Isambard Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 John F Kennedy potentially the man who could have changed world history (or perhaps not) Felled when he was very young, apparently by a communist called Lee Harvey Oswald, I was taught this at a school and I am sure many on here were. But wait, he was against the Vietnam war, when he was killed he was in a massive Republican voter land (Texas) the Bay of Pigs - so just who was involved. Just one assassin? Anyone ever seen the magic bullet? FBI -Hoover (he was the body remover) the Mafia Very convenient that Ruby bumped Oswald off without trial. Oswald was involved, but a great many more people were.... Lets discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabHand Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I expect they are showing Trump that very video as we speak. Don't forget Ruby was then accidentally shot dead by a policemen whilst in custody. Wonder what happened to the copper in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isambard Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Quote think the USA could actually be a Mafia state run by extremely wealthy corporatist backers. agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewingGrass Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 28 minutes ago, DabHand said: I expect they are showing Trump that very video as we speak. Don't forget Ruby was then accidentally shot dead by a policemen whilst in custody. Wonder what happened to the copper in question? Wikipedia says that Jack Ruby:- Jack Leon Ruby (born Jacob Leonard Rubenstein; March 25, 1911[1] – January 3, 1967) was an American nightclub owner and murderer from Chicago, Illinois, who lived in Dallas, Texas. On November 24, 1963, he fatally shot Lee Harvey Oswald while the latter was in police custody after being charged with assassinating U.S. President John F. Kennedy two days earlier. A Dallas jury found him guilty of murdering Oswald and Ruby was consequently sentenced to death. Later, Ruby appealed his conviction, had it overturned and was granted a new trial. However, on January 3, 1967, as the date for his new trial was being set,[2] Ruby became ill in his prison cell and died of a pulmonary embolism from lung cancer.[3][4] I am assuming the above is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isambard Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Ruby was a dying man anyway... lets remember this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isambard Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yes wikipedia is correct. he didn't get bumped off.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The XYY Man Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I shot JFK - and so did my wife..! XYY The dog's kennel is not the place to keep a sausage - Danish proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobloblob Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just waiting for some wacko conspiracy nutjob to turn up and claim that the person who shot JFK never went to the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Wasn't it proven to be Ted Cruz's dad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Talking about crooks was he about to put the biggest of them out of business http://www.rense.com/general44/exec.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economic Exile Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I don't know who shot Kennedy and as per usual don't swallow the official story hook line and sinker. Could it be that he was taken out because he wanted to reform the economy by taking control of money away from banks? Will try and find a link of stuff I've read in the past about this. Edited: LTL has posted something above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebenstein Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Haven't you seen that episode of Red Dwarf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debtlessmanc Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I think in balance was a lone nutter but we may never know more interestingly to me - trivia question, who was the only British journalist in the room when jack ruby shot lee Harvey Oswald ? John Peel. !?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurking Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, debtlessmanc said: I think in balance was a lone nutter but we may never know more interestingly to me - trivia question, who was the only British journalist in the room when jack ruby shot lee Harvey Oswald ? John Peel. !?! Off bbc radio fame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfk Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm saying nuttin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Ted: Now Dougal, this is crucial. Listen to me alright? Dougal: Alright Ted Ted: These bishops are very important. I'll stay around you all the time so you don't say anything you're not supposed to. Dougal: Like what? Ted: Like what you said to bishop Lindsey when he asked me where I was when Kennedy was shot. Dougal: Oh yeah... Ted: I mean you overreacted slightly there. He wasn't accusing me of anything! In answer to the OP: Lee Harvey Oswald. Now who suggested the time and the place is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 The testimony of Gary Wean including the involvement of War hero and film actor Audie Murphy makes a fascinating read - make of it what you will: "Gary was an LAPD cop who heard straight from John Tower, a few weeks after the JFK hit, what Oswald's real involvement was. Audie Murphy and Bill Decker were also there to hear John's tale. ... Basically, Oswald was a military intelligence operative who E. Howard Hunt was using to fabricate a fake assassination attempt on JFK to justify invading Cuba. Then a real assassination was pulled off by somebody, and therein lies the mystery. " --Wade Frazier http://ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabasco kid Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Kristen Shepherd wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Oswald's whole life is so bizarre that it could act as the basis of countless tales. IMHO it was just too convenient that he got rubbed out before his trial and all the facts of his life including his temporary defection to the Soviet Union could be examined in open court. BTW if the accounts of his involvement in the attempted assassination of Major General Edwin Walker are true he was not a great shot as he is supposed to have missed a stationary target with a from less than 100 feet with a rifle firing the same type of bullets that were later used to assassinate Kennedy. Alternatively, the fact he missed Walker who was violently anti Communist but hit Kennedy may not have been accidental at all. Given it was the height off the Cold War and not long after the Cuban missile crisis it looks suspiciously like an attempt to rub out Kennedy for whatever reasons and to frame Russia and Communists for the killing . Certainly, in the run up to Kennedy's murder Oswald left lots and lots of clues to create links between the killing and the Soviets including some nice photos of himself handing out pro Castro leaflets, pictures of himself standing in his garden holding a rifle and clutching Communist newspapers and plenty of contacts with the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico where he is supposed to have made vain attempts to get a visa to Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migrant Mother Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 ''Jim Marrs, in his book Crossfire, presented the theory that Kennedy was trying to rein in the power of the Federal Reserve, and that forces opposed to such action might have played at least some part in the assassination.[429][430][431] According to Marrs, the issuance of Executive Order 11110 was an effort by Kennedy to transfer power from the Federal Reserve to the United States Department of the Treasury by replacing Federal Reserve Notes with silver certificates.[430] Actor and author Richard Belzer named the responsible parties in this theory as American "billionaires, power brokers, and bankers ... working in tandem with the CIA and other sympathetic agents of the government."[432]'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, hotairmail said: I think basically the Mafia wanted their lucrative Cuban domain back. Who knows. There is so much contradictory evidence it is almost impossible to untangle it. The Soviets were always suspicious of defectors like Oswald assuming they were always US intelligence operatives so they always dumped in them places far from Moscow. I doubt the KGB would have left such an obvious trail if they had planned to kill Kennedy. The suspicion about Oswald has always been that he was an intelligence asset though his defection to the USSR in 1959 occurred before Kennedy came to power and there are no obvious things marking him out for a career in 'spookdom' apart from his time in the U.S. marines. In fact Oswald managed to rack up enough contacts in his brief life to furnish a hundred theories. The 'convenient' manner of his death before his trial then provides grounds for dozens more. Add in the fact that Kennedy's younger brother suffered a similar fate when he was running for President in 1968 and it all starts to smell a bit funny. In fact Bobby Kennedy's assassination is some ways even suspicious as it appears that his bodyguards advice on the route to take on a leaving speaking engagement was overriden at the last minute and he was instead directed to take a 'shortcut' through a hotel kitchen right into the path of another supposed lone assassin Sirhan Sirhan. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Robert_F._Kennedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Sutton Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 18 hours ago, debtlessmanc said: I think in balance was a lone nutter but we may never know more interestingly to me - trivia question, who was the only British journalist in the room when jack ruby shot lee Harvey Oswald ? John Peel. !?! He's dead now as well. The plot thickens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DabHand Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 7:39 PM, ChewingGrass said: Wikipedia says that Jack Ruby:- Jack Leon Ruby (born Jacob Leonard Rubenstein; March 25, 1911[1] – January 3, 1967) was an American nightclub owner and murderer from Chicago, Illinois, who lived in Dallas, Texas. On November 24, 1963, he fatally shot Lee Harvey Oswald while the latter was in police custody after being charged with assassinating U.S. President John F. Kennedy two days earlier. A Dallas jury found him guilty of murdering Oswald and Ruby was consequently sentenced to death. Later, Ruby appealed his conviction, had it overturned and was granted a new trial. However, on January 3, 1967, as the date for his new trial was being set,[2] Ruby became ill in his prison cell and died of a pulmonary embolism from lung cancer.[3][4] I am assuming the above is correct? My info comes from a highly connected source... GCSE History. Mind you my history teacher wrote a book on why the Berlin wall would never come down. Pre internet information environments are very interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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