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I've recently come across the same thing 3 times now - young chav lads in very expensive brand new cars. One BMW, two Mercs. Very aggressive looking car models with the black wheels etc, real in your face stuff.

Is this a new trend? Are they leasing expensive cars now?

Soon it will be a snob value / class thing not to have a new (and therefore leased) car! I'm starting to look down on people with brand new cars! Is this world getting completely scr3wed? Sorry that's my last post for the day.

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5 minutes ago, wsn03 said:

I've recently come across the same thing 3 times now - young chav lads in very expensive brand new cars. One BMW, two Mercs. Very aggressive looking car models with the black wheels etc, real in your face stuff.

Is this a new trend? Are they leasing expensive cars now?

Soon it will be a snob value / class thing not to have a new (and therefore leased) car! I'm starting to look down on people with brand new cars! Is this world getting completely scr3wed? Sorry that's my last post for the day.

If you can't afford a house you might as well buy a big motor :lol:

The BMW M4 seems to be the weapon of choice round my way... Neighbour recently bought one, sounds like a tank.  70k for a fast saloon with a body kit. Bonkers.

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I'm in the canaries for a bit of sun. People here seem to drive cars they need. I've seen one Range Rover and a handful of  mercs in a week. The uk is bonkers when it comes to  the money wasted on new cars.

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I guarantee you all that one of the next 5 cars you have tailgate you or do some shit eating driving manoeuvre will be a ******ing Audi 

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1 hour ago, Bunfight said:

If you can't afford a house you might as well buy a big motor :lol:

This. I know of someone who was saving to move out of our home town. He eventually gave up and bought a flash merc instead.

It is wikkid bruv init

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2 hours ago, wsn03 said:

 

Soon it will be a snob value / class thing not to have a new (and therefore leased) car! I'm starting to look down on people with brand new cars! Is this world getting completely scr3wed? Sorry that's my last post for the day.

Way ahead of you on that.  Two cars, nine and 15 year old.  Both still running well and all paid for.  Not for me that chucking away of a few hundred a month on shiny new baubles. 

Mind, I might change my mind if the gubberment decides to chuck three grand at us to ditch the old diesel. It will be a cash payment though for the replacement shiny new bauble. :)

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You get this a lot in Oxford with the Mini factory. The workers get very competitive lease deals including insurance which allows a lot of the youngsters to drive a new BMW for 6 months for ~£400/month.

Other than that I'd suspect young drivers of these types of vehicles are into something illegal such as drug dealing or benefit fraud. An aquaintance from my school days used to drive a brand new car (admittedly a corsa) even though he didn't have a job and wasn't from a wealthy family. I was too naive to know where he got his money from until someone pointed out he sold drugs.

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A lot of my colleagues earn 2-3 times the average salary and live champagne lifestyles but it's all for show - no common sense or planning for the future. It's nothing to do with fraud or drug dealing, just the fact they're spending 75% of their take home pay on cars, clothes and booze. I constantly hear them bragging about their latest Audi RS5s or BMW M4s, comparing what idiotic things they've done in them to piss off other road users. One guy has a CCTV system set up around his 2 bed semi with several cameras pointed at his driveway because he's on the border of a rough estate. He had enough equity to upgrade to a 3 bed in a nicer area but he remortgaged instead and bought his Mrs an Audi Q6 because they've just had a baby and he didn't want to think of her driving around in a 5 year old car whilst he was away... :rolleyes:

I'm definitely in the minority at our place having owned 4 second hand cars in my working life (I'm 32) and paying for them in cash outright, never buying anything much over a month's salary. My latest car is a 7 year old MX5 which I paid 4K for having traded in a clapped out Citroen C4. 5-10% of the price of some of the lads cars at work!

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6 hours ago, chronyx said:

I guarantee you all that one of the next 5 cars you have tailgate you or do some shit eating driving manoeuvre will be a ******ing Audi 

I have an Audi... am not (always) a terrible driver. Bought it after someone else had lost a fortune in depreciation for it though and it is a lovely car to drive. Will happily get rid of it if the money is needed for a house instead though.

I know a 30 year old who got a 3 year old Mercedes on lease only to have it taken off him after 8 months because he couldn't afford the payments despite living at home with parents... also someone else who after having a brand new BMW 4 series when their lease was up ended up owing 3k still after giving the car back. 

 

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18 hours ago, Maynardgravy said:

The uk is bonkers when it comes to  the money wasted on new cars.

Not sure it's just  a Brit thing.  I've known quite a few non Brits - some here, some at home - who would almost not eat rather than be seen driving a car like mine.  We have a non Brit-origin neighbour who I swear would sooner walk.  Self esteem so much bound up with what is sitting on the drive.  

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1 hour ago, Mrs Bear said:

Not sure it's just  a Brit thing.  I've known quite a few non Brits - some here, some at home - who would almost not eat rather than be seen driving a car like mine.  We have a non Brit-origin neighbour who I swear would sooner walk. 

Yep - certainly not just a Brit thing. India is bubbling over in consumer credit for cars & motorbikes at the moment. Full of middle class guys earning £15k who feel rich (which they are in Indian terms) borrowing 50-100% of their entire salary at 8%.

18 months ago I was driving around in a 450 quid car for a bit with enough in the bank for a few new ones. I perversely enjoyed being looked down on by the financed peasantry. 

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1 hour ago, disenfranchised said:

 

18 months ago I was driving around in a 450 quid car for a bit with enough in the bank for a few new ones. I perversely enjoyed being looked down on by the financed peasantry. 

According to my accountant i do very well, so he was always amazed by my choice of daily runaround- Fiat Seicento for a few years followed by a battered old Peugeot 106 - i was only doing low mileage. 

My lovely BMW (bought at an obscene discount) was sparred for occasional business use only and is now becoming a classic  (who'd have thought it), and ive saved so much money over the years im going to treat myself to a 10 yr old XKR Supercharged Jag as a toy.

I loved being looked down on, it gave me the biggest kick you can imagine. Now i have a respectable daily drive ( a 27k Passat i only paid 6k for at 6 yrs old..amazing car) because im doing a further commute i really do miss driving a banger. 

Btw when i do buy a decent car i always go 5 or 6 yrs old, let the suckers pay the depreciation. 

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9 hours ago, wsn03 said:

According to my accountant i do very well, so he was always amazed by my choice of daily runaround- Fiat Seicento for a few years followed by a battered old Peugeot 106 - i was only doing low mileage. 

My lovely BMW (bought at an obscene discount) was sparred for occasional business use only and is now becoming a classic  (who'd have thought it), and ive saved so much money over the years im going to treat myself to a 10 yr old XKR Supercharged Jag as a toy.

I loved being looked down on, it gave me the biggest kick you can imagine. Now i have a respectable daily drive ( a 27k Passat i only paid 6k for at 6 yrs old..amazing car) because im doing a further commute i really do miss driving a banger. 

Btw when i do buy a decent car i always go 5 or 6 yrs old, let the suckers pay the depreciation. 

I enjoy driving my new car. I can afford it, I know it will depreciate and I know roughly how much that will be over the four or five years I choose to keep it. Why does it bother you so much that's how I choose to spend my money?

What's the phrase I should use to describe you? How about inverted snob. 

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There is something magical about driving a sub £1,000 snotter car. I quite like the reverse snobbery factor too. ^_^

I had stupidly written off my 1999 SEAT just before Christmas 2009. One of the rare times it actually snowed in December. Money was tight and was out of work, I didn't want to get another car until I was at least earning again. On 1st April 2010 I bit the bullet and took possession of my dad's friend's 1994 Ford Escort 1.8 L diesel saloon for £250 (ex police car). 150,000 miles but the engine was still rock solid.Turned out not be such a 'Fool's day' car. I had to stump up an extra £122.50 for 6 month's VED. It was a surprisingly decent car for the money.

The car was pretty grubby so I spent the rent of the day valeting it. The dull white paintwork was quite shiny again and the faded grey bumpers went back to black (to quote the late Amy Winehouse). I removed the broken white wheel trims and naff front seat covers. Interior was thoroughly vacuumed and polished. Nothing like removing the traces of the former owner.

The guy I bought it from didn't drive it for 3 months due to illness. It was MOT'd the previous December by his mechanic, returned and put back into garage for 3 months. So effectively a full MOT, plus an extra bonus of half a tank of diesel. Before I took possession of it I charged the battery up at home, fitted it back on the car and it came to life.

Driving the car was an experience. As a normally aspirated diesel you put your foot on the accelerator and it was merely a 'go' switch. It was rumoured that the car never went over 40 mph with the guy I bought it from so I took it out for a 'blast' on the dual carriageway. Probably the first time in years it reached 70 mph (after a bit of coaxing)! :lol: The driver's door lock failed after 2 weeks of ownership and mushrooms started growing on the damp boot carpet. I was carrying a spare wheel well full of rainwater with me. :rolleyes:

Despite it's faults I was quite fond of that car. The driver's seat was quite comfortable. Aside from refuelling and insurance, I spent no more money on it in the nearly 6 months I owned the car.

I traded it in for my current car which was a 6 year old Nissan Almera 2.2 diesel. That turned out to be a costly lesson as I had a few big bills (a hard life on the motorway in it's early years I think). I still have the car with 95,000 miles and is now into bangernomics territory.

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My previous car got wrote off. I was amazed at the choice of cars available.  I searched for cars less thank 2k with less 50k on clock. 

In the end I got 2006 nissan almera with 45k on clock for 1900.  Should last for another 5 years easily

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15 hours ago, sleepwello'nights said:

I enjoy driving my new car. I can afford it, I know it will depreciate and I know roughly how much that will be over the four or five years I choose to keep it. Why does it bother you so much that's how I choose to spend my money?

What's the phrase I should use to describe you? How about inverted snob. 

Who said it bothered me? Enjoying being looked down on isn't being bothered by people leasing cars.

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5 hours ago, wsn03 said:

Who said it bothered me? Enjoying being looked down on isn't being bothered by people leasing cars.

I would love to have a new or newer car but I would also love to be mortgage free in uncertain world

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5 minutes ago, nnails said:

I would love to have a new or newer car but I would also love to be mortgage free in uncertain world

Same here, new cars are a very extravagant thing, don't represent much in the way of value for me

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On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 2:03 PM, wsn03 said:

I've recently come across the same thing 3 times now - young chav lads in very expensive brand new cars. One BMW, two Mercs. Very aggressive looking car models with the black wheels etc, real in your face stuff.

Is this a new trend? Are they leasing expensive cars now?

Soon it will be a snob value / class thing not to have a new (and therefore leased) car! I'm starting to look down on people with brand new cars! Is this world getting completely scr3wed? Sorry that's my last post for the day.

I'm seeing loads of new premium German marque cars driven by twenty somethings in the Midlands, especially Mercedes A classes with the AMG Sport styling, C class is popular too. BMWs are in grey man's territory so I don't see so many but they'll be there somewhere for sure... my BMW 120D  £252 a month lease comes to an end soon (mileage reached at least then it'll be parked up for six months) and I've already replaced it with a Skoda CitiGo on a PCP at £118 as I no longer see the point in driving flash cars when every tom, dick and Harry have one. My car apathy meter is at an all time high. I try to keep my monthly all up car costs below £500 down from £750 a few years previously (flash mercedes on lease).

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On 17/03/2017 at 9:23 PM, A third of everything said:

I have an Audi... am not (always) a terrible driver. Bought it after someone else had lost a fortune in depreciation for it though and it is a lovely car to drive. Will happily get rid of it if the money is needed for a house instead though.

I know a 30 year old who got a 3 year old Mercedes on lease only to have it taken off him after 8 months because he couldn't afford the payments despite living at home with parents... also someone else who after having a brand new BMW 4 series when their lease was up ended up owing 3k still after giving the car back. 

 

You didn't trade in a BMW for it did you?  ;)

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On Mon Apr 03 2017 at 5:34 PM, quinster said:

Why do you care about what cars people drive? get on and enjoy life it is too short to worry about what others do with their own money.

Im not worried, just interested to know if this is a new trend

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