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My family has a bit of land in the countryside, its on green belt and tried for years all sorts of attempts to get planning permission, no joy. Dont think we ever will.

 

We have permission for agriculture, and thats what a few acres are being used for, lots of fruit and nut trees.

 

If I cant get permission to build there, then what ideas are there for a hidden stealth home, it has to be completely hidden and secret, from Arial or inspectors coming in to have a nose around ever few years.

 

I was thinking about a large pit greenhouse anyway, I dont think you need permission for this as its agricutural and low impact, its not a dwelling like an ordinary greenhouse, its just a boig hole in the ground next a bund of all the earth you dug out, with a glass roof south facing.

I would love to make a big enough one to 'hide' a mobile home in there.

 

 

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A pit greenhouse large enough to hold a mobile home, and have all kinds of plants around it is easily achievable, but is it too risky to live there?

 

I want to be totally off grid, solar panels, and rainwater harvesting, and a log stove. 

 

Here are good ideas for pit greenhouses, but none have been large enough to house a full size mobile home and still leave lots of room for plants and trees inside there as well to camouflage the park home.

 

 

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18 hours ago, orin.looper said:

My family has a bit of land in the countryside, its on green belt and tried for years all sorts of attempts to get planning permission, no joy. Dont think we ever will.

 

We have permission for agriculture, and thats what a few acres are being used for, lots of fruit and nut trees.

Ask for planning permission to build something to be used to store fruit, nuts, tools etc. ? Or maybe you are worried that would draw attention.

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On 2017-5-3 at 8:16 AM, Democorruptcy said:

Ask for planning permission to build something to be used to store fruit, nuts, tools etc. ? Or maybe you are worried that would draw attention.

This is a good idea, but what if an inspector calls round unexpected and unannounced?

 

It has to be completely hidden and stealth, even from the air.

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On 2017-5-2 at 5:20 PM, sexton said:

Dig deep enough to put in a shipping container.Hide the stairs in a shed.Light pipes.

Many have tried this, they just are not strong enough, they collapse with the weight, they are not designed to be buried, they are designed to be stacked.

 

Its a good idea though, on the survival forums many ideas like this do the rounds. It sounds easy to bury and container home or a mobile home, but all sorts of problems with damp and strength.

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On 03/05/2017 at 8:16 AM, Democorruptcy said:

Ask for planning permission to build something to be used to store fruit, nuts, tools etc. ? Or maybe you are worried that would draw attention.

This is the best idea. Inspectors don't come round unless tipped off so be nice to your neighbours.


Some alternatives.

1. Get some cows, build feed-storage barns. Eat cows, live in barn.

2. Get some horses, build stables, live in it. 

3. Get large caravan for "temporary workers". Live in it.  Insulate well.

I have neighbours doing all of these approaches. Hidden caravans is the favourite. Lots of screening from the road/paths will be essential to stop people nosing around.

Ideally, start with a legal structure than change how you use it.  The worst they can they do is insist on it returning to its original (legal) use. 

I don't remember the exact rule but if you have enough acres (17?) you can build whatever you like for agricultural purposes.

If you have any existing farm buildings then there was a recent change on permitted development that allows you do convert one into a dwelling. 

 

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On 2017-5-2 at 5:20 PM, sexton said:

Dig deep enough to put in a shipping container.Hide the stairs in a shed.Light pipes.

From my brief research, burying shipping containers is not as easy as it appears

The pics above remind me of earthships

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Reinventing the Greenhouse and the Compost Heated Greenhouses

http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/12/reinventing-the-greenhouse.html

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