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An Honest Answer From The 20 Somethings

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I am not a member of the BNP myself nor have I ever voted them, but I have involved myself with some members from the local branch and have helped out leafletting and campaigning. Two of my children have also designed a BNP leaflet.

It is probably safe to say that the majority of 20 somethings are pretty fed up with the state of Britain and feel hard done by. However, my findings are that the BNP is a hard sell to the 20 something age group and nobody knows why. The bulk of BNP support comes from retired people and parents of young children in the 30s and early 40s. Support from the baby boomer generation is chequered, but the BNP knows exactly why.

If you are a 20 something and feel fed up with this country, but you don't support the BNP then please explain why. Is it because the BNP is failing to address the major issues and problems affecting 20 somethings or is it for another reason? I would like to see sensible intelligent answers only. Anyone who wishes to come out with trite statements like "Nazi racist filth" need not reply to this post. An example of intelligent criticism could be the issue of house prices.

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I am not a member of the BNP myself nor have I ever voted them, but I have involved myself with some members from the local branch and have helped out leafletting and campaigning. Two of my children have also designed a BNP leaflet.

It is probably safe to say that the majority of 20 somethings are pretty fed up with the state of Britain and feel hard done by. However, my findings are that the BNP is a hard sell to the 20 something age group and nobody knows why. The bulk of BNP support comes from retired people and parents of young children in the 30s and early 40s. Support from the baby boomer generation is chequered, but the BNP knows exactly why.

If you are a 20 something and feel fed up with this country, but you don't support the BNP then please explain why. Is it because the BNP is failing to address the major issues and problems affecting 20 somethings or is it for another reason? I would like to see sensible intelligent answers only. Anyone who wishes to come out with trite statements like "Nazi racist filth" need not reply to this post. An example of intelligent criticism could be the issue of house prices.

Please explain why some one should support BNP.

Explain your statement that Older generation is supporting BNP.

Please do explain the relevance of this topic to house prices.

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the BNP seem to forget that a lot of their support comes from unemployable louts who moan about immigrants taking "their" jobs,but can't be arsed to get off the dole-queue themselves.

that's when times are good and the economy holds up.

...when a downturn comes the english booted out of jobs then moan about the immigrants,and the louts listed about turn violent.

.....ultimately if the louts had got up off their backsides in the first place then the racial hatred would not manifest itself on the way down.

race is just a convenient focal point for tha anger....where the real blame lies with the louts and the politicians in equal measure.

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The BNP has approximately 10,000 members and apart from those who are retired, the majority are in employment. The BNP also has quite a number of professional people as members including lawyers, accountants, engineers, doctors, and actuaries.

It is untrue to say that the BNP is a party of unemployed louts. They probably were 10 years ago when their membership was approx 300 but those days are history.

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Anyone who wishes to come out with trite statements like "Nazi racist filth" need not reply to this post.

Why, pray tell? Because ANYONE WHO ASSISTS THE BNP IS INDEED NAZI ******ING RACIST ******ING FILTH. ****** OFF! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

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but it is worth pointing out that their views should be heard.

I don't personally agree with them but the media has a responsibility to report impartially.....something which is not doing.

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It is untrue to say that the BNP is a party of unemployed louts. They probably were 10 years ago when their membership was approx 300 but those days are history.

Viterbi is probably correct here. The days when the BNP/NF were mostly unemployed skinheads are long gone. I do not think the membership ever went as low as 300, but it was certainly in the low thousands in the late Thatcher era (the far right's low period).

Since the early-to-mid 1990s the BNP, much like far-right parties across Europe, has become much more media-savvy and is furiously trying to portray itself as respectable.

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The BNP has approximately 10,000 members and apart from those who are retired, the majority are in employment. The BNP also has quite a number of professional people as members including lawyers, accountants, engineers, doctors, and actuaries.

It is untrue to say that the BNP is a party of unemployed louts. They probably were 10 years ago when their membership was approx 300 but those days are history.

10,000 members. Thats scary in itself.

There may be the odd doctor or lawyer in the BNP but looking at the polls the majority of support seems to come from the poorest, most deprived parts of the country.

Luckily in this country we have a good history of dealing with political and economic adversity without turning to the far right, and I think that is something we can be proud of. The same cannot be said for most other western european countries.

We may face economic difficulties over the next few years, but I feel sure we won't turn to the extremists to 'sort it out' for us.

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I think people vote BNP because it is the only party who might do something about the current state of affairs plus they are tired of voting for Labour and conservative(thats me!) and getting a kick in the teeth.

When middle class people are increasingly taxed, over worked but yet the lower class seem to get paid just as much to do their menial tasks or even payed more than a middle class occupation to sit at home and breed future thieves. In the papers this week, it is all about asylum seekers who are criminals, or criminals who will never be caught or punished (1 in a 100 crimes punished) + CPS laywers getting ripped to pieces.

About time someone hard had a bigger look at the issues and tried to resolve.

Unfortunately BNP will never get that many votes just because of the Name and the accosiations people think about when mentioned (IE Nazi racist scum etc).

Im bored of cleaners and bus drivers striking so they can get more money. Get the poles in to do the jobs. If they never went to school why can they demand to be paid more??

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When middle class people are increasingly taxed, over worked but yet the lower class seem to get paid just as much to do their menial tasks or even payed more than a middle class occupation to sit at home and breed future thieves.

The thing is - it tends to be the 'lower class' as you call it who vote BNP.

In the papers this week, it is all about asylum seekers who are criminals, or criminals who will never be caught or punished (1 in a 100 crimes punished) + CPS laywers getting ripped to pieces.

The Daily Mail per chance?

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todays and yesterfays issues ;-))

We all know its true thiugh.

Another statistic is one policeman on average only catches/solves one crime per month. Pretty shocking!!

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Hate, prejudice and intolerance have never been the answer to anything. No one can blame a different race or nationality for our problems, our problems are our own doing, passing the blame to someone else will acomplish nothing.

Why don't I vote BNP?, because I have a concience.

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todays and yesterfays issues ;-))

We all know its true thiugh.

Another statistic is one policeman on average only catches/solves one crime per month. Pretty shocking!!

The Daily Mail also supported Hitler during the 30s.

Pretty shocking!!!

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The thing is - it tends to be the 'lower class' as you call it who vote BNP.

I would doubt it if many manual workers are BNP supporters. The BNP probably has a few token supporters from every socio-economic background, but their key demographic (as is common in the far right) are upper-working to lower-middle class people.

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I am not a member of the BNP myself nor have I ever voted them, but I have involved myself with some members from the local branch and have helped out leafletting and campaigning. Two of my children have also designed a BNP leaflet.

It is probably safe to say that the majority of 20 somethings are pretty fed up with the state of Britain and feel hard done by. However, my findings are that the BNP is a hard sell to the 20 something age group and nobody knows why. The bulk of BNP support comes from retired people and parents of young children in the 30s and early 40s. Support from the baby boomer generation is chequered, but the BNP knows exactly why.

If you are a 20 something and feel fed up with this country, but you don't support the BNP then please explain why. Is it because the BNP is failing to address the major issues and problems affecting 20 somethings or is it for another reason? I would like to see sensible intelligent answers only. Anyone who wishes to come out with trite statements like "Nazi racist filth" need not reply to this post. An example of intelligent criticism could be the issue of house prices.

There is a great deal of political apathy amongst youngsters even amongst students who in the past would have been the most politicaly aware and active. I think it started in the America when students where beaten

into submission over the vietnam war and went all individualistic.

People are not ideological or political anymore, they are consumers.

I can understand people worrying about immigration and turning to the BNP but those with any intelligence

will see it is fascist organisation with no solutions.

Big business encourage immigrants over here to work as cheap labour, and the governments are complicit in this. How is the BNP going to stop this? they cant.

The only thing to do is ensure the immigrants get paid the same rates as a western worker and big business

would soon stop employing them, problem solved.

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I would doubt it if many manual workers are BNP supporters. The BNP probably has a few token supporters from every socio-economic background, but their key demographic (as is common in the far right) are upper-working to lower-middle class people.

frugalista

I suppose it depends how you define 'upper working class' etc. But places like Oldham and Millwall don't strike me as 'upper working class' areas. Although I'm not really sure what upper working class means, so you may be right.

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There may be the odd doctor or lawyer in the BNP but looking at the polls the majority of support seems to come from the poorest, most deprived parts of the country.

That is because there really aren't any other parties that stick up for poor white people. Labour has totally betrayed and abandoned this section of society and there is precious little evidence that they will ever stand up for the interests of poor white people again. The heartless capitalists of the Tories and Lib-Dems are a totally unappealing choice although the Lib-Dems have made some inroads at local level probably as a result of protest votes and noticing the cracks in the pavements. The far left has nothing relevant to offer and fails to address the problems affecting most poor white people.

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I am not a member of the BNP myself nor have I ever voted them, but I have involved myself with some members from the local branch and have helped out leafletting and campaigning. Two of my children have also designed a BNP leaflet.

It is probably safe to say that the majority of 20 somethings are pretty fed up with the state of Britain and feel hard done by. However, my findings are that the BNP is a hard sell to the 20 something age group and nobody knows why. The bulk of BNP support comes from retired people and parents of young children in the 30s and early 40s. Support from the baby boomer generation is chequered, but the BNP knows exactly why.

If you are a 20 something and feel fed up with this country, but you don't support the BNP then please explain why. Is it because the BNP is failing to address the major issues and problems affecting 20 somethings or is it for another reason? I would like to see sensible intelligent answers only. Anyone who wishes to come out with trite statements like "Nazi racist filth" need not reply to this post. An example of intelligent criticism could be the issue of house prices.

However much the BNP try to 'smarten' themselves up, they will always be tarnished and quite rightly so. Nick Griffin is supposed to be a 'moderate' yet has indulged in Holocaust revisionism and has authored a book called the 'Mindebenders' about Jewish influence in the media. So are they really that different to Mosley and his nasty gang of Nazi sympathizers?

I should point out that I'm 25, absolutely loathe squalid "modern Britain" and am also disillusioned with the Tories.

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People in their 20s have recently passed through a dumbed down and simplified education system and they are likely to believe anything the BBC, CRE, MTV etc tell them to believe. That is a blend of socialism, multiculturalism and the cult of the victim.

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How is the BNP going to stop this? they cant.

1. Withdraw from the EU by repealing the European Communities Act. This will allow Britain to regain control of its borders and end the policy of free movement of people from other EU countries into Britain.

2. Impose very tight immigration controls to make it very difficult for immigrants to come to Britain.

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Hate, prejudice and intolerance have never been the answer to anything. No one can blame a different race or nationality for our problems, our problems are our own doing, passing the blame to someone else will acomplish nothing.

Well said!

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That is because there really aren't any other parties that stick up for poor white people. Labour has totally betrayed and abandoned this section of society and there is precious little evidence that they will ever stand up for the interests of poor white people again. The heartless capitalists of the Tories and Lib-Dems are a totally unappealing choice although the Lib-Dems have made some inroads at local level probably as a result of protest votes and noticing the cracks in the pavements. The far left has nothing relevant to offer and fails to address the problems affecting most poor white people.

What are you on about?

Does the term 'poor white people' include Eastern Europeans? They're usually poor and white. Or are you talking about 'Anglo Saxons'? Trouble is, they're just immigrants from Saxony, so perhaps we should deport them all.

You see - the trouble with racism is that it always falls over at the first hurdle. The 'common sense' hurdle!

And you're asking why no one votes BNP?

If we threw everyone out of Islington who wasn't from there, houses would be cheaper there.

Actually that's not a bad idea - who do I vote for? :D

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However much the BNP try to 'smarten' themselves up, they will always be tarnished and quite rightly so. Nick Griffin is supposed to be a 'moderate' yet has indulged in Holocaust revisionism and has authored a book called the 'Mindebenders' about Jewish influence in the media. So are they really that different to Mosley and his nasty gang of Nazi sympathizers?

I should point out that I'm 25, absolutely loathe squalid "modern Britain" and am also disillusioned with the Tories.

hear hear.

.....so he's written a book about jewish influence in the media,does that apply to al-jazeera??

the media are brainwashing people,no doubt about it...just look at property *********(fill in as applicable)

...it's more a matter of which side of the fence the government sits on(depending on country)

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