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Conversation last night with friends got onto the subject of council tax.

We are in band B paying £99 per month.

They are in band E paying £156 per month.

Same council, same number in household, similar age group.

I told them to downsize, go STR, be like us.

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Conversation last night with friends got onto the subject of council tax.

We are in band B paying £99 per month.

They are in band E paying £156 per month.

Same council, same number in household, similar age group.

I told them to downsize, go STR, be like us.

I could not find my tax bill but I know I am paying a frightning sum. Single people can buy smart little flats which attact less tax. If you have teen age children however you do need more space for a civilsed life (especially if you have both boys and girls). By withdrawing central government funding of local councils, families with children are being made to pick up a much bigger burden of tax.

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Something silly, about £120 per month, I'm sure they'll whack another 10% on this year, it has got to the stage where the previously compounded increases mean future rises only need to be slight to have an impact.

I can't think where all the money must be going, maybe it's being spunked on solar cells or presumably something equally as useless... those who don't bother or need to pay.

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1800 pounds a year in Stratford-upon-Avon area. Massive hiring of government employees accounts for 43% of the increases over the past 5 years. LOcal authorities are paying solicitors 20% more than the market rate for private practise--go figure... :angry:

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1800 pounds a year in Stratford-upon-Avon area. Massive hiring of government employees accounts for 43% of the increases over the past 5 years. LOcal authorities are paying solicitors 20% more than the market rate for private practise--go figure... :angry:

What about the pensions, you forgot the god damn pensions <_<

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None: it's all included in my rent (along with all the bills other than Internet access).

One of the main reasons why I picked this place is because I could have rented a slightly better flat for 50 quid a month more, but then I'd have had a couple of hundred a month of bills on top.

By withdrawing central government funding of local councils, families with children are being made to pick up a much bigger burden of tax.

Since some huge fraction of council tax goes to pay for schools, that's only fair.

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None: it's all included in my rent (along with all the bills other than Internet access).

Since some huge fraction of council tax goes to pay for schools, that's only fair.

Fair point but what about people who pay their children's education (and many of these are not wealthy). Should'nt they get a tax rebate on the money they pay for school fees. The problem is that the government wants it all ways.

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£210 per month, for 10 months/year. Band G property.

Fair point but what about people who pay their children's education (and many of these are not wealthy). Should'nt they get a tax rebate on the money they pay for school fees. The problem is that the government wants it all ways.

If they got a tax rebate, that's even less money for state education. Why should they get a tax re=bate? State schools are available to them.

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I don't believe many people get that anymore.

That's suprising, according to the national audit office even children that seemingly don't exist manage to claim it.

They're "hard working families" after all, everyone else is a slacker, even if that means everyone else paying in and never getting a button out.

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even the cheapest band is outrages, we rioted and went on a national no pay crusade that was the main thing responsible for removing margaret thatcher from office, and yet now where the cost is an even greater percentage of the average wage than then, we do nothing?

personaly i aint paying it they can stick me in jail i dont care.

and there is a rising amount of people refusing to pay, its a stupid tax that costs to much to administer, and hurts not the poorest of society(there getting benifits) but the low paid workers of society the hardest.

infact its just another thing responsible for the no point in working society through scamming incapacity benifit culture were creating.

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Council tax. electricity, gas, water rates, insurance all included.

Moved to an area with the best local school.

No rent rises.

I'm just a dumb renter who doesn't like inflation. :lol:

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£210 per month, for 10 months/year. Band G property.

If they got a tax rebate, that's even less money for state education. Why should they get a tax re=bate? State schools are available to them.

because they don't use it? Why should someone who doesn't use a service have to pay for it? Considering that a) they probably already pay a shed more central taxes than the average joe, and b ) they already probably pay more local tax for lots of public services that they don't use.... only this one is definitely measurable (as opposed to paying for refuse collection by the kilo for example, which would probably cost more to the CT payer than it was worth for a pay-as-you-use scenario)

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Band B (semi detached) - £67 per month after single person's rebate.

Where abouts are you Swipe?

Me in SW London, Band C (one bed flat) - £1,220/year or £92/month after single person's rebate :angry:

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even the cheapest band is outrages, we rioted and went on a national no pay crusade that was the main thing responsible for removing margaret thatcher from office, and yet now where the cost is an even greater percentage of the average wage than then, we do nothing?

beacause it wasn't challenged on the relative amount, it was stupidly challenged on the method.

personaly i aint paying it they can stick me in jail i dont care.

personaly (sic), I don't think anyone will care. :P

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I could not find my tax bill but I know I am paying a frightning sum. Single people can buy smart little flats which attact less tax. If you have teen age children however you do need more space for a civilsed life (especially if you have both boys and girls). By withdrawing central government funding of local councils, families with children are being made to pick up a much bigger burden of tax.

Bloody typical whinge. Why did you choose to have them then?

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Bloody typical whinge. Why did you choose to have them then?

I don't think I said whether I had children or not. My comments had more to do with contempt than whinge. People pay more than enough in taxes to cover education. The high council tax problem is due to town hall sleaze and waste

Council tax is rapidly becoming a stealth tax on families. I really don't see that families with children should be forced to live in cramped conditions so that council clerks can pay themselves £150K a year.

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The reason we are all paying high taxes, whether it be Council Tax, VAT, Income Tax, or Purchase Tax the answer is simple.

The Government have destroyed the economy of the UK, they now have to pay people to go to work for private business in the form of topups such as Family Credit and the like.

The Country is well and truly Fked up now, as you would expect from Socialists that think the entire world owes them a living and money grows on trees.

I'm afraid nothing is fair in this world, and it never will be, Socialism does not work, going to work and earning a living for real is the only way for a country to progress something forgotten in the UK for nearly a decade!!!!.

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because they don't use it? Why should someone who doesn't use a service have to pay for it? Considering that a) they probably already pay a shed more central taxes than the average joe, and b ) they already probably pay more local tax for lots of public services that they don't use.... only this one is definitely measurable (as opposed to paying for refuse collection by the kilo for example, which would probably cost more to the CT payer than it was worth for a pay-as-you-use scenario)

When you pay your portion of tax that goes towards education you are not paying for your own childs education - you are contributing towards the cost of the nation's education.

Why do so many people have difficulty grapsing this concept?

Our welfare state was based on socialist principals. Everyone contributes to the health of the nation, the education of the nation, defence, infastructure etc.

You pay for some stuff you don't use because it is for the good of the country and society.

I am fed up of hearing middle class parents with kids at private school complaining that they are paying for their children's education twice......no they are not

Some of my tax goes towards stuff I will never use but what's the alternative? Charge everyone for services at source?

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STR - in a (very nice) 3 bed semi. Paying £190 per month - OUCH!

Anyone explain to me why if I was single I could get a big discount no matter what my income, but now as my wife has finished work to raise our children and we have only my wage we still have to pay full amount?

Doesn't seem fair to me :angry:

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