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 http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37857085/mila-kunis-felt-objectified-after-hollywood-producer-asked-her-to-pose-semi-naked

Aww - poor wee lamb.

Oh wait a second - this Mila Kunis from the Esquire "Sexiest women alive" photoshoot ?

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/interviews/g1299/mila-kunis-pictures/?

So what would her argument be here ? This shoot was her choice so it makes her a 'powerful' women or some other nonsense ?

These Hollywood types really do end up living up their own backsides.

The girl was born in Ukraine and taken to the US by her family. Now makes millions and has a great lifestyle based entirely on the way she looks (Let's be honest here) yet complains that she is "objectified".

Just ****** right off you self obsessed ****.

Well that's today's rant done with :)

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Yep, if your Unique Selling Point is what you look like then if you make a career out of it you have objectified yourself.

All models, male and female, are objects.  Well paid objects selling their faces and bodies.

Everybody else actually has to do something to make a living.

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Indeed. It would be amazing to be objectified. Easy money - easy life.

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I think she has a point. Sure, she makes a living from her looks, but no-one should be treated like an object in their professional relationship with colleagues.   

She's in a privileged position of making a lot of money from what seems like relatively easy work, but that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve respect in her working environment. I'd be pretty pissed off if my boss told me I'd never work in the industry again unless I did a particular task which made me uncomfortable.  But if the same boss explained the reasons why it was necessary to do the task, and I was able to do it - of course I would do so and willingly.  And, of course, I should always have the option to refuse without career ending threats being made.  It might mean I get disciplined if it was something I'd agreed to as part of my contract but there are proper procedures. 

It sounds like there was a mismatch of expectations and I'm surprised it wasn't written into the contract. Nudity clauses are common in Hollywood. 

Time will tell if she's able to make the transition from probably being mostly hired for her looks to working using her other talents.  

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21 minutes ago, StainlessSteelCat said:

Time will tell if she's able to make the transition from probably being mostly hired for her looks to working using her other talents.  

I'm assuming she's a earnt a few quid from being the voice of Meg Griffin in Family Guy for the last 16 years! Not using her looks there either...

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Maybe it's not having a TV but it's crossed my mind that I have no idea who this is.  I initially thought it might be Milo from the Trigglypuff debate.

I am absolutely delighted that I didn't know :)

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2 minutes ago, MrPin said:

I have no idea who this is!:o

Well you are the pinnacle of taste so I would expect nothing less.

If you did knwo who she was it would have been like finding out that the Queen never misses her daily viewing of Jeremy Kyle, Loose Women, and Eastenders.

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45 minutes ago, StainlessSteelCat said:

I think she has a point. Sure, she makes a living from her looks, but no-one should be treated like an object in their professional relationship with colleagues.   

She's in a privileged position of making a lot of money from what seems like relatively easy work, but that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve respect in her working environment. I'd be pretty pissed off if my boss told me I'd never work in the industry again unless I did a particular task which made me uncomfortable.  But if the same boss explained the reasons why it was necessary to do the task, and I was able to do it - of course I would do so and willingly.  And, of course, I should always have the option to refuse without career ending threats being made.  It might mean I get disciplined if it was something I'd agreed to as part of my contract but there are proper procedures. 

It sounds like there was a mismatch of expectations and I'm surprised it wasn't written into the contract. Nudity clauses are common in Hollywood. 

Time will tell if she's able to make the transition from probably being mostly hired for her looks to working using her other talents.  

In the field she has chosen to work in - she is an object. 

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23 minutes ago, Inoperational Bumblebee said:

I'm assuming she's a earnt a few quid from being the voice of Meg Griffin in Family Guy for the last 16 years! Not using her looks there either...

If she looked like Meg she would never have been even remotely close to being given that role. 

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2 minutes ago, ccc said:

If she looked like Meg she would never have been even remotely close to being given that role. 

These days.  Back in the 70s a lot of foreign totty was voiced by Miriam Margoyles. which rather shatters the illusion.

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With her distinctive voice, Margolyes first gained recognition for her work as a voice artist. She recorded a soft-porn audio called Sexy Sonia: Leaves from my Schoolgirl Notebook.[9] She performed most of the supporting female characters in the dubbed Japanese action TV series Monkey. She also worked with the theatre company Gay Sweatshop and provided voiceovers in the Japanese TV series The Water Margin (credited as Mirium Margolyes).

 

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55 minutes ago, StainlessSteelCat said:

I think she has a point. Sure, she makes a living from her looks, but no-one should be treated like an object in their professional relationship with colleagues.   

She's in a privileged position of making a lot of money from what seems like relatively easy work, but that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve respect in her working environment. I'd be pretty pissed off if my boss told me I'd never work in the industry again unless I did a particular task which made me uncomfortable.  But if the same boss explained the reasons why it was necessary to do the task, and I was able to do it - of course I would do so and willingly.  And, of course, I should always have the option to refuse without career ending threats being made.  It might mean I get disciplined if it was something I'd agreed to as part of my contract but there are proper procedures. 

It sounds like there was a mismatch of expectations and I'm surprised it wasn't written into the contract. Nudity clauses are common in Hollywood. 

Time will tell if she's able to make the transition from probably being mostly hired for her looks to working using her other talents.  

To a certain extent that's all true, but at the same time how much sympathy can I generate for someone who is: beautiful, celebrated, wealthy and healthy just because they were asked to do something that made them uncomfortable (for a lot of money presumably)? 

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1 minute ago, Frank Hovis said:

These days.  Back in the 70s a lot of foreign totty was voiced by Miriam Margoyles. which rather shatters the illusion.

 

I'm just saying she was only considered for that role because of who she is. And that is all down to what she looked like.

It seems to me that most are more than happy to be objectified if it gets them to where they want to be - but then once they get there want to complain about it. Cake and eat it imo. 

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2 minutes ago, ccc said:

I'm just saying she was only considered for that role because of who she is. And that is all down to what she looked like.

It seems to me that most are more than happy to be objectified if it gets them to where they want to be - but then once they get there want to complain about it. Cake and eat it imo. 

I agreed!  Hence my "these days" opening statement.

It is not now about talent; it is about being a recognisable voice.

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1 hour ago, StainlessSteelCat said:

I think she has a point. Sure, she makes a living from her looks, but no-one should be treated like an object in their professional relationship with colleagues.   

 

Its about how she "Felt" she was being treated as an object.  It must have come as a shock to hear thats how people viewed her.

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Let's think of the famous 'casting couch. 

Now it's clearly a pretty sleazy thing - and there is little doubt it occurred. However these women were not raped - they willingly agreed to it.

They were told by some sleazy director that if they wanted the role they would have to open their legs - and they did.

They decided their own self respect was worth losing in order to get the fame and fortune they desired. They could have just stood up and walked away (And i am sure many did)

So why do we still see those that willingly agreed to that 'deal' - however sleazy it was - as 'victims' ?

They were one side of a business agreement - were they not ?

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7 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said:

I agreed!  Hence my "these days" opening statement.

It is not now about talent; it is about being a recognisable voice.

Ah fair enough. There must still be the odd voiceover bod in these big shows and programmes though. 

Not in big films though - it's just 'A' Listers by the look of it. 

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Women, specifically, will always be objectified by men. It is a matter of biology - it's how men work and how the male brain works (it can appraise hip-waist ratios and levels of attractiveness almost subliminally).

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A few weeks ago the actress Rose McGowan stated that she had been raped by a powerful producer in Hollyweird. She basically pointed the finger at the person so I won't post any links here. But a quick google can find her allegations.

 

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12 minutes ago, The Masked Tulip said:

A few weeks ago the actress Rose McGowan stated that she had been raped by a powerful producer in Hollyweird. She basically pointed the finger at the person so I won't post any links here. But a quick google can find her allegations.

 

Which alleged assault she is now using to have a go at Donald Trump for some reason.

And yes I had to google who she was as well.

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1 hour ago, MrPin said:

I have no idea who this is!:o

Me too.

However, I cannot claim to be an intellectual.

Whenever I hear the finale of Rossini's William Tell Overture, I do think of The Lone Ranger:(

 

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3 minutes ago, The Spaniard said:

Me too.

However, I cannot claim to be an intellectual.

Whenever I hear the finale of Rossini's William Tell Overture, I do think of The Lone Ranger:(

 

Very good!  I wasn't claiming to be a highbrow in not knowing who she was, more that a combination of not having a TV and not generally buying newspapers means that I am automatically pre-selecting what I watch or read; which would naturally exclude anything to do with films, soaps, pop music.

Back in the day when I bought newspapers and watched TV I would end up taking in whatever information the media wished to throw at me.  They used to, and presumably still, do celebrity gossip updates in the gaps in films on ITV4 so it was unavoidable hearing about the latest Justin Beiber incident or whatever.  These days I am blissfully unaware of such rubbish :)

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