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Do it scunnered, join my serried legions of inconsequential wasters without whose posts the forum is so much improved:

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2 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

Do it scunnered, join my serried legions of inconsequential wasters without whose posts the forum is so much improved:

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A true snowflake.

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1 hour ago, Frank Hovis said:

Do it scunnered, join my serried legions of inconsequential wasters without whose posts the forum is so much improved:

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FYI, You're only actively ignoring about a third of those. The others are long gone, either drifted off or banned.

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7 minutes ago, SpectrumFX said:

FYI, You're only actively ignoring about a third of those. The others are long gone, either drifted off or banned.

Don't stop him signalling virtue.

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I don't have anyone in an ignore list.

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6 hours ago, SpectrumFX said:

FYI, You're only actively ignoring about a third of those. The others are long gone, either drifted off or banned.

I'm aware of that, it's like a history of HPC Off Topic trolls over the years.

6 hours ago, hotairmail said:

I could have a completely different list to that Frank and could have an entirely different experience of the same forum. I began to think, who do you see? Happy Renting - what on earth has he done? You will have missed his stealth camper van, toc-h lamp and everyfink. (I suspect the camper van is so he can take his lamp out to Syria and provide succour to the troops)

 

I actually don't have anyone on ignore, not even Venger. ;) I just sail past their posts as they confirm they've not changed.

Happy Renting hasn't done anything; it's more that I see a new post in a topic and go to read it only to find that it's yet another one liner from HR rather than an interesting post. After reading several thousand of these I decided that I'd read enough.

The Toc H lamp gag was funny about twice; but then got endlessly recycled.

 

The Ignore List is IMO a useful tool to improve the forum. If a poster is relentlessly negative, pointless, or out and out trolling then instead of having to remember who not to bother reading I can just have their posts filtered out leaving only the interesting or actually funny ones, which is still 99% of the active posters.

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What a strange thread.

Who is Mr bannon anyway? Or did I miss something.

*Shuffles off to Google it...

 

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5 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

I'm aware of that, it's like a history of HPC Off Topic trolls over the years.

Happy Renting hasn't done anything; it's more that I see a new post in a topic and go to read it only to find that it's yet another one liner from HR rather than an interesting post. After reading several thousand of these I decided that I'd read enough.

The Toc H lamp gag was funny about twice; but then got endlessly recycled.

 

The Ignore List is IMO a useful tool to improve the forum. If a poster is relentlessly negative, pointless, or out and out trolling then instead of having to remember who not to bother reading I can just have their posts filtered out leaving only the interesting or actually funny ones, which is still 99% of the active posters.

No-one is obliged to read anything I write so if they choose to block me that's their call. I expect others have blocked me too.

As for one-liners, I mostly post in OT nowadays (as the wait for the HPC is a long game), so light-hearted comments are not out of place and I like to believe that I occasionally manage something succinct and pithy.

Sometimes it's the long-winded posts that annoy me.

I can't be bothered to block anyone. Even trolls say something interesting occasionally and I would hate to create my own forum echo chamber of only the people who agree with me all the time.

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1 minute ago, happy_renting said:

No-one is obliged to read anything I write so if they choose to block me that's their call. I expect others have blocked me too.

As for one-liners, I mostly post in OT nowadays (as the wait for the HPC is a long game), so light-hearted comments are not out of place and I like to believe that I occasionally manage something succinct and pithy.

Sometimes it's the long-winded posts that annoy me.

I can't be bothered to block anyone. Even trolls say something interesting occasionally and I would hate to create my own forum echo chamber of only the people who agree with me all the time.

You don't need to defend yourself HR, you're certainly not a troll or a WuM.

Although personally I do like my echo chamber when the alternative is to attempt debate with people who are purely there to troll.  Which isn't you.

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10 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

You don't need to defend yourself HR, you're certainly not a troll or a WuM.

Although personally I do like my echo chamber when the alternative is to attempt debate with people who are purely there to troll.  Which isn't you.

Ha! So you haven't blocked me! ;)

Though you did class me as an 'inconsequential waster without whose posts the forum is so much improved'. (You're probably right)

Block MrPin instead. He's pure evil.

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I have a grand total of one ignored user, King Stromba..... can't remember why I set him to ignore, but he must have been bad to make my sh1t list!

Don't see the point in setting someone to ignore using the forum software when I'm perfectly capable of ignoring someone myself.

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2 minutes ago, happy_renting said:

Ha! So you haven't blocked me! ;)

Though you did class me as an 'inconsequential waster without whose posts the forum is so much improved'. (You're probably right)

Block MrPin instead. He's pure evil.

I can't.  He's local and would track me down if I did.

Go on then, off the list.  I feel a bit guilty about revealing your being on it.

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I'm another who has missed this Bannon ? He must have blocked me cheeky bugger !!

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9 minutes ago, ccc said:

I'm another who has missed this Bannon ? He must have blocked me cheeky bugger !!

That was pretty much my objection to the OP, and similar ones, no link, no explanation, no summary, no stating of the OP's position on this.

It's on a par with the "six cans of Pepsi and a PS4" threads IMO.

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7 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

That was pretty much my objection to the OP, and similar ones, no link, no explanation, no summary, no stating of the OP's position on this.

It's on a par with the "six cans of Pepsi and a PS4" threads IMO.

He's fairly famous, and the subject of much political contention in the US at the moment. He was running Breitbart, but resigned to become Trump's senior advisor. According to the Guardianistas he is either the de-facto head of the KKK, or "literally Hitler". He describes himself: "I'm not a white nationalist. I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist". 

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1 minute ago, Hail the Tripod said:

He's fairly famous, and the subject of much political contention in the US at the moment. He was running Breitbart, but resigned to become Trump's senior advisor. According to the Guardianistas he is either the de-facto head of the KKK, or "literally Hitler". He describes himself: "I'm not a white nationalist. I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist". 

Yes, I knew who was; there was a big feature on Breitbart on R4 a couple of weeks ago, and surprisingly balanced too so probably came from the documentary team rather then the newsroom.  It is however common courtesy when starting a thread to put some information or links up and to offer your own viewpoint before asking for those of others.

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On 2/7/2017 at 9:28 PM, hotairmail said:

I could have a completely different list to that Frank and could have an entirely different experience of the same forum. I began to think, who do you see? Happy Renting - what on earth has he done? You will have missed his stealth camper van, toc-h lamp and everyfink. (I suspect the camper van is so he can take his lamp out to Syria and provide succour to the troops)

 

I actually don't have anyone on ignore, not even Venger. ;)I just sail past their posts as they confirm they've not changed.

 

And you're still making cowardly dig posts eh @hotairmail that project you as the superior knowledge guy? :lol:

You've not changed either it seems.

I loved the strop your throw about BTLers having been suckered into the housing market (2016 after S24 announced and SDLT surcharge), when just pre Section24, into 2014, you were claiming good time to buy, and explaining big ripple times to come.

That's just hilarious.
 
Now some big-bad (banks etc?) has engineered a stampede into BTL?
 
No; individuals danced into it, under their own free-will, and their own market decisions.
 
All the information out there.....?  The search for innocence is it now?  Take ownership of your own BTLing/buying decisions.   I take ownership of my financial choices and I don't regret not following your wisdom of buying in 2014.... when BANG, Section24 announced in 2015, and set to find out many a BTLer who had been on the double-down.... some of who no doubt had been following one of the financial gurus/bloggers that you follow.

On 4/30/2016 at 11:23 AM, hotairmail said:

I love the way they managed to engineer a buying stampede of BTL landlords to avoid stamp duty rises even as the other changes make many of the BTL's unprofitable.

Surely, with all the information out there, that is the clearest sign that many of these people are not really very bright but have, to date, been exceptionally lucky.

Oh the "confidence of ignorance".

EDIT: Great stuff FT, as ever.

 

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2014

On 7/4/2014 at 11:00 AM, hotairmail said:

I think you are wrong.

Even as London softens, a torrent of devalued money will ripple out to the rest of the country over the next couple of years as Londoners take their ill gotten gains and buy desirable homes all over the rest of the country - something they would never have been able to afford to do by doing an honest day's work.

Let me tell you, as the Walayat states, this is (still) about as good a time to be buying in this particular cycle in the regions as you are likely to witness. Although it may not be the exact sweet spot, I think if you are able to buy somewhere nice and are desperate to settle down for a period, you should take the plunge as many hpcers have already done. If you cannot do so, I'm sorry to tell you but things are about to get a whole lot worse for you.

It's not right. The whole thing makes me angry and cynical about the political process....but it is what it is and to deny it would be just wrong.

EDIT: I should add that I rent and seek to pay that rent by gambling money on the fake financial markets that would otherwise be used to buy a house. I do not intend to change that position in the near future. Everyone to their own.

 

On 7/22/2014 at 10:48 PM, hotairmail said:

Thanks. He's getting out of stocks and into housing. He is in Sheffield so the timing will probably be right as a torrent of devalued money created in London arrives there.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article46535.html

 

On 7/11/2014 at 8:26 PM, hotairmail said:

I try to draw a distinction between 'should' and 'is'. Between 'justice' and 'what should I do'.

It is my opinion, and only my opinion, that a wall of money will shortly be noticably exiting the London housing market to other areas of the UK and has probably already started.

I am not buying because my personal circumstances do not dictate presently. And for personal mores, I would never entertain Buy-to-let.

Please do not take this as an attempt to advise nor encourage people to buy. I am but one voice in the hive mind that enables people to make their own, as far as is possible, informed decsions about how they should approach their personal circumstances.

 

On 9/18/2014 at 10:53 AM, hotairmail said:

I used to think like you but I've come down the other way now. People have little choice. They are not as obsessed and knowledgable as people here. They are basically being driven into a corner. Either suffer the travails of amateur landlords and short term tenancies or buy an outpriced home.

For many who want stability for their young families they feel they have no choice.

Now, Buy-to-let landlords are another matter entirely.

The whole sector is driven by asymmetric information and poor motivations/incentives re appropriate behaviours. I would therefore add that for normal mortgage lending the banks should be forced to take the risk of any shortfalls on repossessions. Coupled with making bank staff more financially accountable for their past decisions, these changes would sharpen their minds about lending.

I know many renter-savers who have families who rent.  It's a market and a choice.  They refuse to pay these prices.  Can't do anything about those who choose to buy.

On 9/14/2014 at 0:05 PM, hotairmail said:

You've really lost it Venger.

You are leaving bad taste in the mouth of many excellent posters who state what they see, not what they want. I may or may not agree with all of them but I like to hear what they have to say. Your idea of a forum where everyome agrees down to the nth degree would be a very poor meal to say the least.

Apart from anything, you selectively take posts to make it seem that one has a certain position. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am vehemently against the policies arraigned against ordinary people in this country. I do however for instance now worry that those £500k one bed flat owners are going to use their newly issued devalued money to buy things with better value. And if you knew anything about housing, you would have heard of the ripple effect. And it doesn't involve chucking a pebble from London into Sheffield. It does involve people moving to distant 'nice' parts like York, the south west etc. but on the whole it involves a series of smaller moves emanating away from London. The 'ripple' can take say 2+ years.

Lastly, let's say you achieve your objective of hounding anyone who you think is against you off these boards, will it have made any difference to the material circumstances of your life and your ability to afford a nice home in a nice area?

I really think you are going over the edge and you either need to spend a little less time here for a while and/or have a discrete word with your doctor about your paranoia.

Classy eh.

Also had to laugh at my pushing back against you and the other 3 ripple-heads (buy now) in that thread, and you claiming my pushback was to hound anyone, when I was up against you and the HPI++ ripple heads.... and when you basically told me to clear off and see a shrink.

Same for posting against me in this hidden-away off-topic thread.

And that reaction all because I pushed back against you and the few others who were embracing ripple/buy now thinking.

And HAHAHAHA, Section 24.   Let's see how that impacts on the double-downer BTLers who were dancing into BTL in 2014 in next few years.

How is the Sheffield HPI+++++ ripple coming along from 2014?

I choose to rent against housing financialisation and still happy I did not buy in 2014 with ripple-fearmongers 'who are right'.

You want it each and every way (apart from any HPC way it seems to me).  'HPI++++ visions of ripple. /  No choice but to buy.  / (In 2016).. 'managed to engineer BTLers into stampede of buying' /  Buyers of today just not as knowledgeable as HPCers.'  

People do have a choice.  (Rent vs Buy).  They can all see prices in the market.  It's a false argument to claim those buying/bought years ago, 'not as knowledgeable' as renter-saver HPCers, many of who have paid out big /taken the brunt of renting for years, and all the big £ costs that come with it.  Market.  If your 'victims' (despite claiming good time to buy) stuck to renting (instead of buying) they would help turn the market.  If they made their 'no choice' decision to buy, that was/is their choice.

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