SarahBell Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 But he warned that there is currently a shortage of cybersecurity experts to manage the increasing problems presented by the integration of tech into our daily lives. http://www.alphr.com/security/1004684/experts-react-to-governments-19bn-cybersecurity-pledge-uk-not-yet-equipped-to-deal?_mout=1&utm_campaign=alphr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&tpid=236928349678 Can I make a helpful suggestion? Stop connecting bloody toasters to the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 ...and kettles and fridges, ffs! WHY??? Anyone here got a connected kitchen appliance??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Get with future ladies. Bossy, theres something blocking the view from your webcam.... Shame the ukgov havee bought loads of chinese comms kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrashingisles Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Bossybabe said: ...and kettles and fridges, ffs! WHY??? Anyone here got a connected kitchen appliance??? The next thing will be a wardrobe connected to the fashion police. "Warning: Do not leave the house wearing that!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Wierdly i get a popup ad from Newcastle poly , who are running a cyber security MSc for 10k of your hard cash. Parttime, some weekends in London. Now this sort of stuff is not a million miles from my work. I doubt the taght courses will be much cop- just some une!ployable dork reading a book off the interweb. Cyber tips: If you have a computer then dont turn it on. If you turn it on dont connect it to the interweb. If you connect to the interweb then dont run windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I'm sure you could learn a lot on a cybersecurity course. However I think they may be the MBA type snakeoil of this era. I actually did an MSc at Newcastle Poly in the 80s Was Optoelectronics. When I had finished there were no jobs in it. The big difference was that Thatcher's mean Government paid me a grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 10 hours ago, spyguy said: Wierdly i get a popup ad from Newcastle poly , who are running a cyber security MSc for 10k of your hard cash. Parttime, some weekends in London. Now this sort of stuff is not a million miles from my work. I doubt the taght courses will be much cop- just some une!ployable dork reading a book off the interweb. Cyber tips: If you have a computer then dont turn it on. If you turn it on dont connect it to the interweb. If you connect to the interweb then dont run windows. We had a well meaning guy but not very computer literate bloke on the Board of one company. We'd had a virus attack that had taken our network out for three days (downadup if anybody remembers that one) and he'd told his mate who was an IT consultant about it. His mate had convinced him that if we only paid him some wedge then all of our computer security problems would be solved for ever more and he was banging on about this, getting a bit exasperated as to why we wouldn't accept this generous offer whilst the IT manager struggled to remain polite as the implication was that they were both incompetent and cavalier when they were neither. In the end they had to say that the only totally secure network was one that never connected to anything else, the internet, memory sticks, which wouldn't be particularly useful as a business system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Frank Hovis said: We had a well meaning guy but not very computer literate bloke on the Board of one company. We'd had a virus attack that had taken our network out for three days (downadup if anybody remembers that one) and he'd told his mate who was an IT consultant about it. His mate had convinced him that if we only paid him some wedge then all of our computer security problems would be solved for ever more and he was banging on about this, getting a bit exasperated as to why we wouldn't accept this generous offer whilst the IT manager struggled to remain polite as the implication was that they were both incompetent and cavalier when they were neither. In the end they had to say that the only totally secure network was one that never connected to anything else, the internet, memory sticks, which wouldn't be particularly useful as a business system. Let me guess, Windows consultant. Install a virus checker, bill ~ 1k/day, all done. Part of Windows enterprise problem is the large number of useless 'consultants' hanging around from the early days who think everything can be fixed by them ringing up the MS sales support and installing whatever product is recommended to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, spyguy said: Let me guess, Windows consultant. Install a virus checker, bill ~ 1k/day, all done. Part of Windows enterprise problem is the large number of useless 'consultants' hanging around from the early days who think everything can be fixed by them ringing up the MS sales support and installing whatever product is recommended to them. I think he realised he'd been spun a line when everyone else in the meeting agreed with the IT manager. Although the IT manager was themselves taken in the next year by employing an expensively dressed bloke who kept telling everybody how much he was saving the company; by ditching decent programmes and installing freeware that didn't work properly. He was eventually sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Nice sometimes to enjoy a few days with real cash in pocket, no swipe cars, real tickets in pocket, no phone or laptop, tablet, no satnav just a map, no internet, no cctv cameras...... a few hours of freedom and peace.....not being followed or tracked by anyone or anything....;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I tried to get a job in government cyber security, but did not have the experience or the right skills. There are various offices sites in the south. IF you are interested take a look at DTSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 21 minutes ago, 200p said: I tried to get a job in government cyber security, but did not have the experience or the right skills. There are various offices sites in the south. IF you are interested take a look at DTSL. They are looking for the "moon on a stick" and won't pay enough to relocate to a very expensive area. Almost topical for this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I was probably too old, had very little public sector work experience, and can't code. Although I can embed images in to forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, 200p said: I was probably too old, had very little public sector work experience, and can't code. Although I can embed images in to forums! I can see a problem here. Why don't you complain that you weren't black enough? Anyway, off on a tangent, as I sometimes do...... The place I works at, is a big Government contractor, and is the whitest place I ever worked due to the requirement of being nominally British, and having at least one British parent. They seem to have sh1t all idea about computer security though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 18 hours ago, SarahBell said: Can I make a helpful suggestion? Stop connecting bloody toasters to the internet. Amen to that. And some people wonder why I've developed such a contempt for "progress". Aside from my computers (desktop and laptop) I don't own anything that I could possibly see any reason for connecting to the internet. We've got an obsession for making things as high-tech as possible for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail the Tripod Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 20 minutes ago, Riedquat said: Amen to that. And some people wonder why I've developed such a contempt for "progress". Aside from my computers (desktop and laptop) I don't own anything that I could possibly see any reason for connecting to the internet. We've got an obsession for making things as high-tech as possible for the sake of it. My car is connected. It's mildly useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, Hail the Tripod said: My car is connected. It's mildly useful. Can't think of a reason I'd want my car connected. Well maybe one or two very, very minor ones that don't come close to making it a good idea. Keeping the built-in satnav up to date is all I can think of right now, which isn't terribly significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 20 hours ago, thecrashingisles said: The next thing will be a wardrobe connected to the fashion police. "Warning: Do not leave the house wearing that!" ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 20 hours ago, spyguy said: Get with future ladies. Bossy, theres something blocking the view from your webcam.... Shame the ukgov havee bought loads of chinese comms kit. Sorry, spy guy, that'll be my t1ts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 7 hours ago, 200p said: I was probably too old, had very little public sector work experience, and can't code. Although I can embed images in to forums! You sound ideal for a place I was invited to to go to for an informal 'chat'. After a 2h hour process I did feel like investing in a fallout shelter with an off grid power supply. We decided, at the end, that they did not to step up their knowledge of stuff like computers, and a lot of stuff that had happened since 1950. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepLurker Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 7 hours ago, 200p said: I tried to get a job in government cyber security, but did not have the experience or the right skills. Sorry to hear that you didn't get the job, but then the skill requirements were very clear: have 7.5 years experience in maintaining Windows 11, 9.7 years experience developing for Oracle Forms v.3.5.beta7, and 8 years relevant experience implementing security solutions for 360 degree Android applications. Luckily for the government, IBM Global Services had just the person, and they could start next week; they just needed a bit of paper signing, as the guy was working in their Karachi office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The XYY Man Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 32 minutes ago, Bossybabe said: Sorry, spy guy, that'll be my t1ts. You actually have wild birds flying around your boudoir..? Must be a nightmare cleaning all the bird-shit off the bedspread... XYY The dog's kennel is not the place to keep a sausage - Danish proverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 9 hours ago, MrPin said: I can see a problem here. Why don't you complain that you weren't black enough? Anyway, off on a tangent, as I sometimes do...... The place I works at, is a big Government contractor, and is the whitest place I ever worked due to the requirement of being nominally British, and having at least one British parent. They seem to have sh1t all idea about computer security though! It always helps to fill the ethnic monitoring form in putting yourself down as Muslim. It works for the police too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 2 hours ago, The XYY Man said: You actually have wild birds flying around your boudoir..? Must be a nightmare cleaning all the bird-shit off the bedspread... XYY The dog's kennel is not the place to keep a sausage - Danish proverb Perish the thought. I hate birds. It was probably my hound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyguy Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I still have not found your avatar bootay. ive been trolling interweb pron for ages. Bit hard now. My palm hairs keep getting caught in the keys...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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