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Should cyclists have to have registration numbers and insurance?

Should cyclists have to have registration numbers and insurance?  

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  1. 1. Should cyclists have to have registration numbers and insurance?

    • Yes
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I was almost run over by some old boy on a bicycle running a red light on the mean streets of Cambridge the other day.  This got me thinking, should those cycling on the road have to have registration numbers and insurance like other road users?

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No, because the next step would be shoe insurance for pedestrians, and having your NI number tattooed on.

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You should definitely split this vote:

I'm a cyclist, so No.

I'm not a cyclist, so Yes.

Other options not required :)

As has been covered over and over though, cyclists generally do have insurance! Its covered under all but the most bare bones household policies.

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I fully agree with you, but prepare to be savaged by the MAMILs on this forum, who think footpaths and roads were built exclusively for cyclists...

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So you want to financialise the last remaining 'free' means of transport. You should be banned from this site. It will be walking next, particularly dangerous in central London, everyone would have to carry a number plate and be insured, even children, presumably the homeless would also be banned from the street for not having any insurance or permanent address for fines/summonses.

 

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They are incredibly aggressive towards people on foot in central London. As I leave work, there is a road with a cycle lane to one side. A zebra crossing going across both the road and cycle lane. They refuse to stop for pedestrians and I've nearly been taken out on a number of occasions.

out in the 'burbs, they ride on the paths and don't even try to venture into Epping forest.  There is one particular tool, looks like a school teacher to me.  Comes up behind ON THE PAVEMENT and rings his bell to instruct to get out of his way.

i would go further than insurance and registration and either ban them or have a shoot on sight policy. 

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It is possible to do rather more damage cycling into someone than walking into them.

DOI:  I walk and cycle.

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8 minutes ago, Bossybabe said:

I fully agree with you, but prepare to be savaged by the MAMILs on this forum, who think footpaths and roads were built exclusively for cyclists...

Just tax Lycra then.

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2 minutes ago, One-percent said:

They are incredibly aggressive towards people on foot in central London. As I leave work, there is a road with a cycle lane to one side. A zebra crossing going across both the road and cycle lane. They refuse to stop for pedestrians and I've nearly been taken out on a number of occasions.

out in the 'burbs, they ride on the paths and don't even try to venture into Epping forest.  There is one particular tool, looks like a school teacher to me.  Comes up behind ON THE PAVEMENT and rings his bell to instruct to get out of his way.

i would go further than insurance and registration and either ban them or have a shoot on sight policy. 

Thats probably more of a symptom of having too many people in too small a space, epping forest included. Humans are reasonably social in small towns and villages, urban cess-pits like London are a different kettle of fish, expect it to get worse and more tense in the 21st century. Your last sentence confirms that.

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4 minutes ago, One-percent said:

They are incredibly aggressive towards people on foot in central London. As I leave work, there is a road with a cycle lane to one side. A zebra crossing going across both the road and cycle lane. They refuse to stop for pedestrians and I've nearly been taken out on a number of occasions.

out in the 'burbs, they ride on the paths and don't even try to venture into Epping forest.  There is one particular tool, looks like a school teacher to me.  Comes up behind ON THE PAVEMENT and rings his bell to instruct to get out of his way.

i would go further than insurance and registration and either ban them or have a shoot on sight policy. 

Londons shit.

I never use pavements or paths save for one "shared" area where I slow to a crawl as its a short cut that avoids a bad junction, they are too slow generally.

I will admit to a few reds I will ignore, both are left turns and have no pedestrian facilities. It allows me to get far enough away from the chaos when the lights go green and the lanes merge, everyone looks in their mirrors instead of in front. Oh and bus lanes... the detectors don't pick up bikes to change the lights, so you jump the red or merge across a solid white...

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Just now, ChewingGrass said:

Thats probably more of a symptom of having too many people in too small a space, epping forest included. Humans are reasonably social in small towns and villages, urban cess-pits like London are a different kettle of fish, expect it to get worse and more tense in the 21st century. Your last sentence confirms that.

Hardly anyone actually uses Epping forest. Honestly.  The woods in North Yorkshire have far more many people tramping around in them. 

It's more to do with getting on a bike seems to change the psyche of an individual and they feel that the rules do not apply to them 

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2 minutes ago, Northern Welsh Midlander said:

Londons shit.

I never use pavements or paths save for one "shared" area where I slow to a crawl as its a short cut that avoids a bad junction, they are too slow generally.

I will admit to a few reds I will ignore, both are left turns and have no pedestrian facilities. It allows me to get far enough away from the chaos when the lights go green and the lanes merge, everyone looks in their mirrors instead of in front. Oh and bus lanes... the detectors don't pick up bikes to change the lights, so you jump the red or merge across a solid white...

You are one of the good ones then.

i keep trying to upload a picture too show how nice parts of London are but the software says no.

 

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Stressed out individuals from the city subconsciuosly craving freedom from the constant regulation of Gotham-on-Thames by letting off steam in the 'wilderness', the same folks probably think 'centre parcs' roughing it in the wilds as well.

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Sure, there seem to be a lot of problem cyclists but I really don't want to go further down the path of not even being allowed to go for a sh1t without government registration, approval, and compulsory safety measures, so a definite "no."

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London is a strange crowded place, where a polite "Good Morning" is interpreted as weirdness.:o

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1 minute ago, MrPin said:

London is a strange crowded place, where a polite "Good Morning" is interpreted as weirdness.:o

Agreed, London is the most subconsciously anti-social place in the UK, a continuous undercurrent that is most noticably if you come in from outside, for most Londoners its normal. I've also noticed that a lot of Londoners struggle to interact socially and in the work environment when they move out into the shires.

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"They" include me. Cyclists are a diverse bunch - good and bad 'uns.  Frankly, pedestrians are the same. Had two walk out straight off a kerb without even looking the other day. It was only my quick reaction that stopped me hitting one of them. I can't get angry about it though, London is very stressful place and everyone's mind wanders/makes a bad choice sometimes. Thankfully, as far as pedestrians and cyclists are concerned it's very unlikely to be a life changing one. 

I agree with our grass chewing friend, let's not make one of the most efficient means of transportation known to man more difficult to access. 

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9 minutes ago, ChewingGrass said:

Agreed, London is the most subconsciously anti-social place in the UK, a continuous undercurrent that is most noticably if you come in from outside, for most Londoners its normal. I've also noticed that a lot of Londoners struggle to interact socially and in the work environment when they move out into the shires.

I walk my dog with some cockernies every morning. Salt of the earth, will help you out.  Genuine people honest. When we moved into our house, we had neighbours knocking and asking if we needed anything. In our street, we all look out for each other and one particular guy who is a tube driver knows everything that is going on and makes it his business to question anyone who looks a bit dodgy.  He was brought up,in Tottenham though. 

I think most of those 'londoners' who are rude are really incomers. I can say this as an incomer to London. 

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No. For reasons of freedom and liberty. But I would like them to be a bit more considerate, take the trouble to indicate and use lights at night.

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3 minutes ago, Economic Exile said:

I've voted no because there is no overcrowding in this region and cyclists are never a problem here.

 

Spot on, its purely a London problem, no complaints in Manchester and Glasgow etc, then again it pisses down all the time up here so all the cyclists die of pneumonia.

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