This time Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I always wanted 16 children. Eight white, and eight black, so I could teach them chess! I guess you get you kid all the best electronic gadget, telescopes, spud guns and meccano. Spoiled rotten I guess. Or if it's a female, My Little Pony, and a doll's house. I much preferred telescopes and spud guns to dolls, many girls do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I much preferred telescopes and spud guns to dolls, many girls do. I know. Neither of my sisters were overly fond of pink fluffy tat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Hovis Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 Arguably though that's an investment in the future since it can be difficult to get back into work after a long break plus she'll have more work experience than if she stayed at home. I would usually add that not everything should be assessed in pure monetary terms but in this case that's exactly what they're doing! They probably would be better off if she didn't work but if she likes doing it then put that down as another price worth paying for having what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I would usually add that not everything should be assessed in pure monetary terms but in this case that's exactly what they're doing! They probably would be better off if she didn't work but if she likes doing it then put that down as another price worth paying for having what you want. Quite right Frank! I'm pretty sure myself and my sisters weren't cheap to run, and I don't think we were very rich. There were no tax credits then. Employers had to pay you enough to live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CunningPlan Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I always wanted 16 children. Eight white, and eight black, so I could teach them chess! I guess you get you kid all the best electronic gadget, telescopes, spud guns and meccano. Spoiled rotten I guess. Or if it's a female, My Little Pony, and a doll's house. Quite right Frank! I'm pretty sure myself and my sisters weren't cheap to run, and I don't think we were very rich. There were no tax credits then. Employers had to pay you enough to live on. You can't have been that expensive. You only had half a chess set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 You can't have been that expensive. You only had half a chess set. We didn't even have one team. Enough for billiards though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This time Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Quite right Frank! I'm pretty sure myself and my sisters weren't cheap to run, and I don't think we were very rich. There were no tax credits then. Employers had to pay you enough to live on. Heretic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall of the Nine Hostages Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Quite right Frank! I'm pretty sure myself and my sisters weren't cheap to run, and I don't think we were very rich. There were no tax credits then. Employers had to pay you enough to live on. My dad worked on the buses for London Transport. My mum worked as a cleaner, a dinner lady, meter reader. They raised four kids. We lived in a council house, but we had holidays (in the UK) and I don't recall feeling desperately poor or that it bothered me much at all. My dad retired with a reasonable pension. Is that possible now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Heretic!! No, a lot of cheapksate employers plead poverty so the State (into which I and many others pay, except Frank, because he is an accountant ) can subsidise them. . In a similar way we subsidise cheesy landlords with housing benefit. Am I alone in seeing the stupidity of this? Rhetorical question in this place I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 My dad worked on the buses for London Transport. My mum worked as a cleaner, a dinner lady, meter reader. They raised four kids. We lived in a council house, but we had holidays (in the UK) and I don't recall feeling desperately poor or that it bothered me much at all. My dad retired with a reasonable pension. Is that possible now? I never felt poor, lots of brothers and sisters.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall of the Nine Hostages Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Rod Liddle 38:27 in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddog Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Is a £50k per year combined salary really racking it in? All in this article seem to have salaries paying somewhere around the average, although some with elevated job titles. One of the highest earners was the nurse. This should be more of an article about inflation, along the lines £50k sounds like a lot, but really with house prices inflation it buys you f all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 My dad worked on the buses for London Transport. My mum worked as a cleaner, a dinner lady, meter reader. They raised four kids. We lived in a council house, but we had holidays (in the UK) and I don't recall feeling desperately poor or that it bothered me much at all. My dad retired with a reasonable pension. Is that possible now?. I almost don't think it is. You either leave with half a million pounds as a failed director of the BBC for a few months, or a very naughty chief banker. Luckily, I have guns beans and books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Winkie is an Anchoress and lives in a small room attached to a Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Quite right Frank! I'm pretty sure myself and my sisters weren't cheap to run, and I don't think we were very rich. There were no tax credits then. Employers had to pay you enough to live on. Very true Mr Pin.....we were all in it together, and the things that mattered were mostly free...the rest cost very little.....nobody to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Winkie is an Anchoress and lives in a small room attached to a Church. I only like old buildings when they are used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Very true Mr Pin.....we were all in it together, and the things that mattered were mostly free...the rest cost very little.....nobody to impress. I'm not too impressed that taxpayers' money (And that's most of us except Frank, who is a trucking accountant) is used to provide "working tax credits" to employers with a failed business, that can't afford to employ people with a proper wage, and then we have to chip in with "housing benefit" for these working people, because the rent is too high. Feel the free market oh landlords, and you would be bankrupt in months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I only like old buildings when they are used. That's a full time job for the devout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I'm not too impressed that taxpayers' money (And that's most of us except Frank, who is a trucking accountant) is used to provide "working tax credits" to employers with a failed business, that can't afford to employ people with a proper wage, and then we have to chip in with "housing benefit" for these working people, because the rent is too high. Feel the free market oh landlords, and you would be bankrupt in months! Quite right.....special bonuses to some, both rich and poor, only make everything more expensive for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 That's a full time job for the devout! Cleaning the cobwebs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPin Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Quite right.....special bonuses to some, both rich and poor, only make everything more expensive for everyone. My lovely bonus this year was £400. It was a bit of money I didn't bet on getting though! I don't think I will retire on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 My lovely bonus this year was £400. It was a bit of money I didn't bet on getting though! I don't think I will retire on it. Perhaps.....the middle are seen as not special enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-percent Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 My dad worked on the buses for London Transport. My mum worked as a cleaner, a dinner lady, meter reader. They raised four kids. We lived in a council house, but we had holidays (in the UK) and I don't recall feeling desperately poor or that it bothered me much at all. My dad retired with a reasonable pension. Is that possible now? You are Sadiq Khan and I claim my five pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 [quote name="SpectrumFX" Surely some of these couples would actually be better off if one of the parents gave up work Probably be better off heading north. The housing stock is bottom end sub 100k standard by northern standards, not the princely sums they have shelled out, 260k in 2009 in one case and a thousand plus a month for an ex council house. Would certainly cut the outgoings. Its not all smoke and unemployment up here some areas have near zero unemployment and solid Tory majorities just we dont pay silly prices for houses. Peak District, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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