racist and are stupid, Labour to get new voters (the Tories got a majority of white votes IIRC).

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No amnesty. Why should there be an amnesty? They are illegals and should be shipped directly back to wherever they came from. Pay them a small leaving fee if you must.

Edited by Errol

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2 minutes ago, iamnumerate said:

The Tories because they don't want to look racist and are stupid, Labour to get new voters (the Tories got a majority of white votes IIRC).

Learning, except illegals can't vote, like rich non uk citizens with investments can't vote in general elections.....like one person with one home has one vote, like a one resident person with many investment properties only has one vote.;)

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The entire way this has been handled shows how the rule of law and any notions of good governance have been completely corroded in the modern age.

Illegal subletting is probably a fire hazard.

Not to mention the manifest injustice of these people being offered housing of which most can only dream as danegeld to the media.   Surely this is a matter for the insurance companies? 

Meanwhile T.May is now grovelling towards the press pack, a mawkish display of self-abasement in a transparent attempt to curry some votes, or mollify some journalists.  Was she ever a Housing Minister?  Any chain of responsibility to her is extremely dubious - illegal subletters are more culpable than she is, not to mention the council, or the migration regime that filled London to bursting point.

Yes, it's a tragedy, but the response to it has been just insanity

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4 minutes ago, winkie said:

Learning, except illegals can't vote, like rich non uk citizens with investments can't vote in general elections.....like one person with one home has one vote, like a one resident person with many investment properties only has one vote.;)

After a few years as an illegal you can claim for residency.  I know lots of people who have done it and then you can vote. 

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/living-in-the-uk-illegally/your-options-if-youre-in-the-uk-illegally/

 

No one comes to the UK to be illegal for ever, they come because it is a way to become legal.  If we said illegals will never become legal then we would get a lot less.

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1 minute ago, iamnumerate said:

After a few years as an illegal you can claim for residency.  I know lots of people who have done it and then you can vote. 

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/living-in-the-uk-illegally/your-options-if-youre-in-the-uk-illegally/

 

No one comes to the UK to be illegal for ever, they come because it is a way to become legal.  If we said illegals will never become legal then we would get a lot less.

...quite, if not illegal are legal....had a few amnesties in the past.. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-illegal-immigrants-immigration-amnesty-eu-referendum-vote-leave-a7090246.html

once legal more can be made.;)

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Just now, winkie said:

...quite, if not illegal are legal....had a few amnesties in the past.. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-illegal-immigrants-immigration-amnesty-eu-referendum-vote-leave-a7090246.html

once legal more can be made.;)

Thank God he is unlikely to be prime minister, there is never ever a final amnesty for illegal immigration, ever new one creates more illegals.

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It's absurd. The population of the UK went up by 500,000+ last year (most from immigration). It's the equivalent to a city the size of Bradford.

If we keep on letting people in the country will be even more of a hell hole than it is already! Enough is enough.

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Just now, Errol said:

It's absurd. The population of the UK went up by 500,000+ last year (most from immigration). It's the equivalent to a city the size of Bradford.

If we keep on letting people in the country will be even more of a hell hole than it is already! Enough is enough.

Sadly although most British people think this is bad, even in by elections most don't vote for the only party who wants to stop it.  If you have never voted UKIP don't complain about traffic, over crowding, lack of school places etc.

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1 minute ago, Errol said:

It's absurd. The population of the UK went up by 500,000+ last year (most from immigration). It's the equivalent to a city the size of Bradford.

If we keep on letting people in the country will be even more of a hell hole than it is already! Enough is enough.

obviously there are plenty who gain from immigration, many who don't and others neutral.....this is what we have to look at carefully, the problems arise where fewer are gaining and more are feeling the pain.;)

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1 minute ago, Errol said:

It's absurd. The population of the UK went up by 500,000+ last year (most from immigration). It's the equivalent to a city the size of Bradford.

If we keep on letting people in the country will be even more of a hell hole than it is already! Enough is enough.

Osborne's admission in the Standard that no-one in the cabinet actually supported the govt line on immigration policy should have lost them the GE

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3 minutes ago, zugzwang said:

Osborne's admission in the Standard that no-one in the cabinet actually supported the govt line on immigration policy should have lost them the GE

The problem is who could you vote for instead?  If I were a Tory I would be very unhappy with Osborne.

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"There may be people who have got friends and family visiting, who they are worried about if they report them because they haven't got immigration status."

If they are visiting legally, then they would have immigration status. The mayor knows this but is avoiding using any language that could be perceived as inflammatory. 

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reciprocity ....if was discovered as an illegal alien in their country I would expect to be taken to a detention centre or prison where would be fined and would stay until I paid for my own fare back to the UK.

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18 minutes ago, Errol said:

It's absurd. The population of the UK went up by 500,000+ last year (most from immigration). It's the equivalent to a city the size of Bradford.

If we keep on letting people in the country will be even more of a hell hole than it is already! Enough is enough.

No, apparently it's all OK and sustainable, with no downsides because, erm, nope, really can't see it at all. Maybe the UK is infinitely large and I've never realised it.

Edited by Riedquat

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The furthest an amnesty should go is not receiving any additional punishment. There's no way in hell though that it should mean that the offence is allowed to continue. If the offence was drug dealing instead of being in the country illegally you'd still expect them to stop dealing drugs, i.e. stop the offence. Or in this case stop being in the country illegally, by leaving it.

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