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Frank Hovis

Jamelia - sacked for thought crime

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You may ask "who?" and I probably would also but I saw her a couple of times on Never Mind the Buzzcocks and she was brilliant, out-funnying the team captains, seriously good, and so unlike the usual inarticulate pop stars.  I assumed a TV career beckoned.

Well it did, and now it has been ended because she has been outed as a blatant Fattist. She said normal clothes shops were correct to stock only a normal range of sizes and that anything bigger should, as it used to, come from specialist outsize shops to bring home to people that being massively overweight is not acceptable.

For this, and with an eye to the typical viewers of Loose Women, she has been sacked. Back to the bland celeb chat then whilst being terrified of saying anything that might possibly offend anybody. Shame.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2010102/jamelia-axed-from-loose-women-after-infuriating-show-bosses/

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The thing is from the TV exec persons point of view, her job is just to be the filler between the important bits, i.e. the adverts.

 

Probably a fair amount of the audience are over weight, so here comments will not go down well with them or the advertisers.  Was she really fired though or just given less chances to appear?  (No doubt she is freelance)

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There's a young woman who gets on the train most days with me.

Shes a bit short - a doubt shes 5 foot.

Very pretty in a short, English Rose way.

Not bad boos too.

But .....

She has the lower body of a 50 year fat woman.

As shes short shes got no leeway with wieght - an extra stone or two can be spread around and hidden if you're 5.11+

Pretty obvious when you are 5 nothing.

Now, years ago .. not only was carrying 2 stone extra rare, but the clothes were limited - mumus and the like.

This girl, lovely as she is, wears 'skinny' jeans. Its not a good look on her.

As shes short, Ive noticed that her ar5e is roughly were my knee is - Im pretty leggy.

Not sure what my point is - dont be overweight when you are young, dont wear tight clothes.

 

 

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On being over wieght, never mind being obese, as a woman - dont do it. Its very heath threatening.

Partner works with loads of woman. A notable percentage - 4 out of 20 - have been for cancer ops before 55.

The ones who have not had cancer areall diabetic.

All were obese - or acceptable as its called these days. Being obese makes cancer of one form of sort a pretty much guaranteed outcome.

 

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isn't that a fraction spyguy rather than a percentage?

sorry....B)

I've never understood how people don't notice themselves getting fat and change their ways. you don't wake up 20 stone. can anyone explain? statistically there must be a few overweight folks on here

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13 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

isn't that a fraction spyguy rather than a percentage?

sorry....B)

I've never understood how people don't notice themselves getting fat and change their ways. you don't wake up 20 stone. can anyone explain? statistically there must be a few overweight folks on here

Elasticated waists.

That's why.
Don't ever buy them or wear them.

Every fat bugger out there gets bigger because you can go up 2 or 3 sizes in an elasticated item of clothing.

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13 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

isn't that a fraction spyguy rather than a percentage?

sorry....B)

I've never understood how people don't notice themselves getting fat and change their ways. you don't wake up 20 stone. can anyone explain? statistically there must be a few overweight folks on here

Well that's the problem, you don't just wake up 20 stone it's progressive, you don't notice that much because it takes a fair while to get that way. Same way as when you look at your friends and family and they don't seem to age particularly, it's because they have been very small subtle changes.

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15 minutes ago, hotairmail said:

Your point is you've clearly got a thing for short fat women wearing tight clothes. Say it isn't true.

Well, I wouldn't say no. She's still at the stage where the extra pounds add to her curves rather than sagging around like a sack of porridge.

Thing is, young women get an easier ride with being overweight. They have under that squeezes it, shapes it, pushes it out.

But there's a slippery slope between curvy and trussed up slob.

Ill post some piccies from home in a couple of weeks time. Full onfat shaming - but the sights I have seen!

 

 

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17 minutes ago, SarahBell said:

Elasticated waists.

That's why.
Don't ever buy them or wear them.

Every fat bugger out there gets bigger because you can go up 2 or 3 sizes in an elasticated item of clothing.

Ive heard that before.

Lycra easy fit too.

'Ohh, my jeans are a bit tight. Better cut down on the pies'

has become

'Plenty of room left in these'

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32 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

isn't that a fraction spyguy rather than a percentage?

sorry....B)

I've never understood how people don't notice themselves getting fat and change their ways. you don't wake up 20 stone. can anyone explain? statistically there must be a few overweight folks on here

Pedant!

Its 20%.

A fraction would have been 1/5!

You get obese one (five) pies at a time.

Actually, its bulk booze and take aways.

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I don't agree with sacking her for her views, but neither do I agree with her. In a free market shops should not be told what to sell, same as fizzy drinks companies should not be taxed on how much sugar they're putting in. In a free society people should have a right to be fat.

Edit: the 'fat acceptance' movement has got a bit out of hand admittedly, as the furor over those 'are you beach body ready' ads showed last year.

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I noticed a story about an Olympic medal winning athlete who missed the parade because he'd cracked an ironic joke about Muslims claiming that Islam is the RoP and become beyond the pale. Instead he had to pay penitence by touring mosques apologizing to all and sundry. Hos sponsors had also abandoned him too.

All part of the 'chilling effect' that discourages anyone from applying critical thinking (or humour) to the RoP.

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9 minutes ago, Rave said:

I don't agree with sacking her for her views, but neither do I agree with her. In a free market shops should not be told what to sell, same as fizzy drinks companies should not be taxed on how much sugar they're putting in. In a free society people should have a right to be fat.

Edit: the 'fat acceptance' movement has got a bit out of hand admittedly, as the furor over those 'are you beach body ready' ads showed last year.

 

I don't believe she was stating that it should be compulsory(?) Her main crime seems to have been expressing an opinion that goes against the current SJW dogma. Again, it's part of the chilling effect that keeps people in the MSM 'on message' (or get fired).

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1 hour ago, spunko2010 said:

iI've never understood how people don't notice themselves getting fat and change their ways. you don't wake up 20 stone. can anyone explain? statistically there must be a few overweight folks on here

I like eating and drinking beer and I'm not that good at forcing myself out to do much exercise (although I'm not as bad as 20 stone, more like 17, and 6'3", could still do with losing two or three). Entirely my own issue though, I've no time for people who'll either pander to it and call it fine or try to nag and nanny me into losing weight. And any particular meal or bit of exercise makes sod all difference in the grand scheme of things, it's the cumulative effect of either, which probably doesn't help.

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I've lost weight down to 19 stone, and I already look and feel much better (but I'm relatively tall and very broad, so 20 stone is not super obese for me like it is for obese women of a similar weight with smaller and shorter frames).

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12 minutes ago, spunko2010 said:

Just watched it and couldn't find anything I disagreed with.

Same here. It's allegedly her 'bitchiest' moments. Seems honesty is now bitchy?

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12 minutes ago, hotairmail said:

I don't think there should be a right to be ignorant AND a right to choose. They're incompatible.

You've a right to be ignorant and choose something that's no good for you, but the consequences are entirely your own problem too. I have a strong belief in not trying to protect people from themselves. What you shouldn't have a right to is to reject responsibility for yourself.

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4 hours ago, Rave said:

I don't agree with sacking her for her views, but neither do I agree with her. In a free market shops should not be told what to sell, same as fizzy drinks companies should not be taxed on how much sugar they're putting in. In a free society people should have a right to be fat.

Edit: the 'fat acceptance' movement has got a bit out of hand admittedly, as the furor over those 'are you beach body ready' ads showed last year.

Is that what she was saying? Fashion brands do not sell their headline ranges in fatty size, because fatties wandering round in their clothes make their brand distinctly non-aspirational. The argument was whether shops should be forced to sell fatty sizes, not whether they should be forced not to.

My wife periodically tells me she's sad because she's now too old/fat for brand x, although to be fair to her she thinks this is absolutely reasonable on the part of the brand.

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8 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

You may ask "who?"

the young lady who had quite a catchy hit about a decade or so ago... a cover of Superstar I think; we could add that to hits you didn't know were covers threads.

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I'm always amused that men's "outsize shops" are called things like "High and Mighty", but women have to go to "Evans the outsize shop". It reminds me of "Hefty Hideaway" on that Hairspray film by John Waters.^_^

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12 hours ago, Frank Hovis said:

You may ask "who?" and I probably would also but I saw her a couple of times on Never Mind the Buzzcocks and she was brilliant, out-funnying the team captains, seriously good, and so unlike the usual inarticulate pop stars.  I assumed a TV career beckoned.

Jamelia always seemed pretty cool. I vaguely recall her appearances on NMtB and she shined on it. I quite liked some of her singles, especially her debut one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VupHxrP4XME

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