council dweller Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Yes well, I can just about see the point of disc`s on cars and motorcycles.....but pushbikes ? Shirley they`re more trouble than they`re worth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Yes well, I can just about see the point of disc`s on cars and motorcycles.....but pushbikes ? Shirley they`re more trouble than they`re worth ? They are fantastic, and you can stop on a sixpence, as well as have full confidence that they will work in the wet. They can be difficult for "trail braking" ie modulating / scrubbing speed with light braking as they tend to be a bit on or off / all or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
council dweller Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Well it`s all relative innit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgul Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Yes well, I can just about see the point of disc`s on cars and motorcycles.....but pushbikes ? Shirley they`re more trouble than they`re worth ? I think it comes back to whether you are a cyclist or someone who just rides a bike. For a cyclist the minor hassle is fine, and you'll have bought a decent setup, so they'll work well. For someone who just rides a bike they're a right pain compared with the low maintenance rim brakes, which are themselves a hassle compared with hub brakes (which for some reason we don't do in the UK - they're good in the wet and keep going for years with no intervention). And you'd be more likely to buy a budget brand which won't even be any better than the rim brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Yes well, I can just about see the point of disc`s on cars and motorcycles.....but pushbikes ? Shirley they`re more trouble than they`re worth ? Yep. Any brakes that can skid on tarmac should be powerful enough. Even ultra-cheapo bike brakes can do that very easily in the dry - just watch kiddies at play, and it's not a big step up to brakes that'll do it in the wet. The main hurdle is other problems of cheap&nasty components, like wheels that warp so the rims move from side to side in rotating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I found the bike I've been riding for the last 10+ years in a scrap pile outside a posh bike shop, sans pedals and seat - an old Specialised Crossroads. The front derailleur was frozen so I disconnected it, 7 gears being more than enough for where I live now. And if it wasn't impressively ugly enough, I added a crossbar child seat and foot-rests, which along with the strategic rust and cobwebs (it lives outdoors) renders it un-stealable. Runs very smooth and fast, notwithstanding all the above, so long as I don't leave it to fur up. You don't have to lash out money for a serviceable bike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fbIlaRkAWo The old curvey steel one? Sun Microsystems designed? I've got one of those, too big for me really. Interesting bike, very comfy ride but surprisingly heavy, mine comes in at 4kg for the frame set alone. https://s13.postimg.org/msxdxfkqf/image.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turned Out Nice Again Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The old curvey steel one? Sun Microsystems designed? I've got one of those, too big for me really. Interesting bike, very comfy ride but surprisingly heavy, mine comes in at 4kg for the frame set alone. https://s13.postimg.org/msxdxfkqf/image.jpg No, I think mine's older - probably mid-90s: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Interesting mixed views on hydraulic disks here. I've had them for the last 6 years and I have to say I'm a total convert. The stopping power is great, I can go for a year or more on a single set of pads and there is none of the hassle I always find getting pads to line up properly and callipers to come in symmetrically with rim brakes. Oh, and they keep working at -25C - at that temperature some rim brake pad material seems to lose its grip and cables quite often freeze up. Having said that, the process of bleeding them is a pain although once a year is generally more than enough so long as you check the fluid reservoirs on the levers every now and again to make sure they're full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The old curvey steel one? Sun Microsystems designed? I've got one of those, too big for me really. Interesting bike, very comfy ride but surprisingly heavy, mine comes in at 4kg for the frame set alone. Wow, I no idea that Sun had ever designed a bike until I read that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgul Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Interesting mixed views on hydraulic disks here. I've had them for the last 6 years and I have to say I'm a total convert. The stopping power is great, I can go for a year or more on a single set of pads and there is none of the hassle I always find getting pads to line up properly and callipers to come in symmetrically with rim brakes. Oh, and they keep working at -25C - at that temperature some rim brake pad material seems to lose its grip and cables quite often freeze up. Having said that, the process of bleeding them is a pain although once a year is generally more than enough so long as you check the fluid reservoirs on the levers every now and again to make sure they're full. Hmm. -25C. I like taking the bike but that is just masochism. I don't need to worry about brakes not working because at -25C I'm in the car. [again cyclists vs people who ride bicycles] [apologies if you've got very good reasons for riding at -25C - but it does reflect the whole lifestyle-bike thing which is one of the fetishes which is taking over rational thought at the moment] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 No, I think mine's older - probably mid-90s: No need to worry about this happening.[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wBeUVYUPjY] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 [apologies if you've got very good reasons for riding at -25C - but it does reflect the whole lifestyle-bike thing which is one of the fetishes which is taking over rational thought at the moment] Where's the problem? That's a cold morning's ride to school in the Swedish winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Hmm. -25C. I like taking the bike but that is just masochism. I don't need to worry about brakes not working because at -25C I'm in the car. [again cyclists vs people who ride bicycles] [apologies if you've got very good reasons for riding at -25C - but it does reflect the whole lifestyle-bike thing which is one of the fetishes which is taking over rational thought at the moment] I have a very good reason for riding my bike at -25C - it's usually only that cold on a few days a year here - which is that I need to get to work and the alternatives all take a lot longer. It's surprisingly OK with the right kit: balaclava, ski mitts, padded trousers and a proper cold weather coat. If anything, I find it more comfortable cycling here in the winter than in the summer when it gets to 30C with high humidity quite frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgul Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I have a very good reason for riding my bike at -25C - it's usually only that cold on a few days a year here - which is that I need to get to work and the alternatives all take a lot longer. It's surprisingly OK with the right kit: balaclava, ski mitts, padded trousers and a proper cold weather coat. If anything, I find it more comfortable cycling here in the winter than in the summer when it gets to 30C with high humidity quite frequently. Of course - you're in Toronto... different type of cold, of course - but still, fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgul Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Where's the problem? That's a cold morning's ride to school in the Swedish winter. That's different - they're children. They can get a car when they grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Recommendation For An Bicycle I recommend you begin by calling it a bicycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingpoor Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Never dis Mamils, they carry extensive specialised toolkits that can fix virtually any problem very quickly at the side of the road, they will stop & help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
council dweller Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Well, 50 years ago an bicycle was just a form a transport. It`s like fat people were just fat.....`and if you don't agree then that`s just being racist against cyclists and fat people who wear different colours.` I`ll just go for a lie down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knimbies who say No Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 No, I think mine's older - probably mid-90s: Noice! Wow, I no idea that Sun had ever designed a bike until I read that! Ah, I was unclear, the frame has a sticker saying Sun machines did the number crunching, not really the same as what I said before, apologies. If I can be assed I'll take a piccie of the sticker and post it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBlueCat Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Noice! Ah, I was unclear, the frame has a sticker saying Sun machines did the number crunching, not really the same as what I said before, apologies. If I can be assed I'll take a piccie of the sticker and post it here. Got it: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sun-moves-specialized-bicycles-from-the-dirt-trails-to-the-information-superhighway-designed-by-sun-logo-to-appear-on-all-specialized-bikes-76862407.html Interesting piece of tech history all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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