Realistbear Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 http://freeserve.advfn.com/news_Britain-pl...s_13896049.html Britain plans to transfer government jobs abroad, union says LONDON (AFX) - Britain has drawn up plans to transfer abroad jobs across its biggest government department, the country's biggest union said after gaining possession of an internal document. The Public and Commercial Services union said the plans threatened tens of thousands of jobs across the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) in Britain, as the government looks to cut costs. The government denied the plan. The Union said that although British companies were increasingly outsourcing jobs to India and Eastern Europe to save money, this was the first time that a major government department had considered transferring civil servant jobs abroad to run public services back home. The government document, entitled Offshoring Process, came to light before a two-day strike later this week by DWP workers in protest at thousands of job cuts across the department, announced by the government last year. How about offshoring the Chancellor's office and move Gordon to Bombay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abaxas Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Prepare for riots and a tory government! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 What he will do is relocate the work to Bombay and invent new jobs for the 40,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 About 100,000 work for the DWP. There is a massive IT project underway at the moment there that will effectively reduce the need for such a large workforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradox Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Might this be why the overall scenario for property can only be gloomy in the long run. What value added can the UK add these days? Right there are some areas, aerospace, weapons, style magazines, the premiership, erm... a few others. But have we got enough to offer the world to support our population in the manner to which we have become accomstomed? Indians can do things far better and cheaper - software Poles can do things far better and cheaper - plumbing The list could go on and on. I know we do have talented individuals in all fields who can more than hold their own. But what about the population as a whole? How can wages keep pace with house prices when all the pressures of globalisation (polish plumbers and indian call centres) are driving wages down. Whether crash or decline, house prices are only going to go one way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_duke_of_hazzard Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I don't think this can work. Indians aren't very good at sitting on their arses all day doing nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starship fighter Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 still, at least their final salary pensions aren't going to cost the private sector as much as they would if they were british workers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeless Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 he could sack even more if he brought in a flat tax system and quit with the million kinds of benifits and exemptions and tax credits he has brought in. simple realy but bad for unemployment, which is the real reason he dont do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Other jobs, especially production jobs have been offshored so why not government jobs too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistbear Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 If offshoring keeps up at this rate we will become a strictly agrarian nation by 2014 much as we were before the Industrial Revolution. Agrarian nations tend to have cheap house prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyewackitt Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 OUTSOURCE BUSH Congress today announced that the office of the President of the United States of America will be outsourced to India as of January 15, 2006. The move is being made to save the President's $400,000 yearly salary and also a record $521 billion in deficit expenditures and related overhead the office has incurred during the last five years. "We believe this is a wise move financially. The cost savings should be significant," stated Congressman Thomas Reynolds (R-WA). Reynolds, who with the aid of the Government Accounting Office has studied outsourcing of American jobs extensively. "We cannot expect to remain competitive on the world stage with the current level of cash outlay," Reynolds noted. Mr. Bush was informed by e-mail this morning of his termination. Preparations for the job move have been underway for some time. Gurvinder Singh of Indus Teleservices, Mumbai, India, will be assuming the office of President as of January 15th. Mr. Singh was born in the United States while his Indian parents were vacationing at Niagara Falls, thus making him eligible for the position. He will receive a salary of $320 (USD) a month but with no health coverage or other benefits. It is believed that Mr. Singh will be able to handle his job responsibilities without a support staff. Due to the time difference between the U.S. and India, he will be working primarily at night, when few offices of the U.S. Government will be open. "Working nights will allow me to keep my day job at the American Express call center," stated Mr. Singh in an exclusive interview. "I am excited about this position. I always hoped I would be President someday." A Congressional spokesperson noted that while Mr. Singh may not be fully aware of all the issues involved in the office of President, this should not be a problem, because Bush was not familiar with the issues either. Mr. Singh will rely upon a script tree that will enable him to respond effectively to most topics of concern. Using these canned responses, he can address common concerns without having to understand the underlying issues at all. "We know these scripting tools work," stated the spokesperson. President Bush has used them successfully for years." Mr. Singh may have problems with the Texas drawl, but lately Bush has abandoned the "down home" persona in his effort to appear intelligent and on top of the Katrina situation. Bush will receive health coverage, expenses, and salary until his final day of employment. Following a two-week waiting period, he will be eligible for $240 a week unemployment for 13 weeks. Unfortunately, he will not be eligible for Medicaid, as his unemployment benefits will exceed the allowed limit. Mr. Bush has been provided the outplacement services of Manpower, Inc., to help him write a resume and prepare for his upcoming job transition. According to Manpower, Mr. Bush may have difficulties securing a new position due to limited practical work experience. A Greeter position at Wal-Mart was suggested due to Bush's extensive experience shaking hands and giving a phony smile. Another possibility is Bush's re-enlistment in the Texas Air National Guard. His prior records are conspicuously vague, but should he choose this option he would likely be stationed in Waco, Texas, for a month before being sent to Iraq, a country he has visited. "I've been there, I know all about Iraq," stated Mr. Bush, who gained invaluable knowledge of the country in a visit to the Baghdad Airport's terminal and gift shop. Sources in Baghdad and Falluja say Mr. Bush would receive a warm reception from local Iraqis. They have asked to be provided with details of his arrival so that they might arrange an appropriate welcome. by Staff Reporter, Melynda Jill Satire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuyingBear Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Except you can never really get rid of civil servants, even when they no longer have a function, they stick around like a stubborn stain. We're almost back up to public sector employment levels seen 20 years ago, and remember at least they had the excuse back then, look at the sort of industries that were still under public ownership, BP, BT, BG, BA, water, the national grid, British Rail, British Steel and no doubt countless other commanding heights I've neglected to mention. So if they no longer have to run such enterprises what exactly are they up to today? Are they all inspecting the diversity of open spaces or something? Maybe counting how many windows in each residential property and whether they have a nice view? Working on big brother tracking for cars and people? God knows, they must be doing something, one sometimes wishes they were simply lazy, it would do less damange, what a dilemma. So in reality they will shift these jobs overseas where the real work will then occur and the same burden will still remain back in the UK where they will make themselves busy levying extra red tape and inspections productive sectors. We will have a double burden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the Fear Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Basically, our government has become so large that there are not enough citizens available in the UK to take all of the positions. As a result we have to recruit overseas. I suppose the good news is we'll never be unemployed given this problem. Pyewackitt - like the Bush piece! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancypants Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I don't think this can work. Indians aren't very good at sitting on their arses all day doing nothing. they are better at it than us. They call it meditation and spiritually enrich themselves through this process. We have televisions to supply the colourful and expansive visions for us - and food that has been carefully tailored to keep us subdued. That's meditation UK style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live_in_hope Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 http://freeserve.advfn.com/news_Britain-pl...s_13896049.html Britain plans to transfer government jobs abroad, union says LONDON (AFX) - Britain has drawn up plans to transfer abroad jobs across its biggest government department, the country's biggest union said after gaining possession of an internal document. The Public and Commercial Services union said the plans threatened tens of thousands of jobs across the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) in Britain, as the government looks to cut costs. The government denied the plan. The Union said that although British companies were increasingly outsourcing jobs to India and Eastern Europe to save money, this was the first time that a major government department had considered transferring civil servant jobs abroad to run public services back home. The government document, entitled Offshoring Process, came to light before a two-day strike later this week by DWP workers in protest at thousands of job cuts across the department, announced by the government last year. How about offshoring the Chancellor's office and move Gordon to Bombay? Gets my vote we've far too many lazy underworked, unproductice, low achieving public sector workers in this country, has the man finally seen sense & engaged his brain, god forgive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashConnoisseur Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 How about offshoring the Chancellor's office and move Gordon to Bombay? Better still outsource the whole lot to the Indian Ministry of Finance -- I'm sure they couldn't do a worse job. They'd also be able to keep Mervyn entertained with long passionate conversations about cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Basically, our government has become so large that there are not enough citizens available in the UK to take all of the positions. As a result we have to recruit overseas. That is really funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Sminty Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 (edited) Whooo hooo! Im sceptical though that anyone will have the bottle to cut drastically the vast size of government. However as th unions are always telling us how vital these people are, what better way to secure our economic future but transferring all these high flyers and committed people into the private sector where they can fully utilise their talents in turning Britain back into an economic world power. What a great experiment that would be, and well surely it wont cost as much as the great new labour one of 97 Edited January 23, 2006 by Mr_Sminty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live_in_hope Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 (edited) What industry in the UK has not outsourced ?, the way Browns being spending money he knows that raising taxes won't get him tony's job. TBH its been a long time coming for the overpaid & underworked bloated zombies. I hope that 40,000 is just the start, thats equivalent to one towns staff these days Edited January 23, 2006 by Live_in_hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Jobs going abroad, never Yes but that’s racist as it disproportional effects people from ethnic backgrounds since all them left-wing councils have been using reverse discrimination when filling these roles Bet tomorrow I’ll here it’s a leak as the government does an about turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 If they properly streamlined their systems and processes they could probably find 15K of those jobs redundant anyway. The extra 25K could remain in the UK without any problem and we wouldn't have to deal with so many people dumped on the labour market at a single time. But no. Nothing like the requirement for rigourous and systematic organisational analysis to turn a politicians mind to the trendy game of outsourcing. Flighty dears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuyingBear Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 If they properly streamlined their systems and processes they could probably find 15K of those jobs redundant anyway. Are you trying to imply that pointless jobs exist within the public sector? Do you understand the implications of what you're saying Elizabeth? This is hari-kari territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyewackitt Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I thought the number of public sector jobs had increased massively under New Labour - figures of 150K+ new hires since '97. A culling of public sector jobs was only a matter of time but the pensions crisis means that the unions and pension holders will really dig their heals in (and so they should) - this has been a quite poorly considered policy by the government and not only will they find letting people go not as easy as they first expected but they have now added even more employees into public sector pension schemes before actually reviewing the schemes themselves. As things stand we will all be paying for this for many years to come..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I think Gordon is onto something here. The Staff at DWP could keep there jobs but they get the same treatment as the staff being moved to Dingwall, Scotland. There will be no job cuts at the DWP...as long as all the staff move to Bombay....classic. They keep their jobs. They can have a wage cut because it costs a lot less to live over there, thus saving the UK tax payer money. We still get to count them in the employment figures so everything looks fine. We shift lot's of people out of the country thus creating more space for us and lowering demand on housing and therefore lowering HPI. Look what you get for your money http://www.viviun.com/AD-2116/ Gordon could then set up a school for all the expats over there, employ more teachers (that would appear in the figures each year..."we have an extra XXXX amount of teachers in classrooms...yes in Bombay!!!), pay them peanuts. Everyones a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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