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China seems to be rumbling at the nubmer of students at Western unis.

Im not sure what they can do about that in less than 50 years though.

Maybe set up an English speaking one?

Indeed they are trying to cut down the number of 2+2 courses they fund for example. But the rise of the middle classes out there means more rich kids want to live in the west - so Change of emphasis

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Indeed they are trying to cut down the number of 2+2 courses they fund for example. But the rise of the middle classes out there means more rich kids want to live in the west - so Change of emphasis

I would guess the Red Bricks are getting a lot of visits from the Chinese at the mo.

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I am told that Swansea Uni is having a panic over losing EU money. Have heard sums of 30 to 40 percent of budget coming from EU bodies - but that seems excessively high.

Didn't half the money for the shiny new campus come from EU funds?

Having driven past I hope for their sake sea levels don't rise.

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I can't speak for Leicester I don't know anyone their well enough to ask. As a university it seems to have gone downhill somewhat.

Overseas Students- we can't handle the demand, around 60% China the rest subcontinent then Malaysia/ Indonesia.

The students want to study at a well ranked English speaking university in a western country.

Imperial college tried to put them off by raising fees- their applications went up!

I honestly can't see it being a problem in the brave new world. Indeed as it is an export it will get more priority.

The only complaint we get from overseas students is that they want to meet more "English people" whilst on the course. I'll leave it to your imagination what they mean by that.. come to the Uk to live.

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Surely the UK must have got back less EU money than it put in overall?

Of course. But Wales got back far more than was put in from Wales, and the money was all under the control of the local welsh politicians who seem to have a penchant for spending money both in Swansea and on universities. A combination that meant Swansea University did particularly well out of it.

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Here's a link detailing the £121 Million awarded to Swansea (as lead sponsor) from the 2007 to 2013 EU structural funds programme.

http://gov.wales/funding/eu-funds/previous/searchprojects/?view=Search+results〈=en

In reality they won't have had all of this money, as most of the projects were partnerships with a lead partner bidding in on behalf of a consortium, but quid pro quo they will also have been partners on many other projects run by other Welsh Universities. You can see all of the Welsh 2007-13 structural funds projects in this searchable database http://gov.wales/funding/eu-funds/previous/searchprojects/?lang=en

A search for all projects with a lead sponsor's name that includes the term "University" shows £256.6 Million of project activity

A search for all projects with a lead sponsor's name that includes the term "Swansea" shows £191.7 Million of project activity. Obviously much of this overlaps, and I haven't got time to unpick it, but you get the picture.

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BBC: UK university applications fall by 4%, Ucas figures show

The number of people applying for UK university places has fallen by more than 25,000 (4%) on last year, data from the admissions service Ucas shows.

The figures show a sharp decline in those applying to study nursing courses - down 19% - and a continued fall in the number of mature students, notably in England and Northern Ireland.

The number of EU students planning to study in the UK has fallen by 5%.

It is the first decline since fees were last increased in England, in 2012.

Fees in England will increase to £9,250 this year, and student loans are subject to an increase in interest rates - rising from 4.6% to 6.1% from this autumn.

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5 minutes ago, interestrateripoff said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40575441

University of Sheffield to spunk £45m on a new building!!! Not sure what it's made of for that price!

Northampton "Uni"...building a shiny new campus on the banks of the river nene, with state money....thought at the time they were having a laugh.

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On 05/07/2016 at 6:16 PM, rahhhh said:

We caught the spy as when I asked if she went to one of the top universities. Oxford, Cambridge or Hull she didn't notice that only two of those are top.

Well of course everyone knows Oxford is a dump

How could anyone rate those two pits against Hull, diff league!

You know just the other day I thought if Bicester opened a Uni it would be so successful, they bus load Chinese in from London to buy s*** from Bicester Village just because they think its less fake than the fakes in China.  Add to that the prospect of Bicester Uni, icing on the cake.

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1 hour ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

" student loans are subject to an increase in interest rates - rising from 4.6% to 6.1% from this autumn."

 

That, my dear friends, is a national disgrace.

+1

Osbornes plan to replace nursing/midwifery student bursaries with fees has spectacularly backfired. He thought it would lift the cap on numbers so more could train. According to news today, big slump in numbers who applied.

Lets see what else oxford attending out of touch elites, coke snorting morons can fu** up

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On 05/07/2016 at 6:06 PM, GreenDevil said:

With the pound down getting onto 15%, that makes fees for students going down for overseas students, perhaps its just Leicester, after all if i was looking for a uni course, i think Leicester would be at the bottom of my list about level along with hull...

After Brexit EU students will have to pay full overseas fees. Some uni town gonna be hit really hard with numbers  :=)

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On 05/07/2016 at 7:29 PM, debtlessmanc said:

No - that was a particular call and was open to many other countries including the uk- I actually ended up in Washington DC sitting on a panel to rank the grant proposals. I've been on Canadian panels too which are closely modelled on the UK system. This appears to be something new and particularl to the uk. But it is not totally clear yet. My young colleague has been in touch with his collaborator at MIT already to try and find out what's up.

Once again SocSci/Hums get left out. And before s/o bangs on again about poetry grads pushing coffee, oh hush. A world of engineers will be really boring ... who'll write the porn narratives?

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6 hours ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

" student loans are subject to an increase in interest rates - rising from 4.6% to 6.1% from this autumn."

 

That, my dear friends, is a national disgrace.

Totally agree, it makes a university education a big gamble for typical youths who don´t have rich parents.

So, regressing back to a society where only the rich go to university and property is too expensive for regular people - who are forced to rent from the rich who own all the assets.

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11 minutes ago, Sour Mash said:

Totally agree, it makes a university education a big gamble for typical youths who don´t have rich parents.

So, regressing back to a society where only the rich go to university and property is too expensive for regular people - who are forced to rent from the rich who own all the assets.

I dont think theire plan is smaller unis just full of rich people.  I think it's uni's full of idiots paying as much as they can squeeze out of them to be there.

 

I can see fees being cut if numbers drop.

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6 hours ago, interestrateripoff said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40575441

University of Sheffield to spunk £45m on a new building!!! Not sure what it's made of for that price!

They have already spent a fortune on their campus with fancy new building. i was over there a few months ago (PhD external) the staff i spoke to were bracing themselves for the announcement of redundancies - lots of that about at the moment in the sector.

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2 minutes ago, Democorruptcy said:

What rate would you offer?

I'd scrap uni's as a holding center for the unemployed and entrance vehicles for foreigners then, cutting down numbers massively

I'd split them up along the lines of technical/practical, theoretical/research.

The peolpe who want to learn/investigate real practical skills ( engineering, medice etc ) wold go to 1) then Maybe onto 2 ) and any real boffin types straight into 2 ) .

Pretty much back to the poly/uni model we had before.

Would benefit the country no end.

Using young men/women as a cash cow for some public school boys to live off is not the way to run a progressive society.

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18 minutes ago, TheCountOfNowhere said:

I'd scrap uni's as a holding center for the unemployed and entrance vehicles for foreigners then, cutting down numbers massively

I'd split them up along the lines of technical/practical, theoretical/research.

The peolpe who want to learn/investigate real practical skills ( engineering, medice etc ) wold go to 1) then Maybe onto 2 ) and any real boffin types straight into 2 ) .

Pretty much back to the poly/uni model we had before.

Would benefit the country no end.

Using young men/women as a cash cow for some public school boys to live off is not the way to run a progressive society.

Sounds good.  I have known people who after getting a 2.1 in English got a job that they could have got at 16!

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6 hours ago, mathschoc said:

+1

Osbornes plan to replace nursing/midwifery student bursaries with fees has spectacularly backfired. He thought it would lift the cap on numbers so more could train. According to news today, big slump in numbers who applied.

Lets see what else oxford attending out of touch elites, coke snorting morons can fu** up

Though applications are still far in excess of available places for nursing.

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