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I've not seen this mentioned on any of our news websites, have you? I saw this on CNN.com (europe).

Although this is apparently a yearly occurence, surely its worth a mention after they revelled (not sure thats the word I'm looking for) in reoprting the riots?

Edit:Sorry, can't post a link.

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I've not seen this mentioned on any of our news websites, have you? I saw this on CNN.com (europe).

Although this is apparently a yearly occurence, surely its worth a mention after they revelled (not sure thats the word I'm looking for) in reoprting the riots?

Edit:Sorry, can't post a link.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticl...&archived=False

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Ever since the Eurozone countries started to go down the more British way of trying to run as small a defecit as posssible and slowly dismantle and scale back their welfare state the poor have got massively poorer. It's easy for the UK to be smug but there were riots galore back in the 80s and early ninties when the poor were taking a hammering then.

Oddly, seeing as inequality has accellerated under the hard-right NuLabour regime once more we're surely due for a riot or two.

It's one thing that's hardly mentioned here. What would more regular acts of civil unrest do to the economy, the government, and policy? What if some of the half-million families in temporary accomodation took to the streets joined by all sorts of dissaffected people?

We've had a decade relatively free of unrest, but even the most browbeaten and apathetic populations don't keep taking it up the rectum forever.

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Ever since the Eurozone countries started to go down the more British way of trying run as small a defecit as posssible and slowly dismantle and scale back their welfare state the poor have got massively poorer. It's easy for the UK to be smug but there were riots galore back in the 80s and early ninties when the poor were taking a hammering then.

Oddly, seeing as inequality has accellerated under the hard-right NuLabour regieme once more we're surely due for a riot or two.

It's one thing that hardly mentioned here. What would more regular acts of civil unrest do to the economy, the government, and policy? What if some of the half-million families in temporary accomodation took to the streets joined by all sorts of dissaffected people?

We've had a decade relatively free of unrest, but even the most browbeaten and apathetic populations don't keep taking it up the rectum forever.

I remember "our" riots, I dont think they got through anything like this number of cars, didnt they smash shop windows and loot them for TVs and cloths? It just seems strange that its always cars that are the target in France.

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Oddly, seeing as inequality has accellerated under the hard-right NuLabour regieme once more we're surely due for a riot or two.

hard-right ! your joking right ?

The working man amongst other things is getting sick to death of paying for people that make it to our immigration offices and the estates full of chavs and the like.

Was a time when working hard ensure a better standard of living but look around and see new entrants to the UK being given free houses and a leg up to take top jobs on the local labour councils.

Yes we may see riots but not in the way you are thinking

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Ever since the Eurozone countries started to go down the more British way of trying run as small a defecit as posssible and slowly dismantle and scale back their welfare state the poor have got massively poorer. It's easy for the UK to be smug but there were riots galore back in the 80s and early ninties when the poor were taking a hammering then.

Oddly, seeing as inequality has accellerated under the hard-right NuLabour regieme once more we're surely due for a riot or two.

It's one thing that hardly mentioned here. What would more regular acts of civil unrest do to the economy, the government, and policy? What if some of the half-million families in temporary accomodation took to the streets joined by all sorts of dissaffected people?

We've had a decade relatively free of unrest, but even the most browbeaten and apathetic populations don't keep taking it up the rectum forever.

I suspect that's what thes ultra-draconian police powers are there to curb,maybe Nu Liebour know what they are trying to create and are gearing up to quell the inevitible backlash....only those with skills,dodgy contacts or money will be able to defect....and even then if it does turn into a closed shop I wouldn't count on skills being a passport for too long.

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Face it.. the mainstream television media are not going to feed you horror stories about immigrants.

Did anybody see the CH4 documentary on the French Riots?

Whilst it was clear that there was a certain level of ethnic profiling by the police it was also clear that the white female reporter was unable to move or report in the suburbs without the protection of local youth. This was glossed over in favour of how alientated the immigrants felt. Which begs the question if it's so bad in France why not go back to the old country?

One Black youth cited the fact theat whites have "the best families, best holidays and the best christmas presents" ffs. :angry:

Whilst the deaths of the 2 immigrant kids who decided to hide in an electrical substation (duh!) was the excuse given for an orgy of violence and arson the deliberate murder of an indigenous Frenchman by immigrants did not provoke a racial backlash from the white community. Compare that to the much more robust response of the white community to Arab violence in Australia.

It would be interesting to know the financial costs of the rioting to France as economic benefit of immigration is one of the lines trotted out by the let 'em all in brigade.

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Compare that to the much more robust response of the white community to Arab violence in Australia.

What was that? And when please?

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What was that? And when please?

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The violence was sparked by attacks on 3 white lifeguards by men believed to be Muslim Lebanese Arabs and occured against a backdrop of inter ethnic violence and gang rapes.

e.g....

Racist rapes: Finally the truth comes out

By Miranda Devine

July 14 2002

The Sun-Herald

So now we know the facts, straight from the Supreme Court, that a group of Lebanese Muslim gang rapists from south-western Sydney hunted their victims on the basis of their ethnicity and subjected them to hours of degrading, dehumanising torture. The young women, and girls as young as 14, were "sluts" and "Aussie pigs", the rapists said. So now that some of the perpetrators are in jail, will those people who cried racism and media "sensationalism" hang their heads in shame? Hardly.

The journalists, academics, legal brains and politicians who tried to claim last August that the gang rapes of south-western Sydney were just a run-of-the-mill police blotter story being beaten up by racists, scaremongers and political opportunists don't ever want to acknowledge the truth about that ugly episode in Australian history. They don't want to acknowledge the fear and tension that ran through a part of Sydney they rarely visit and can never understand.

This newspaper was the first to report the story, which had been common knowledge in police and media circles, and it has never censored the race element.

Even last week, with the conviction of two brothers for their part in the gang rape of Miss D, who was 16 when she was held at gunpoint in a Greenacre park, there were media outlets that downplayed the story and air-brushed race from it.

Yet the victims have been crying out for the truth to be told. In court on Friday, one victim gave another a card on which she had written

"Truth is Justice".

In August, when Judge Megan Latham handed out laughably lenient sentences to three men in one gang rape case, which were later more than doubled on appeal, she made a special point of debunking the race link: "There is no evidence before me of any racial element in the commission of these offences," she said. "There is nothing said or done by the offenders which provides the slightest basis for imputing to them some discrimination in terms of the nationality of their victims."

Except that later one of the victims complained her victim impact statement had been "censored" of any "ethnic" references by prosecutors intent on a plea bargain. She was convinced she was raped because of her ethnicity. "You deserve it because you're an Australian," the rapists told her during the five-hour attack.

It's just so inconvenient of the victims to insist on telling the truth.

"I looked in his eyes. I had never seen such indifference," one 18-year-old victim, codenamed Miss C, told the court, remembering one of the 14 men who called her "Aussie pig", gang raped her 25 times over a six-hour period in Bankstown and Chullora, and then turned a hose on her. "I'm going to f*** you Leb style," he said.

Fourteen gang rapists have been convicted, or pleaded guilty, thanks to the courage of seven victims who testified for days in court as their tormentors smirked nearby, the men's families threatened them and defence lawyers suggested they had enjoyed the rapes.

"They're very brave, very strong and very courageous young women," said Salvation Army Major Joyce Harmer, who held the hands of many of the victims through the trials. "They knew this was something they had to do."

There were encouraging signs by the end of the week that some Muslim community leaders were talking of "Muslims accepting responsibility that they may have failed to do things that would have prevented these things from happening", as Amjad Mehboob, chief executive for the Federation of Islamic Councils, told ABC Radio on Friday.

Keysar Trad, vice-president of the Lebanese Muslim Association, said: "It is certainly a disgrace to our community that people who were born to a Muslim family would commit such heinous crimes." But he went on to say it was "rather unfair" that the rapists' ethnicity had been reported "because these boys themselves have completely disaffiliated themselves from their culture or their religion".

Yes, it is unfair that the vast bulk of law-abiding Lebanese Muslim boys and men should be smeared by association. But their temporary discomfort may be necessary so that the powerful social tool of shame is applied to the families and communities that nurtured the rapists, gave them succour and brought them up with such a hatred of Australia's dominant culture and contempt for its women that they think of an 18-year-old girl, dressed for a job interview in her best suit, sitting on a train reading a book, as a slut.

These were racist crimes. They were hate crimes. The rapists chose their victims on the basis of race. That fact is crucial to this story. If the perpetrators had been Anglo-Celtic Australians, the furore would have been enormous. No newspaper would have left out that fact and you can bet the guilt and shame would have been spread far and wide.

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Yes as always the media only reports what Blair and Co wants you to know and if it needs to be twisted so pigs ears tasted better then roast beef then so be it.

Are we happy about immigrants taking our jobs

Are we happy about the crime rate

Are we happy about our jobs going abroad

Blair and the media would have you think so.

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Thanks for the link Solvent Cell.

No problem.

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Ever since the Eurozone countries started to go down the more British way of trying to run as small a defecit as posssible and slowly dismantle and scale back their welfare state the poor have got massively poorer.

Hrm.

France and Germany spend nearly 30% of GDP on welfare, slightly more than the Nordic countries, the French state also accounts for 55% of GDP in France. The only thing that has occured in France is structural reform like hiving the autoroutes off to private groups (may not happen) or floating part of EDF, there has been no cuts in welfare aside from a few bourgeois functionaries moaning about their €60k state pensions arrving a year later than expected, hardly a concern in Clichy-sous-Bois where most people are locked out or actively kept out of this bountiful world, lest they upset the "macrosocial imbalance".

Fear of disrupting this this cosy relationship prevents the creation of much needed jobs for these young people, better they be thrown on the scrapheap than potentially exploited, not least because all those bourgeois jobs rely on perpetuating this state of dependency and desperation. These kids see it for what it is and have the time of their hands and also know how to express their distaste in a way that most befits the camera.

I suppose there is a theory that still believes that the key to happiness is the lack of want, but the numbers don't stack up, only 6.5% are living below the poverty line in France compared to 17% in the UK, by that measure 1500 cars should have been torched last night in Britain, but the world is more complicated than that.

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With the riots, they have achieved that now the government deals with their problems (or tries). The French government has suddenly find money and ressources to put in the troubled aeras ; the government promised more housing, more help for the unemployed, a better integration in the school system, ect...

I do not think that the government had put this effort in those aeras otherwise.

The rioting youth has just done it like the French farmers (when they protest, they often destroy local council's buildings!) ! :P

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