right_freds_dead Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 hi, i flogged my old landrover this week. im on the hunt for a new motor. not sure what to do. myself i have an incling for £200 cars you can throw away after a year. no need to lock them, clean them, worry about them. i see a peugeot estate diesel for £200 and a bmw coupe for £10k. my working friends all say the bmw, but i dunno. granted it'll drive better, look better and pull leggy airhead bint, but will it make me happy ? 10k happy ? the other shed is a real ex taxi type. no street cred, but a comfy old motor. reliable being a diesel. im into keeping the money as money awaiting the correction. but then i think. got to live. bird flu might kill us all next year, enjoy life ect. whats your views. £200 or £10k ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Pirata Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 hi, i flogged my old landrover this week. im on the hunt for a new motor. not sure what to do. myself i have an incling for £200 cars you can throw away after a year. no need to lock them, clean them, worry about them. i see a peugeot estate diesel for £200 and a bmw coupe for £10k. my working friends all say the bmw, but i dunno. granted it'll drive better, look better and pull leggy airhead bint, but will it make me happy ? 10k happy ? the other shed is a real ex taxi type. no street cred, but a comfy old motor. reliable being a diesel. im into keeping the money as money awaiting the correction. but then i think. got to live. bird flu might kill us all next year, enjoy life ect. whats your views. £200 or £10k ? Why not pay £10,000 for the Peugeot with £9,800 cash back? Then you can say you've got a £10,000 car and still get the leggy airhead bints. It will probably drive better too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Erm how much tax is on the £200 one? If its got at least 6 months mot on it go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushroom Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 It's heart or head isn't it. You don't say what Beemer is exactly but look on BM forums for trouble points as some can have problems. Are you a spannerman? If not and you go for BM, find a good independent BM garage. Flip a (gold) coin for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Baron Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I run a nice family car as the main vehicle and for the second car I always buy a banger; as long as it's got a long MOT you can just throw it away at the end of the year. The best one I bought was an old Renault Estate for which I paid £80; amazingly it gave me seven years of reliable motoring before it failed the MOT through rust. Cheap motoring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Europa Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 my working friends all say the bmw, but i dunno. granted it'll drive better, look better and pull leggy airhead bint, but will it make me happy ? 10k happy ? Go for the BMW - you'll pull like a train (and yes, a leggy airhead will bring a great deal of joy ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichM Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Knock em down to 150 quid. Not point in splashing the cash around RFD. I am driving a free Rover L reg, beige interior, dent in driver's door (cuased by yours truly, sadly...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AteMoose Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/Toyota_GT4/S...lica_ST185.html You can buy my GT4 off me for 1.5k Its black.... and is having minor turbo troubles atm tho ... Looks great inside and out, 4wd, and the 200 bhp makes it quite nippy... and dizzy blondes love it and i still get a massive grin on your face years after i bought it.. The only problem is i dont want anything slower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quangolicious Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 10k happy ? The 10k's worth of happy feeling lasts for a few weeks. After that it's just what you use to get from A to B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 err, you live in salford and are not sure which car to buy - is this a wind up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Best bird-pulling car I had was a Fiat X1/9 that I bought for 400 quid with the rear wheelarches held on with tape. There's obviously something girls like about a guy in a black convertible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushroom Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/Toyota_GT4/S...lica_ST185.html You can buy my GT4 off me for 1.5k Its black.... and is having minor turbo troubles atm tho ... Looks great inside and out, 4wd, and the 200 bhp makes it quite nippy... and dizzy blondes love it and i still get a massive grin on your face years after i bought it.. The only problem is i dont want anything slower If standard, mend it, keep it. Gotta be a future classic. The turbo trouble might just be that illegal restrictor stuck in the closed position! (joke for those in the know). To retain the power and awd with space can I suggest Sir tries the Scooby or Evo experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50:50 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 hi, i flogged my old landrover this week. im on the hunt for a new motor. not sure what to do. myself i have an incling for £200 cars you can throw away after a year. no need to lock them, clean them, worry about them. i see a peugeot estate diesel for £200 and a bmw coupe for £10k. my working friends all say the bmw, but i dunno. granted it'll drive better, look better and pull leggy airhead bint, but will it make me happy ? 10k happy ? the other shed is a real ex taxi type. no street cred, but a comfy old motor. reliable being a diesel. im into keeping the money as money awaiting the correction. but then i think. got to live. bird flu might kill us all next year, enjoy life ect. whats your views. £200 or £10k ? Driving round in old bangers isn't a good idea in my opinion. Ok, they're cheap to begin with but it will probably break down and although the parts may be cheap can you aford the time to sort it out? Also, old bangers are not generally that fuel efficient and lack the safety features of a new car. How well would an old banger protect you if some idiot crashed into you (I think this is the most cmpelling reason to go for a newer car)? Having said all that, its probably not neccessary to go for a car costing £10k and you could probably find a good motor for a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzMosiz Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I drive a sh**y 1997 Rover 214i that is dented. I drive it to Huddersfield 3 times a month (approx 1200 mile round trip for all 3 trips) - not too bad, though I would prefer something quicker and more comfortable but am too tight to buy a car whilst this one is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sighmoon Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Cheap cars are great as long as you join the AA / RAC / Greenflag whatever. Another alternative if you want thrifty and flash is to buy a classic ( pre-1974). You get free road tax, cheaper insurance, and no depreciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 hi, i flogged my old landrover this week. im on the hunt for a new motor. not sure what to do. myself i have an incling for £200 cars you can throw away after a year. no need to lock them, clean them, worry about them. i see a peugeot estate diesel for £200 and a bmw coupe for £10k. my working friends all say the bmw, but i dunno. granted it'll drive better, look better and pull leggy airhead bint, but will it make me happy ? 10k happy ? the other shed is a real ex taxi type. no street cred, but a comfy old motor. reliable being a diesel. im into keeping the money as money awaiting the correction. but then i think. got to live. bird flu might kill us all next year, enjoy life ect. whats your views. £200 or £10k ? I reckon spend approx 2K down at BCA in Belle Vue. Go there with your budget in mind, do not go over it. Chances are you`ll get something failry good, 4-5 year old astra/mondeo/escort, 70K, ex contract hire( well maintained). Go there tomorrow, get the feel, then go back next Tuesday to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasket37 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 agreed - there are squads of cheap ex fleet ford mondeos & the like about last model astra is a great buy have a look at the car-by-car breakdown on http://www.honestjohn.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sacks Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Driving round in old bangers isn't a good idea in my opinion. Ok, they're cheap to begin with but it will probably break down and although the parts may be cheap can you aford the time to sort it out? Also, old bangers are not generally that fuel efficient and lack the safety features of a new car. How well would an old banger protect you if some idiot crashed into you (I think this is the most cmpelling reason to go for a newer car)? Having said all that, its probably not neccessary to go for a car costing £10k and you could probably find a good motor for a lot less. I drive a 1981 Volvo 244DL, so that's the crash protection sorted. It runs on LPG @ 38p a litre, so it's cheap to run. If you service it at the recommended intervals there is only one other part that will catch you out and cause a breakdown and it costs £1. I paid £90 for it back in 1998, last year I took it on holiday, drove 2500 motorway miles cruising at 75-80mph, no probs. Fred, buy a banger. Friend of mine bought a three year old Laguna, first MOT cost £1300! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 agreed - there are squads of cheap ex fleet ford mondeos & the like about last model astra is a great buy have a look at the car-by-car breakdown on http://www.honestjohn.co.uk Yup, I'd go for a dull, mass-produced motor. Something like this: http://www.mh2k.com/information.aspx?v=967&mo=161&dm=0 A Ford Focus, a few years old for <£6k. OK you don't get the inverse-vanity effect of driving a pile of junk and scoring anti-consumer points amongst wet knickered tree huggers. But they're cheapish to buy and probably won't go wrong. One of my old lecturers was an environmentalist who made a point of driving around in an old Metro. Apparently they churn out 30x the pollution of a modern Ford Ka. Material symbolism works in mysterious ways. Edited environmentalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockdoctor Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 My first car (Vauxhall Chevette) cost me £25 in 1985 - I was a student. I drove the thing all round France and it only had to go in the bin when an uninformed MoT guy failed it for rust (it had a box member construction so rusty sills shouldn't have been terminal). After numerous bangers over the years I sold my last one for £100 (Audi 80). It had never let me down in 3 years. My current car I splashed out £3000 for. It is a Mondeo estate, goes like the clappers and is the best car I've had so far. Bangers all the way is my recommendation. Never wanted a new car - just watching it rapidly depreciate would take all the pleasure out of owning one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sacks Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 OK you don't get the inverse-vanity effect of driving a pile of junk and scoring anti-consumer points amongst wet knickered tree huggers. But they're cheapish to buy and probably won't go wrong. One of my old lecturers was an enovinmentalist who made a point of driving around in an old Metro. Apparently they churn out 30x the pollution of a modern Ford Ka. Material symbolism works in mysterious ways. You had something in common then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Possitt Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 One of my old lecturers was an enovinmentalist who made a point of driving around in an old Metro. Apparently they churn out 30x the pollution of a modern Ford Ka. Material symbolism works in mysterious ways. 30x the pollution is a bit of an exageration - until recently the Ford Ka used an engine design dating back to the 1960's anyway, albeit with the addition of electronic engine management & a catalytic converter. The manufacture of a new car is said to produce roughly the same amount of pollution as driving the car 100,000 miles - it's almost always more environmently friendly to keep an old car going as long as possible rather than buy a new one every few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Also, old bangers are not generally that fuel efficient and lack the safety features of a new car. Well, the X1/9 did around 35mpg on long trips, and was one of the safest cars of the early 70s: side impact bars, roll bar, six feet of boot in front of you to crumple and engine and boot to absorb impacts from behind. I know of people who went off the road at 80mph and walked away, and once you hit 30-40mpg you really don't gain much from improvements in fuel consumption unless you drive a heck of a long way. On the downside, in a real bad crash I could easily see the bonnet release snapping and the bonnet going through the windscreen to slice your head off, and going under a truck wouldn't have been fun. Not sure the sills on that one would have held in a crash either, but it was also maneuverable enough you could generally avoid a potential accident by not being there when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 agreed - there are squads of cheap ex fleet ford mondeos & the like about last model astra is a great buy have a look at the car-by-car breakdown on http://www.honestjohn.co.uk How old is that copy For example, using 'worst case scenario' retail-to-trade values, last June's 'Glass's Guide' prices for a 15,000-mile 99T Ford Mondeo GLXTD with aircon were £9,725 retail, £8,400 trade. This June's prices for the same car with 27,000 miles were £8,000 retail, £6,725 trade. A theoretical retail purchase-to-trade-in loss of £3,000 over a year. On the other hand, last June's 'Glass's Guide' prices for a 15,000 mile 99T VW Passat TDISE 90 with aircon were £13,425 retail, £11,800 trade. This June's prices for the same car with 27,000 miles were £11,525 retail, £10,250 trade. A theoretical retail-to-trade-in loss of £3,175 over a year. http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/buy_sell/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Driving round in old bangers isn't a good idea in my opinion. Ok, they're cheap to begin with but it will probably break down and although the parts may be cheap can you aford the time to sort it out? Also, old bangers are not generally that fuel efficient and lack the safety features of a new car. How well would an old banger protect you if some idiot crashed into you (I think this is the most cmpelling reason to go for a newer car)? Was running around in a 1991 ford escort for four years. Cost £1,400. Repairs were £250 for a new clutch + £80 for an exhaust down pipe & £50 for a new altenator. Let me down once in four years if I remember correctly. That said I scrapped it in the end partly for safety reasons. Generally £2-3,000 will buy you a relatively modern car that should give you years of trouble free motoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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