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Are the establishment Sabotaging BrExit to suit the bankers/corporations ?

Are the establishment Sabotaging BrExit to suit the bankers/corporations ?  

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  1. 1. Are the establishment Sabotaging BrExit to suit the bankers/corporations ?

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14 minutes ago, cashinmattress said:

No Brexit is better than a bad Brexit.

No Brexit is much worse than a bad BrExit because there will be 52% of the population angry and voting for far right wing partys in order to get BrExit.

Thanks for you opinion tho Theresa.

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32 minutes ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

No Brexit is much worse than a bad BrExit because there will be 52% of the population angry and voting for far right wing partys in order to get BrExit.

Thanks for you opinion tho Theresa.

The latest poll I saw was 49% Leave and 51% Remain. Only 36% wants a hard Brexit. Whatever happens a lot of people won't be happy. 

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Just now, slawek said:

The latest poll I saw was 49% Leave and 51% Remain. Only 36% wants a hard Brexit. Whatever happens a lot of people won't be happy. 

Are you getting paid to post that s**t ?

The was only 1 poll, the EU ref, we know the result.

There is no hard/soft brexit, there is only BrExit.

Leave the EU, Westminster control immigration

If they think, Leave the EU, keep everything about the EU to suit, bankers, spivs and parasites,  including freedom of movement then they are in for 1 big f**king shock

I now live in something akin to a 2nd world ghetto ( Northampton )  and i've had enough,

If they had any sense they would start listening to the BRITISH people and not the EU bankers.

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6 minutes ago, slawek said:

The latest poll I saw was 49% Leave and 51% Remain. Only 36% wants a hard Brexit. Whatever happens a lot of people won't be happy. 

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4 minutes ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

Are you getting paid to post that s**t ?

The was only 1 poll, the EU ref, we know the result.

There is no hard/soft brexit, there is only BrExit.

Leave the EU, Westminster control immigration

If they think, Leave the EU, keep everything about the EU to suit, bankers, spivs and parasites,  including freedom of movement then they are in for 1 big f**king shock

I now live in something akin to a 2nd world ghetto ( Northampton )  and i've had enough,

If they had any sense they would start listening to the BRITISH people and not the EU bankers.

Absolutely spot on

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2 minutes ago, Gribble said:

Absolutely spot on

Cheers man.

I'm sick of this bulls**t.

I'm sick of paying taxes to support every other ****

I'm sick of paying taxes and my savings/income being robbed to support the bankers/spivs and their f**king housing bubble.

Those ****s in westminster refuse to run the country for anyone other than a small f**king minority

 

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, slawek said:

The latest poll I saw was 49% Leave and 51% Remain. Only 36% wants a hard Brexit. Whatever happens a lot of people won't be happy. 

Funny the last poll we had (last Thursday) had >80% of those who voted went for pro Brexit parties (Con and Labour)

John McDonnell was on TV yesterday saying Brexit means leaving the single market. I shall leave the more astute amongst you to work out what that means....

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4 minutes ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

Are you getting paid to post that s**t ?

The was only 1 poll, the EU ref, we know the result.

There is no hard/soft brexit, there is only BrExit.

Leave the EU, Westminster control immigration

If they think, Leave the EU, keep everything about the EU to suit, bankers, spivs and parasites,  including freedom of movement then they are in for 1 big f**king shock

I now live in something akin to a 2nd world ghetto ( Northampton )  and i've had enough,

If they had any sense they would start listening to the BRITISH people and not the EU bankers.

I am just presenting facts that your point of view is a minority, most of the people don't share it but lots do. No reason to go ballistic.

I agree the UK situation is not great but the EU has a little to do with it. There is another 800 page threat where that was discussed in details.   

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No the establishment just got thrown a Brexit lifeline with this incredible TM debacle.  However the larger event of last week was the re-normalizing of moderate socialist policies.  The establishment are reeling from uppity young people wanting to row back on "privatisation of the profits, socialisation of the losses". 

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1 minute ago, ElPapasito said:

No the establishment just got thrown a Brexit lifeline with this incredible TM debacle.  However the larger event of last week was the re-normalizing of moderate socialist policies.  The establishment are reeling from uppity young people wanting to row back on "privatisation of the profits, socialisation of the losses". 

Thrown, or contrived.

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boomers are saying the youngsters are voting wrong and corbyn will take their inheritance. 

surely if things were fairer inheritance would not be that important if the youngsters had more life chances ?  then the house could be used to pay for capped care costs £200 a week. 

seeing as the ass wipers actually only earn minimum wage. 

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The recent election vote shows overwhelming support for Brexit (in some form). Labour is pro-Brexit as are (obviously) the Conservatives.

Brexit will go ahead now, in any event.

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23 minutes ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

Are you getting paid to post that s**t ?

The was only 1 poll, the EU ref, we know the result.

There is no hard/soft brexit, there is only BrExit.

Leave the EU, Westminster control immigration

If they think, Leave the EU, keep everything about the EU to suit, bankers, spivs and parasites,  including freedom of movement then they are in for 1 big f**king shock

I now live in something akin to a 2nd world ghetto ( Northampton )  and i've had enough,

If they had any sense they would start listening to the BRITISH people and not the EU bankers.

The referendum is now history, there are now 3m new young voters and around 750k less of the old ones. If you have any interest in the current electorates view the only way to find out is another referendum

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9 minutes ago, Errol said:

The recent election vote shows overwhelming support for Brexit (in some form). Labour is pro-Brexit as are (obviously) the Conservatives.

Brexit will go ahead now, in any event.

wish i had your confidence

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2 minutes ago, Confusion of VIs said:

The referendum is now history, there are now 3m new young voters and around 750k less of the old ones. If you have any interest in the current electorates view the only way to find out is another referendum

I did not expect you to say that !!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

Are the establishment Sabotaging BrExit to suit the bankers/corporations ?

No. Within the establishment there are overlapping groups.

 

55 minutes ago, Errol said:

The recent election vote shows overwhelming support for Brexit (in some form). Labour is pro-Brexit as are (obviously) the Conservatives.

Brexit will go ahead now, in any event.

One could equally infer the electorate was not overly concerned by Brexit from the falls in support for UKIP and Lib Dems.

I don't think it's obvious either way. People may have been voting for Corbyn, for Labour in spite of Corbyn, against May, against Tory austerity, etc. Tactically or not, and so on.

It does indicate the kind of problems with voting systems and preference aggregations which have been noted by Condorcet, Kenneth Arrow, Amartya Sen etc.

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To be fair, I think the Tories have sabotaged Brexit by calling an election 11 days before the talks were due to begin.

Presumably by accident, but stopping the entire process of government for 2 months and scheduling the talks immediately after seems monumentally stupid - even if they had managed to craft a stable government out of it like most expected, we would have had a reshuffle or similar to contend with.

 

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1 hour ago, slawek said:

I am just presenting facts that your point of view is a minority, most of the people don't share it but lots do. No reason to go ballistic.

I agree the UK situation is not great but the EU has a little to do with it. There is another 800 page threat where that was discussed in details.   

Spot on. I too am sick of all kinds of things in UK, bankers, spivs, crims,  but brexit is not some kind of antibiotic which will fix everything. If anyone wants to take my freedom of movement, or any other freedom, they will find I shall not just meekly hand them over on request.

If we are merging all the threads then perhaps now is a good time to suggest Jeremy is currently looking like our last hope. 

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1 hour ago, Confusion of VIs said:

The referendum is now history, there are now 3m new young voters and around 750k less of the old ones. If you have any interest in the current electorates view the only way to find out is another referendum

Oh really...how interesting.

I presume that in your world we just keep voting until we produce a result you like, at which point is becomes the definitive verdict.

 

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1 hour ago, Confusion of VIs said:

The referendum is now history, there are now 3m new young voters and around 750k less of the old ones. If you have any interest in the current electorates view the only way to find out is another referendum

Just nonsense. On this basis, you'd be having votes and referendums every other month. Nothing would ever be settled.

Another Europe vote won't take place for at least 20-30 years. If ever.

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