happy_renting Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Don't worry folks, you can meet the new arbitrary meaningless 10-veg-portions-a-day recommendation by simply slicing your 5-a-day portions in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 They want to turn us into cabbages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 "Danger, Will Robinson! Flatulence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bossybabe said: They want to turn us into cabbages... Well you joined hpc so you're half way there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Hartman Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 If I ate that amount of veg a day I'd probably find myself divorced. Not that I'd notice as I would be permanently perched on the cludgie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 My fruit & veg intake goes down dramatically in the winter months. I think I should be hibernating. It is OK in warmer months but I just can't face a load of fruit and veg in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Other countries have recommended 9 and 10 for a long time. Has anyone posted a 10 a day menu plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
council dweller Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Quote TMT...... Yes I`m the same. No fruit and vegetables in the winter. The white mans diet....doing pretty well on it. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 I recommend that everyone should carry 10 dried peas, in case they get caught short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 An unreachable target is a pointless one, one that will be ignored. Similar the new alcohol guidelines saying that merely looking at beer could give you cancer or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Eat what you fancy..... you never know, an unhealthy diet may kill you before something worse gets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Rather condescending to suggest fruit and vegetables are cheap. These doctors probably don't go shopping, and when you are on 100k per year everything is cheap I suppose. A bag of bread flour is 75p, a bag of porridge is 50p, a bag of pasta is 35p, a bag of spinach is £1.15 you clueless fools. I am vegetarian, I do get a year's supply of blackberries and apples free so that's two. Five is probably average at best. I note spinach and apples come out tops which is encouraging. Spinach raw, is our side veg of choice. Probably best not advertise that, could get the oily fish factor. Pilchards used to be 37p a tin, now well over a quid. If the middle classes get onto spinach it will be two quid a bag.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Alonso Quijano said: An unreachable target is a pointless one, one that will be ignored. Similar the new alcohol guidelines saying that merely looking at beer could give you cancer or something. Exactly. If they said "three" then people would make a change to their diet to make sure they did get three portions of fruit or veg each and every day. They would make a point of it. By saying "ten" people just concede and stick at their one or none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 They evidently think that we've got nothing better to do than sit around all day eating fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said: Exactly. If they said "three" then people would make a change to their diet to make sure they did get three portions of fruit or veg each and every day. They would make a point of it. By saying "ten" people just concede and stick at their one or none. On a programme this morning it said that the reason ten had an effect over five was not the extra five but eating ten crowds out the bad stuff like salt. So the benefit is what goes with the territitory and what you aren't eating.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, crashmonitor said: On a programme this morning it said that the reason ten had an effect over five was not the extra five but eating ten crowds out the bad stuff like salt. So the benefit is what goes with the territitory and what you aren't eating.  They don't really know that though do they? That sounds as grounded in actual knowledge as the decades of lecturing us about having a low fat diet. Nutrition seems as much a psuedo-science as homeopathy and reflexology. For example I get night cramps if I don't get enough salt, which happens every few weeks as I don't eat crisps or much processed food, so I don't think it's bad for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMartinSanchez Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 The 5-a-day campaign was introduced in 2003. Does that means the recommendation doubles every 14 years? Eat your vegetables now before you miss the boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, crashmonitor said: Rather condescending to suggest fruit and vegetables are cheap. These doctors probably don't go shopping, and when you are on 100k per year everything is cheap I suppose. A bag of bread flour is 75p, a bag of porridge is 50p, a bag of pasta is 35p, a bag of spinach is £1.15 you clueless fools. Carrots, onions, spuds (which apparently don't count) all seem to be pretty cheap, to the point where the economics of growing them don't seem to make much sense. Haven't bought a cabbage for a while or bag of frozen peas (they last me for ages). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This time Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said: They don't really know that though do they? That sounds as grounded in actual knowledge as the decades of lecturing us about having a low fat diet. Nutrition seems as much a psuedo-science as homeopathy and reflexology. For example I get night cramps if I don't get enough salt, which happens every few weeks as I don't eat crisps or much processed food, so I don't think it's bad for me. They tell us to drink loads of water and then tell us that salt should be kept to the barest minimum - recipe for salt imbalance. Only a tiny percentage of people need to limit their salt due to hypersensitivity. The current advice on salt is just as wrong as the advice about carbohydrates and saturated fat has been for the last 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Allegro Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, crashmonitor said: Rather condescending to suggest fruit and vegetables are cheap. These doctors probably don't go shopping, and when you are on 100k per year everything is cheap I suppose. A bag of bread flour is 75p, a bag of porridge is 50p, a bag of pasta is 35p, a bag of spinach is £1.15 you clueless fools. I am vegetarian, I do get a year's supply of blackberries and apples free so that's two. Five is probably average at best. I note spinach and apples come out tops which is encouraging. Spinach raw, is our side veg of choice. Probably best not advertise that, could get the oily fish factor. Pilchards used to be 37p a tin, now well over a quid. If the middle classes get onto spinach it will be two quid a bag.  One of those big bags of frozen veg from the supermarket costs about a pound, and does me for about a week. Other fruit and veg is home grown or foraged, or marked down at the supermarket. Eg a cabbage is about 35p at the end of the day at the Co-Op, and lasts for ages. I am regularly shocked at the price of fruit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This time Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Riedquat said: Carrots, onions, spuds (which apparently don't count) all seem to be pretty cheap, to the point where the economics of growing them don't seem to make much sense. Haven't bought a cabbage for a while or bag of frozen peas (they last me for ages). Spuds count in countries that don't eat a lot of them - they don't count here because people would get most of their 5 a day from crisps and chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, This time said: Spuds count in countries that don't eat a lot of them - they don't count here because people would get most of their 5 a day from crisps and chips. Perhaps I should've also mentioned that they'll cost more to people who insist on avoiding the degrading hardship of having to put them in a bag themselves and wash and peel them before cooking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 What a stupid instruction, a confusing, idiotic instruction, ten of what, ten grapes, ten cabbages? ten leaves of a lettuce or curly kale...I know, ten blueberries, they are good or six peas a carrot and whatever on top of a pizza......ignore the lot and use own common sense because most people who tell you what you should be doing are stupid, and they talk to others as if they are stupid.....the blind leading the blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Fruit bats are worried about possible shortages.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, hotairmail said: Is it ten a day because we have 10 fingers? Fish fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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