OnionTerror Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 After getting more paranoid about the interweb, and my incessent investigations of looking at pictures of horses and shoe horns, I'm looking at using a good, stable VPN. PrivateInternetAccess seems to get a good write-up, and at $40 a year, it seems reasonable...Is there anyone else thats better? http://uk.pcmag.com/private-internet-access-vpn/4483/review/private-internet-access-vpn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Montecristo said: Opera browser. Free inbuilt vpn. Apparently its not as secure as it should be... https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4fuyxf/operas_new_baked_in_vpn_is_not_a_good_solution/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 NordVPN have a deal on - 2 years for $79. Seems a good price to me. They are Panama registered so, in theory, there is no way that a third party company can demand your info from them. I suspect it is not that easy, especially as they have servers located in numerous Western countries. Discount code at below url: https://nordvpn.com/special/2y-deal/?nvpqt=bnz&gclid=Cj0KEQiAuJXFBRDirIGnpZLE-N4BEiQAqV0KGgtAe_hWgUgmSTf2it8oQLz5_AvN2NLoV2qZkFVaCAEaAlju8P8HAQ They have a 3 day trial option: https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/208084455-Do-you-offer-a-free-trial- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thombleached Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I use vyprvpn had it for 2 years and it's never failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomMonger Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Do you need to put the vpn on the router or will it work the same on a device such as laptop or firestick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbon Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, GloomMonger said: Do you need to put the vpn on the router or will it work the same on a device such as laptop or firestick? No idea about the firestick (would work if you added the vpn config to the router). You can get clients for laptops/desktops e.g. openvpn for linux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheMan Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 59 minutes ago, Dave Beans said: After getting more paranoid about the interweb, and my incessent investigations of looking at pictures of horses and shoe horns, I'm looking at using a good, stable VPN. PrivateInternetAccess seems to get a good write-up, and at $40 a year, it seems reasonable...Is there anyone else thats better? http://uk.pcmag.com/private-internet-access-vpn/4483/review/private-internet-access-vpn Signed in after a long hiatus just to say I do NOT recommended PIA. Had it 3 months, it often fails to connect at all, and when it does it's usually very slow. End up turning it off 9 times out of ten. Seems to have a lot of positive reviews but my experience has been poor. Must remember to cancel.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 42 minutes ago, thombleached said: I use vyprvpn had it for 2 years and it's never failed. I would go with this recommendation. Sounds good. They appear to have a good global reach of servers also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neon tetra Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Astrill VPN in China. Been pretty good. When it gets blocked, they (fairly swiftly) find another server. I have it on the router for simplicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The XYY Man Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 But surely if you "hide" behind a VPN - the powers that be will assume that you are doing something dodgy, and do you for it anyway..? The "no smoke without fire" argument seems a very powerful strategy for the prosecuting lawyers these days... XYY The dog's kennel is not the place to keep a sausage - Danish proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honkydonkey Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I've setup a vpn on a vps I rent in holland for 15 euros a year. I've then subnetted the house so tv etc doesn't go over it so I can use iplayer and my router is permanently connected to the vpn. Its a good solution but requires a bit of know how. Renting a vpn means I'm not on a heavy utilised server with tons of other people. I'd get full speed but the OpenVPN client on the router maxes out around 45mbs. Get Dutch adverts when surfing YouTube etc when they can't be blocked. Also have a lifetime PureVPN subscription. Can get it from stacksocial for $60 odd. Works fine, but not 100% which is required for permanent connections imho. Would be fine for you. Can give you my affiliate link so we both get $10 https://stacksocial.com/?rid=2694056 there are cheaper lifetime deals there, but they're noddy nobodies likely to disappear. PureVPN is well known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 Hmmm... https://www.goldenfrog.com/blog/myths-about-vpn-logging-and-anonymity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honkydonkey Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dave Beans said: Hmmm... https://www.goldenfrog.com/blog/myths-about-vpn-logging-and-anonymity This is about privacy and making a stand against mass data collection. If the government really wanted to target you then there's probably not much you can do about it. A few hundred thousand people using vpns will give them a much deserved headache and problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, honkydonkey said: This is about privacy and making a stand against mass data collection. If the government really wanted to target you then there's probably not much you can do about it. A few hundred thousand people using vpns will give them a much deserved headache and problem. They claim that they do not log any website you visit...its the IP address you've been allocated, the amount of data you've downloaded, and so on..Its the other party to prove that you did X,Y, Z...If the IP address matches & data downloaded equals the size of a file called "Big Hairy Hemorrhoids"...could they prove that you actually downloaded that file without forensically inspecting your machine? They wouldn't bother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgul Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 4 hours ago, The XYY Man said: But surely if you "hide" behind a VPN - the powers that be will assume that you are doing something dodgy, and do you for it anyway..? The "no smoke without fire" argument seems a very powerful strategy for the prosecuting lawyers these days... XYY The dog's kennel is not the place to keep a sausage - Danish proverb IMO that was a fair-enough argument up to about 12 months ago, but with the investigatory powers bill (aka snoopers' charter) there is (IMO) a massive intrusion of privacy that the Stasi would have given their right arm for. Having a VPN is a reasonable reaction. 56 minutes ago, Dave Beans said: They claim that they do not log any website you visit...its the IP address you've been allocated, the amount of data you've downloaded, and so on..Its the other party to prove that you did X,Y, Z...If the IP address matches & data downloaded equals the size of a file called "Big Hairy Hemorrhoids"...could they prove that you actually downloaded that file without forensically inspecting your machine? They wouldn't bother... They absolutely do log every website you visit, if not the actual data transferred. The problem is the sort of data mining that they could do. I don't have that much of a problem with traditional investigative work, but the data mining is much more insidious. Perhaps you've visited a website also visited by some terrorist cell in the local city -- maybe they were all coincidentally interested in house price corrections in the UK -- you'll be on a data mining list, to look into your activities more closely. Then there is the reach of the law -- 'it is all about catching terrorists' -- in which case, why does the Food Standards Agency have the right to go data-mining to see what you're up to? Or maybe there are particular risks to do with privacy -- what about every civil servant, particularly those in higher positions... They might be at risk of being blackmailed by the Russians -- so, lets check their activity to make sure they're not secretly gay, because that would increase the risk of blackmail. And then there is data security -- the databases aren't being run by the security services (which I'd accept would probably be at least fairly secure) but by the internet companies, with the requirement (under law) to release data to selected government bodies (including the Welsh Ambulance Service). And we know how cr*p they are at holding sensitive data. So maybe someone will hack the database, and find out that you've looked at gay porn, or bought some drugs online, or secretly read blogs by UKIP whilst being a member of the Socialist Workers Party -- and think maybe that's worthy of a bit of extortion. It is an immense intrusion into privacy that wouldn't be accepted in the physical world. IMO it contravenes Article 12 of the UN universal declaration of human rights (regarding the right to privacy), as accepted by the UK in 1948. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 13 hours ago, honkydonkey said: I've setup a vpn on a vps I rent in holland for 15 euros a year. I've then subnetted the house so tv etc doesn't go over it so I can use iplayer and my router is permanently connected to the vpn. Its a good solution but requires a bit of know how. Renting a vpn means I'm not on a heavy utilised server with tons of other people. I'd get full speed but the OpenVPN client on the router maxes out around 45mbs. Get Dutch adverts when surfing YouTube etc when they can't be blocked. Also have a lifetime PureVPN subscription. Can get it from stacksocial for $60 odd. Works fine, but not 100% which is required for permanent connections imho. Would be fine for you. Can give you my affiliate link so we both get $10 https://stacksocial.com/?rid=2694056 there are cheaper lifetime deals there, but they're noddy nobodies likely to disappear. PureVPN is well known. Hah! Just downloaded and installed Opera, switched the VPN on, and now all ads, when Ghostery doesn't snaffle them, are in Dutch. May see where other servers lie, but its not unbearable really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoperational Bumblebee Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Mullvad. No email address required, no logging, and can pay with Bitcoin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Montecristo said: Have you ticked the block ads option under settings? Will check. I've only seen them on FB and Twitter. I have ads blocked via Ghostery for one thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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