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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bedroom-tax-pensioners-social-housing-housing-crisis-council-houses-a7340136.html

 

Thousands of poorer pensioners will be hit by a new “bedroom tax”, despite the Government’s promises to protect the elderly from the hugely controversial benefit cuts.

They are poised to lose at least £300 a year because their homes will be deemed to be “underoccupied”, slashing their incomes or forcing them to move – away from family and friends, or to flats that are unsuitable for older people.

In some cases, the financial pain will be greater – one housing association has identified pensioners in part of the North who are set to lose a staggering £1,700 a year.

Now housing associations and campaigners for older people fear the same harsh impact from the new measure, which comes into force in April 2018, for new tenancies starting after April this year.

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For new tenancies. So how many OAPs start a new tenancy every year? Not many. 
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Hugh Owen, Riverside’s director of strategy, said the only option for many older people would be to move, yet smaller properties were in scarce supply.

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You'd think maybe the director of Strategy might have some ideas on what strategy they could do. After all the whole idea of bedroom tax has been around for long enough for them to assess how many people really only need a 1 bedroom place and to put some funds into building 1 bedroom places.

For every single person or couple you move into a one bedroom place you can rehouse a family better.
There needs to be more social housing so that people can move easily into more suitable accomodation. 

And if the people affected by BT don't want to move into nice new one bedroom properties then there's lots of people in the private rented sector who would.

 

 

 

 

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In a nutshell, pensioners who made no provision for their retirement will only get a one bedroom flat paid for, and not extra bedrooms for free. 

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There wouldn't be so much of a problem with moving them away from their friends if they'd instigated this when the children left home, giving them time to make new friends in their new place as they approached retirement.

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This is only for new tenancies starting from this April.Here in the north east the single/couple rate is around £320 a month,the average 3 bed semi council house,ALMO,HA is about £400 a month.Most will simply make up the shortfall from their other benefits.

Its a very good move though.This and the bedroom tax do help focus minds on getting a job before the children leave home.Local Housing allowance is frozen for four years as well and i expect after that CPI increases at best.HB is tricky to cut,but by linking to need it does make a good start.

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1 hour ago, EnglishinWales said:

Just another tax on the poor. No fan of pensioners but this shouldn't be happening. HB needs to rise or rents need to be brought into line with LHA rates.

That's not true is it. They don't pay tax. :wacko:

Every unemployed, working tax credit and housing benefit scrounger is the cause of this not the people who actually pay tax. Thank you very much.

Point your finger at them. Ta! About time we had a bit of social shame spread around then we wouldn't need  another bedroom tax  a reduction of peoples benefits.

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Wouldn't mind social shame also being directed at people doing non jobs in the public sector. 

Can't see the money given to 'scroungers' exceeding the 'make work' payouts.

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I don't like the bedroom tax in practice, in principle it sound fine but in practice bureaucratic and there are ways around, bad cases etc.

The best idea would be to say that people can't get more than £x value of housing.  With the bedroom tax you can penalize people living in a 2 bedroom flat in the middle of nowhere, where no one wants to live, but it is ok for a pensioner to live in Camden town - yes Frank Dobson I am thinking of you - in subsidized housing.

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On 12/17/2016 at 10:57 PM, EnglishinWales said:

Just another tax on the poor. No fan of pensioners but this shouldn't be happening. HB needs to rise or rents need to be brought into line with LHA rates.

 

Well, look. They are being paid by the government (ie us as taxpayers) to take up more space than they need. Do not bite the hand which feeds you.

 

Of course, where this is going to lead is measures against private owners "underoccupying" their homes.

Comrade! You have a spare box room!  You will take in this deserving refugee family of 6 military age men and 1 elderly woman from Syria!

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On 12/22/2016 at 11:16 AM, iamnumerate said:

I don't like the bedroom tax in practice, in principle it sound fine but in practice bureaucratic and there are ways around, bad cases etc.

 

They couldn't have been daft enough to think that it would save much money as it was already in effect for those renting in the private sector. imo it was done as a tactic to strengthen the right wing vote.

Vote catching gimmicks rarely work out well.

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On 18/02/2017 at 11:37 AM, John51 said:

They couldn't have been daft enough to think that it would save much money as it was already in effect for those renting in the private sector. imo it was done as a tactic to strengthen the right wing vote.

Vote catching gimmicks rarely work out well.

Very true but they never learn - of course why did Labour introduce it for the private sector?

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