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THERESA MAY TO LAUNCH WIDE-RANGING INTERNET REGULATION DESPITE NOT WINNING MAJORITY

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20 minutes ago, Fromage Frais said:

copyright protection under the guise of security?

She is dead keen so I guess someone is paying for it to be top of the list

That's an interesting thought. In the USA, the Motion Picture Association of America (and similar for the music industry) are big donors and lobbyists.

Do you think something similar is afoot here - or the even more corrupt case of news media sponsoring parties? Has anyone here trawled lists of party donors to see?

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I was reading somewhere how the movie biz was being slaughtered by the video games biz.

It said movies gave poor value compared to the 6+ hours of vids games play, which have a higher resale value as a disc if sold quickly.

They greater replayability / online community interest that movies - Twitch.com  / speed running / mmorgs etc  

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9 hours ago, Saving For a Space Ship said:

 THERESA MAY TO LAUNCH WIDE-RANGING INTERNET REGULATION AND SECURITY CHANGES DESPITE NOT WINNING MAJORITY

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/theresa-may-election-latest-internet-regulation-downing-street-speech-manifesto-a7783186.html

Once again politicians don't know how the internet works. Nothing to report basically.

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6 hours ago, Fromage Frais said:

copyright protection under the guise of security?

Where was there any mention of copyright in the article? All I can see is things about spying on everyone.

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Maybe it's all part of brexit, we could disconnect the UK from the rest of the world and have our own BRINTERNET, no need for any of that secure padlock stuff because there won't be any nasty foreign people on the network at all, what could go wrong?

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20 hours ago, Saving For a Space Ship said:

I was reading somewhere how the movie biz was being slaughtered by the video games biz.

It said movies gave poor value compared to the 6+ hours of vids games play, which have a higher resale value as a disc if sold quickly.

They greater replayability / online community interest that movies - Twitch.com  / speed running / mmorgs etc  

 

For me the movie biz is being slaughtered by churning out way too much predictable formulaic c rap and constantly re-heating old franchises.

I was extremely unimpressed by May seeming to think that one of the main priorities after the recent massacres should be to censor the internet. I assume that it's a case of never letting a good crisis go to waste, and doing a spot of shroud waving to push through some unpopular legislation while peoples feelings about the murders was running high.

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15 hours ago, knock out johnny said:

Fck me. Hasnt she got enough problems without trying to censor the internet

A deluded and stupid woman

The problem is not just May. A large number of labour politicians actively support this type of surveillance and control.

It's not clear what Corbyn's view is, but there are plenty of authoritarians among the labour party, who would love to vote for such legislation, unless whipped not to (which I doubt would actually happen).

Edited by ChumpusRex

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On 2017-6-11 at 9:14 AM, Bruce Banner said:

Hopefully she'll be gone sooner rather than later.

They establishment are loosing control and the main reason is internet communications and easily verifiable information.

This goes against everything they've known for the last 1000 years.

Rather than embracing the a new modern age and real democracy, it appears their reaction is top stamp it out and try and control everyone.  

The illusion of freedom and democracy is evaporating fast and with it peoples willingness to put up with their lies, thievery and oppression.

Been saying for a long time, there is much trouble to come in the UK.

If I were an immigrant, I'd leave

If I were Welsh, I'd go back to Wales,

If I were from Scotland, I'd go back to Scotland.

If I were the Queen, I'd go back to Germany.

Where should the Torys go....they should go to f**k.

See you all on the dark web next week :lol:

 

Edited by TheCountOfNowhere

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16 hours ago, knock out johnny said:

Fck me. Hasnt she got enough problems without trying to censor the internet

A deluded and stupid woman

They don't have to, all they need to do is arrest some poor feckers and hold them u[p as "internet terrorisms under mining demcoracy and freedom )" then have a show trial or two and execute them ( or some such draconion measure, perhaps bar them from Facebook  would be worse ).

That's how it all works.

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12 minutes ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

They establishment are loosing control and the main reason is internet communications and easily verifiable information.

This. They have lost the ability to control the narrative. Without this, they can barely control anything at all.

This is also why they hate TV stations like RT. If a well-watched channel is constantly putting out facts from a different perspective or the other (non-Western) side of arguments, then the Western powers have little ability to control and lead the narrative. It is very awkward when the truth and interesting discussions/videos contrary to the establishment narrative can be found easily with the click of a button.

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2 minutes ago, Errol said:

This. They have lost the ability to control the narrative. Without this, they can barely control anything at all.

This is also why they hate TV stations like RT. If a well-watched channel is constantly putting out facts from a different perspective or the other (non-Western) side of arguments, then the Western powers have little ability to control and lead the narrative. It is very awkward when the truth and interesting discussions/videos contrary to the establishment narrative can be found easily with the click of a button.

Spot on. 

Seriously, if any of this comes to pass, get the f**k out.

This is 1983 and I aint waiting for the inevitable.

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2 hours ago, ChumpusRex said:

The problem is not just May. A large number of labour politicians actively support this type of surveillance and control.

It's not clear what Corbyn's view is, but there are plenty of authoritarians among the labour party, who would love to vote for such legislation, unless whipped not to (which I doubt would actually happen).

May is particularly authoritarian and I have to say, sinister, when it comes to her approach to spying on the public.

But you're correct that many politicians love this sort of Orwellian surveillance for a variety of reasons - It gives them more control over the population, it can be spun to make them look 'strong' on security and get votes and most of all, big money donors in both intellectual property based business and 'homeland security solutions' like it

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19 minutes ago, sexton said:

Anyone up for trying to explain SSH, VPN etc to May?

You can expect VPNs to become illegal shortly thereafter plus use of anything that offers encryption without a state backdoor.

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Time to invest in a VPN capable router.

3 minutes ago, Sour Mash said:

You can expect VPNs to become illegal shortly thereafter plus use of anything that offers encryption without a state backdoor.

How is that going to work - the civil service is almost certainly the UKs biggest VPN user. Pretty much every public sector worker with a laptop has VPN access for working out of the office/ at home.

Edited by goldbug9999

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1 minute ago, goldbug9999 said:

Time to invest in a VPN capable router.

How is that going to work - the civil service is almost certainly the UKs biggest VPN user.

I'm talking about companies offering VPN services to the public, and the use of them.  At the very least expect fully detailed logging to be mandatory and made available on demand.

Wouldn't be surprised if companies running  private VPNs to allow their employees to remotely work are obliged to register and offer backdoors too.  'To stop terrorism' of course, certainly not so that well connected vested interests can gain massive insider info on business dealings.

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