billybong Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, reddog said: Sorry, corrected. Meant Afghanistan or Iraq. Quite a few other countries can be added to those two although in recent times it's been those two countries most in the news for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_explosive_device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 The device(s) must have been remotely controlled if targeted at the team bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddog Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, willie said: Police in Northern Ireland live with the fear of under car bombs every day. They get callouts to people in distress who have booby traps waiting for the police. Yet the press seldom call the perpetrators terrorists. Don't want to mess up the 'peace dividend' lol!! Just pretending something isn't happening seems to be par for the course with the main stream media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, jfk said: If it is an ISIS inspired IED then it's a 'game changer' as they say. Don't think many football hooligans are capable of making IEDs. More than likely anyone who's had recent experience of living in areas like Libya/Afghanistan. Very worrying development if (as is most likely) it's an ISIS-related attack. Can't expect the biased reporting agencies to say anything else lest the general population go WTF My highlight. Even though it seems the bus was targeted it's also very doubtful that one of those Asian betting rings would stoop to using IEDs just to improve the betting odds. http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/17/world/asia/macau-dark-side/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherebee Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, billybong said: My highlight. Even though it seems the bus was targeted it's also very doubtful that one of those Asian betting rings would stoop to using IEDs just to improve the betting odds. All I have to say is CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED and then we should CENSORED CENSORED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, wherebee said: All I have to say is CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED and then we should CENSORED CENSORED. What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, DeepLurker said: I am not an explosives expert... but a brick would not leave a large round mark? More like a small hole. The round 'mark' seems to be where the advertisement foil ripped due to being stretched inwards in the middle. The rear window which has no advertisement looks more like a smashed window typically looks like. All windows also appear to be tinted, presumably with tinting foil from the inside which is why there is no hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Police are saying that Borussia had recently banned some neo-nazi groups from the stadium and that those groups had promised revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futuroid Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 It's woz the mooslims that dun it? Nope, a plot straight out of Casino Royale: Dortmund bus terror arrest: German-Russian man 'carried out attack to affect share price then blamed Muslims' http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/dortmund-bus-terror-arrest-german-russian-share-price-blamed-muslims-islamists-islamic-put-latest-a7694216.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eagle Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 In other words it's now proven that this was a false flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futuroid Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Eagle said: In other words it's now proven that this was a false flag. Yes, a false flag. But apparently for profit rather than government sponsored as would be the expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futuroid Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 39 minutes ago, hotairmail said: I'd still like to know his name and religion. "Sergej W" A good muslim name that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, hotairmail said: If you were the terrorist would you stay in the same hotel as the team if you were hoping to get away with a crime? How close was the bomb to the hotel? Hanging around anywhere near an explosion is suspicious. Staying in a hotel, not so much. As for people willing to kill for money: Quote Dudley strongly suspected Igor Sechin, Russia’s deputy prime minister and chairman of the state-owned energy company, Rosneft, for organizing a boardroom coup that led him to feel life-threatened. - Bob Dudley, Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 The bomb was literally next door to the hotel just at it left. So yes it does seem rather strange that you would plan that and then sit in your hotel room next door !! Then again maybe he got off on that. Then again if that was the case - it clearly had ****** all to do with money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherebee Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Does he have experience and expertise to build the bomb? If not, it's clearly a case of what the authorities WANT to be the story (nasty russians) rather than the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futuroid Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 20 hours ago, wherebee said: Does he have experience and expertise to build the bomb? If not, it's clearly a case of what the authorities WANT to be the story (nasty russians) rather than the truth "According to news magazine Der Spiegel, Sergej W had carried out his military service in 2008, where he worked as a electrician supporting an army medical unit. Other reports in the German press pointed out that Sergej W has completed an apprenticeship prize as a electronics technician, winning an educational prize for technical engineering in July 2015." But wait... there's more... "The suspect had first booked a room at L`Arrivée hotel, where the Dortmund team typically stays for home matches, in mid-March. He had also booked a room for the periods of 9-13 April and 16-20 April, at a stage where it was unclear whether Dortmund’s home match against Monaco would be in the first or second leg of the Champions League quarter-final. During check-in, the suspect reportedly rejected the first room offered to him because it did not have a window pointing facing the road where the explosives had been installed. His second room, in the attic, had a clear view of the location." Remote detonator, probably using line of sight to trigger a radio signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 23 hours ago, ccc said: The bomb was literally next door to the hotel just at it left. So yes it does seem rather strange that you would plan that and then sit in your hotel room next door !! Then again maybe he got off on that. Then again if that was the case - it clearly had ****** all to do with money. On the contrary, as I said above, it is much less suspicious (and therefore makes more sense) to 'hang around' in a hotel than on the street, and, again as I alluded to above, it would make perfect sense if he was using the hotel as an eye-balls-on location from which to time the explosion, which, according to your post, he may well have been able to. How else would you go about timing the explosion? Previously planted cctv cameras, which could be discovered in a sweep? Could you acquire these w/o some kind of trail? If you loitered, where would be a legitimate place to do so? I can't think of a place off the top of my head. Even if you managed to wait at a bus-stop with a line-of-site to the attack point, at the right time, would you really avoid being hauled in by security services following a trawl of public / private cctv footage? The more I think about it, the more a hotel room seems like the intelligent choice. Of course, there is one obvious flaw in using a hotel room as your hit location: how can you be sure the coach will go near your hotel? Well, there is only one way: stay in the same hotel as the coach passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nome Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Did I imagine it or did i hear something about someone being arrested for shorting Dortmund FC shares prior to the bombing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, nome said: Did I imagine it or did i hear something about someone being arrested for shorting Dortmund FC shares prior to the bombing? Not sure about that, but in other news there has been some talk in certain circles of another UK general election some time soon, but don't quote me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 14 hours ago, Sledgehead said: On the contrary, as I said above, it is much less suspicious (and therefore makes more sense) to 'hang around' in a hotel than on the street, and, again as I alluded to above, it would make perfect sense if he was using the hotel as an eye-balls-on location from which to time the explosion, which, according to your post, he may well have been able to. How else would you go about timing the explosion? Previously planted cctv cameras, which could be discovered in a sweep? Could you acquire these w/o some kind of trail? If you loitered, where would be a legitimate place to do so? I can't think of a place off the top of my head. Even if you managed to wait at a bus-stop with a line-of-site to the attack point, at the right time, would you really avoid being hauled in by security services following a trawl of public / private cctv footage? The more I think about it, the more a hotel room seems like the intelligent choice. Of course, there is one obvious flaw in using a hotel room as your hit location: how can you be sure the coach will go near your hotel? Well, there is only one way: stay in the same hotel as the coach passengers. Well clearly not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 13 hours ago, ccc said: Well clearly not Plausible deniability me 'ol fruit: he may have been arrested but it's all circumstantial evidence. The proof of the pudding is in the conviction, not the arrest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Sledgehead said: Plausible deniability me 'ol fruit: he may have been arrested but it's all circumstantial evidence. The proof of the pudding is in the conviction, not the arrest! Indeed. I think it's all rather strange to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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