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3 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

Aren't they suffering the aquatic equivalent of sheep rustling? They can lose thousands of pounds of fish in a single night apparently.

That's careless of them  :lol:

on a serious note, how would you go about nicking fish?  I can see that for sheep you would just turn up on the moors, far from watching eyes and load then into a lorry.  But fish?

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Just now, One-percent said:

That's careless of them  :lol:

on a serious note, how would you go about nicking fish?  I can see that for sheep you would just turn up on the moors, far from watching eyes and load then into a lorry.  But fish?

People steal bees too.
Hive-fulls, not one at a time.

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8 minutes ago, SarahBell said:

People steal bees too.
Hive-fulls, not one at a time.

Ouch...  I can see that if you know what you are doing in terms of not getting stung it's possible, again it is a lorry job.  But fish? 

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12 minutes ago, One-percent said:

That's careless of them  :lol:

on a serious note, how would you go about nicking fish?  I can see that for sheep you would just turn up on the moors, far from watching eyes and load then into a lorry.  But fish?

At night with a net or elctrickery .....20lb plus carp are £3-5k a pop 

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Just now, One-percent said:

Ouch...  I can see that if you know what you are doing in terms of not getting stung it's possible, again it is a lorry job.  But fish? 

I assume you can do the same with fish.

Just sweep them out with a big net and take them away in a tank. As specialised as bees but in a wetter way.

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4 minutes ago, long time lurking said:

As for the op most seem to be fisheries as in anglers pay to fish there not farms...i think this is just a case of peak stew ponds  

 

 

But you have to farm the fish to stop the fisheries..

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11 minutes ago, SarahBell said:

But you have to farm the fish to stop the fisheries..

There is serious money to be made in smuggling carp from France to the UK because people in the UK pay so much to fish on private lakes and rivers. If you do a google you can read stories of, allegedly, some of these fishing venues paying 20K, 50K for a stock of fish because they can charge anglers 1K or more to fish at their venues. There is serious money in this.

So, imagine that you are running a fish farm here in the UK with 10K worth of fish in stock. Your organised crime lot are going to see it as less risky and less cost robbing your farm than going all the way to France to do it. Plus, French fish have a parasite that we do not have in the UK so the law can check angling venues to find out where the fish have come from.

Anglers generally do not care where the fish has come from - they just want to catch fish.

I have heard stories of fishing farms that have had most of their stock nicked in a single night and it has wiped them out financially.

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1 hour ago, SarahBell said:

I wouldn't want to eat Pilsworth fish. I imagine the only thing that masks the landfilly taste is the overtones of petrol and diesel fumes. Quite surprised you're even allowed to farm fish there to be honest.

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1 hour ago, SarahBell said:

Top one is a recreational fishery which has a turnover of £60k.... not much profit likely after costs and must be quite difficult running this sort of business in greater Manchester.

 

The second one is a sly bit of property development. They got planning permission for the house through an Agricultural Occupation Condition (AOC). This is basically a loophole where millionaire benefits scroungers* can circumvent the planning laws. By law the house can only be lived in by someone earning their living in agriculture, but no one checks and after a decade or so you can apply to have the AOC restriction rescinded.

 

 

*farmers/landowners

 

 

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2 minutes ago, InlikeFlynn said:

Top one is a recreational fishery which has a turnover of £60k.... not much profit likely after costs and must be quite difficult running this sort of business in greater Manchester.

 

The second one is a sly bit of property development. They got planning permission for the house through an Agricultural Occupation Condition (AOC). This is basically a loophole where millionaire benefits scroungers* can circumvent the planning laws. By law the house can only be lived in by someone earning their living in agriculture, but no one checks and after a decade or so you can apply to have the AOC restriction rescinded.

 

 

*farmers/landowners

 

 

Genuinely, it's very close to a huge and currently active landfill site.

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52 minutes ago, One-percent said:

Really interesting T,T.  Didn't realise ther was so much money in it.

however, the practicalities, how do you move live fish?

 

Back when I was a kid in the 1970s one of the jelly firms - think it was Rowntrees - had a promotion where if you collected X tokens you were sent, wait for this, gold fish.

So I collected a bunch of tokens, sent off for my gold fish and a few weeks later, from Japan, I got sent about half a dozen gold fish in the post. They were each in individual plastic bags tied at the top with half water and half air. Poor b*ggers. IIRC some of them lived for many years in the fish tank - again, poor b*ggers, as I did not understand how cruel it is to keep fish in small tanks back then. None of us did really.

So how do they smuggle fish today - in plastic bags.

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2 hours ago, SarahBell said:

That one in Burton Bradstock would mean you'd become a neighbour of Billy Bragg...

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1 hour ago, One-percent said:

Really interesting T,T.  Didn't realise ther was so much money in it.

however, the practicalities, how do you move live fish?

Legally in a tank on the back of a lorry ,illegally (poachers/theft) big plastic bag with a little water and a oxygen bottle feeding into/inflating it

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1 hour ago, InlikeFlynn said:

Top one is a recreational fishery which has a turnover of £60k.... not much profit likely after costs and must be quite difficult running this sort of business in greater Manchester.

 

The second one is a sly bit of property development. They got planning permission for the house through an Agricultural Occupation Condition (AOC). This is basically a loophole where millionaire benefits scroungers* can circumvent the planning laws. By law the house can only be lived in by someone earning their living in agriculture, but no one checks and after a decade or so you can apply to have the AOC restriction rescinded.

 

 

*farmers/landowners

 

 

they do check and are very strict round here. not sure about the rest of the country.

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9 hours ago, long time lurking said:

At night with a net or elctrickery .....20lb plus carp are £3-5k a pop 

3-5k!! Wow - Carp are classed as vermin here in Australia. It's illegal to release them back in when you've caught one. Loads of them too

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20 minutes ago, mattydread said:

3-5k!! Wow - Carp are classed as vermin here in Australia. It's illegal to release them back in when you've caught one. Loads of them too

 

Oz does not like blackberry bushes as well.

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8 hours ago, GreenDevil said:

Aren't carp a favoured  eating fish for certain members of our European brothers. A nice big carp would feed a large family for a few days.

Poles love em - you need to put them in a bath for a few days to purge the mud tasting flesh. Apparently.

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