Will! Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I was almost run over by some old boy on a bicycle running a red light on the mean streets of Cambridge the other day. This got me thinking, should those cycling on the road have to have registration numbers and insurance like other road users? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 No, because the next step would be shoe insurance for pedestrians, and having your NI number tattooed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Apple Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 You should definitely split this vote: I'm a cyclist, so No. I'm not a cyclist, so Yes. Other options not required As has been covered over and over though, cyclists generally do have insurance! Its covered under all but the most bare bones household policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Should pedestrians have insurance and licence plates too? They can cause accidents too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I fully agree with you, but prepare to be savaged by the MAMILs on this forum, who think footpaths and roads were built exclusively for cyclists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewingGrass Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 So you want to financialise the last remaining 'free' means of transport. You should be banned from this site. It will be walking next, particularly dangerous in central London, everyone would have to carry a number plate and be insured, even children, presumably the homeless would also be banned from the street for not having any insurance or permanent address for fines/summonses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 They are incredibly aggressive towards people on foot in central London. As I leave work, there is a road with a cycle lane to one side. A zebra crossing going across both the road and cycle lane. They refuse to stop for pedestrians and I've nearly been taken out on a number of occasions. out in the 'burbs, they ride on the paths and don't even try to venture into Epping forest. There is one particular tool, looks like a school teacher to me. Comes up behind ON THE PAVEMENT and rings his bell to instruct to get out of his way. i would go further than insurance and registration and either ban them or have a shoot on sight policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will! Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 It is possible to do rather more damage cycling into someone than walking into them. DOI: I walk and cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bossybabe said: I fully agree with you, but prepare to be savaged by the MAMILs on this forum, who think footpaths and roads were built exclusively for cyclists... Just tax Lycra then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewingGrass Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, One-percent said: They are incredibly aggressive towards people on foot in central London. As I leave work, there is a road with a cycle lane to one side. A zebra crossing going across both the road and cycle lane. They refuse to stop for pedestrians and I've nearly been taken out on a number of occasions. out in the 'burbs, they ride on the paths and don't even try to venture into Epping forest. There is one particular tool, looks like a school teacher to me. Comes up behind ON THE PAVEMENT and rings his bell to instruct to get out of his way. i would go further than insurance and registration and either ban them or have a shoot on sight policy. Thats probably more of a symptom of having too many people in too small a space, epping forest included. Humans are reasonably social in small towns and villages, urban cess-pits like London are a different kettle of fish, expect it to get worse and more tense in the 21st century. Your last sentence confirms that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Apple Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, One-percent said: They are incredibly aggressive towards people on foot in central London. As I leave work, there is a road with a cycle lane to one side. A zebra crossing going across both the road and cycle lane. They refuse to stop for pedestrians and I've nearly been taken out on a number of occasions. out in the 'burbs, they ride on the paths and don't even try to venture into Epping forest. There is one particular tool, looks like a school teacher to me. Comes up behind ON THE PAVEMENT and rings his bell to instruct to get out of his way. i would go further than insurance and registration and either ban them or have a shoot on sight policy. Londons shit. I never use pavements or paths save for one "shared" area where I slow to a crawl as its a short cut that avoids a bad junction, they are too slow generally. I will admit to a few reds I will ignore, both are left turns and have no pedestrian facilities. It allows me to get far enough away from the chaos when the lights go green and the lanes merge, everyone looks in their mirrors instead of in front. Oh and bus lanes... the detectors don't pick up bikes to change the lights, so you jump the red or merge across a solid white... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Just now, ChewingGrass said: Thats probably more of a symptom of having too many people in too small a space, epping forest included. Humans are reasonably social in small towns and villages, urban cess-pits like London are a different kettle of fish, expect it to get worse and more tense in the 21st century. Your last sentence confirms that. Hardly anyone actually uses Epping forest. Honestly. The woods in North Yorkshire have far more many people tramping around in them. It's more to do with getting on a bike seems to change the psyche of an individual and they feel that the rules do not apply to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Northern Welsh Midlander said: Londons shit. I never use pavements or paths save for one "shared" area where I slow to a crawl as its a short cut that avoids a bad junction, they are too slow generally. I will admit to a few reds I will ignore, both are left turns and have no pedestrian facilities. It allows me to get far enough away from the chaos when the lights go green and the lanes merge, everyone looks in their mirrors instead of in front. Oh and bus lanes... the detectors don't pick up bikes to change the lights, so you jump the red or merge across a solid white... You are one of the good ones then. i keep trying to upload a picture too show how nice parts of London are but the software says no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewingGrass Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Stressed out individuals from the city subconsciuosly craving freedom from the constant regulation of Gotham-on-Thames by letting off steam in the 'wilderness', the same folks probably think 'centre parcs' roughing it in the wilds as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Sure, there seem to be a lot of problem cyclists but I really don't want to go further down the path of not even being allowed to go for a sh1t without government registration, approval, and compulsory safety measures, so a definite "no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 London is a strange crowded place, where a polite "Good Morning" is interpreted as weirdness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewingGrass Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 minute ago, MrPin said: London is a strange crowded place, where a polite "Good Morning" is interpreted as weirdness. Agreed, London is the most subconsciously anti-social place in the UK, a continuous undercurrent that is most noticably if you come in from outside, for most Londoners its normal. I've also noticed that a lot of Londoners struggle to interact socially and in the work environment when they move out into the shires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitevanman Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, happy_renting said: Just tax Lycra then. I can't picture Jane Fonda's "Feel the Burn" workout without the lycra jumpsuits. The 80s might never have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Pessimist Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Government regulations make things worse. QED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainlessSteelCat Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 "They" include me. Cyclists are a diverse bunch - good and bad 'uns. Frankly, pedestrians are the same. Had two walk out straight off a kerb without even looking the other day. It was only my quick reaction that stopped me hitting one of them. I can't get angry about it though, London is very stressful place and everyone's mind wanders/makes a bad choice sometimes. Thankfully, as far as pedestrians and cyclists are concerned it's very unlikely to be a life changing one. I agree with our grass chewing friend, let's not make one of the most efficient means of transportation known to man more difficult to access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, MrPin said: London is a strange crowded place, where a polite "Good Morning" is interpreted as weirdness. It is weird, very weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, ChewingGrass said: Agreed, London is the most subconsciously anti-social place in the UK, a continuous undercurrent that is most noticably if you come in from outside, for most Londoners its normal. I've also noticed that a lot of Londoners struggle to interact socially and in the work environment when they move out into the shires. I walk my dog with some cockernies every morning. Salt of the earth, will help you out. Genuine people honest. When we moved into our house, we had neighbours knocking and asking if we needed anything. In our street, we all look out for each other and one particular guy who is a tube driver knows everything that is going on and makes it his business to question anyone who looks a bit dodgy. He was brought up,in Tottenham though. I think most of those 'londoners' who are rude are really incomers. I can say this as an incomer to London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economic Exile Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I've voted no because there is no overcrowding in this region and cyclists are never a problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntb Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 No. For reasons of freedom and liberty. But I would like them to be a bit more considerate, take the trouble to indicate and use lights at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewingGrass Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Economic Exile said: I've voted no because there is no overcrowding in this region and cyclists are never a problem here. Spot on, its purely a London problem, no complaints in Manchester and Glasgow etc, then again it pisses down all the time up here so all the cyclists die of pneumonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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