Brexit - Were You A Shy Brexiteer?

[Steppenpig]

As of today, the thread/poll here seems to show 22 regretful leavers and 262 satisfied leavers. I've only skimmed it, but there don't seem to be many (nil?) actually outing themselves in the thread. So it is either a previously undiscovered phenomenen of shy regretful leavers, or maybe disappointed remainers reaffirming their vote. Coincidentally, the percentages are similat to the earlier polls on the straight leave/remain question...

Also, we seem to have garnered double the votes in total than the pre election polls - which is slightly odd. So it seems possible that we are seeing the phenomenen of shy leavers (who were relatively quiet, or undecided, before the actual vote) now wishing to assert their position.

[workingpoor]

I campaigned hard for Brexit for months on social media, i'am a proud Brexiteer,

and the way elements of the Remain side have carried on after losing the Referendum i'am savouring every miniute of this great victory.

I expected Article 50 to be invoked by now but seeing as we have some stalling i'am really enjoying the economic fallout from it.

When i saw a Student at Glastonbury tell the media that his Grandmother voted Brexit & would be dead soon and he would be left to deal with the consequences,

i just knew we did the right thing.

Edited June 29, 2016 by workingpoor

[Digsby]

I was always a regretful leaver, even as I crossed the ballot paper, regretful that it had come to this. But I know you are asking if I regret my vote, and I do not so I am a steadfast leaver.

Having said that, I harbour a small, diminishing hope that the EU would view this as a protest vote and recognise that 17 million of it's citizens are not happy with the current direction and need some attention, need to be listened to.

But the things that have been said since, the backlash we've had from both our own brethren who would prefer to remain, and the EU officials, have just led me to conclude it was the right choice.

I'm proud to have voted out, because the world's eyes are on us now, we have begged the important question: is the UK and more importantly the EU pro-democracy or anti-democracy?

Or does it just pretend to be so to make the people think they are more than just slaves to a system they have zero control or influence over?

On vera, as a certain respected poster might say.

[BIGpantz]

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

I am just dissapointed they are squabbling like schoolkids just envoke article 50 and get on with it. I did a lot of reading and nothing would have made me change my mind.

Reasons

1: Cost of the EU in 2015 we paid £13,000,000,000 EU spending on the UK £4.5,000,000,000 Net contribution £8.5,000,000,000

2: European Army

3:Joining Euro Currency

4: TTIP

5:Soveriegnty

6:Immigration.Needs stopping until every Brit is in work.

7:Furious that my hard earned was being wasted on fatcats that werent answerable to anyone.

[TheCountOfNowhere]

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

I am just dissapointed they are squabbling like schoolkids just envoke article 50 and get on with it. I did a lot of reading and nothing would have made me change my mind.

Reasons

1: Cost of the EU in 2015 we paid £13,000,000,000 EU spending on the UK £4.5,000,000,000 Net contribution £8.5,000,000,000

2: European Army

3:Joining Euro Currency

4: TTIP

5:Soveriegnty

6:Immigration.Needs stopping until every Brit is in work.

7:Furious that my hard earned was being wasted on fatcats that werent answerable to anyone.

You couldn't orchestrate not accepting the vote better if you tried.

Does anyone actual believe the ccccs who have robbed us blind for centuries will do the decent thing?

C'mon,get real.

[Royw6]

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

I am just dissapointed they are squabbling like schoolkids just envoke article 50 and get on with it. I did a lot of reading and nothing would have made me change my mind.

Reasons

1: Cost of the EU in 2015 we paid £13,000,000,000 EU spending on the UK £4.5,000,000,000 Net contribution £8.5,000,000,000

2: European Army

3:Joining Euro Currency

4: TTIP

5:Soveriegnty

6:Immigration.Needs stopping until every Brit is in work.

7:Furious that my hard earned was being wasted on fatcats that werent answerable to anyone.

I think it's because most economists and rational people realise that it would be a stupid thing to do. It's one thing having a protest vote without carrying out a daft action that will destroy the opportunities of a countries population. You are right, the U.K. Will never leave the eu no matter what you voted for. But the 7 points you list are why people like you will be ignored, it's just mad up. One last thing, please get over the immigration, please get over it.

As for your Brits in work ******, give me a good doctor I don't care where from, as long as he or she is the best they can be.

[richc]

I think it's because most economists and rational people realise that it would be a stupid thing to do. It's one thing having a protest vote without carrying out a daft action that will destroy the opportunities of a countries population. You are right, the U.K. Will never leave the eu no matter what you voted for. But the 7 points you list are why people like you will be ignored, it's just mad up. One last thing, please get over the immigration, please get over it.

As for your Brits in work ******, give me a good doctor I don't care where from, as long as he or she is the best they can be.

As a trained economist (specialising in labour economics, from the highest ranked programme in the world), I have to say that the smugness emanating from the Remain camp (and the child-like response since the vote) just reinforces that Britain made the correct decision. The FTSE has already recovered all losses following Brexit and the 10% devaluation of the pound simply provided what the BoE has been trying to do for the past 10 years. Free movement of labour within the EU was never meant to be a substitute for a lack of investment and structural reform in the less wealthy counties of Europe, but that is precisely what was happening, with the working class of Britain suffering the consequences and urban professionals reaping the rewards. Remaining in the EU made no economically rational sense for the majority of people in Britain, even if a smaller minority really, really wanted to stay in.

[Riedquat]

I was always a regretful leaver, even as I crossed the ballot paper, regretful that it had come to this. But I know you are asking if I regret my vote, and I do not so I am a steadfast leaver.

Only quoting this part for brevity but I'm in complete agreement with the entire post.

I'm regretful because I'm really sad that it's had to come to this. I can't find any reason to celebrate, any more than I could if I had to turn the life support off on a terminally ill friend. But unfortunately it had to be done, and the only real arguments against it were short-term and money-trumps-everything based, which would only delay the inevitable in any case. Remain just seemed blind or in denial to the problems, they weren't just going to vanish, and will just build the longer the EU refuses to reform. I have so far seen no answer to this, only "but it was too high a price" or "but look what it's done to the economy", which misses the point when the current course of the EU made this (or something similar elsewhere) inevitable, and with more unpleasant results the longer it had been allowed to continue.

So I've voted steadfast on this thread even though I put the cross against Leave with a heavy heart.

[Riedquat]

I think it's because most economists and rational people realise that it would be a stupid thing to do. It's one thing having a protest vote without carrying out a daft action that will destroy the opportunities of a countries population. You are right, the U.K. Will never leave the eu no matter what you voted for. But the 7 points you list are why people like you will be ignored, it's just mad up. One last thing, please get over the immigration, please get over it.

As for your Brits in work ******, give me a good doctor I don't care where from, as long as he or she is the best they can be.

What's rational about supressing problems instead of solving them and letter the pressure buld and bulld? Comments like "please get over the immigration" are precisely the sort of attitude that does just that. Not look at an issue, let alone consider how to deal with it, but to try to suppress it and dismiss people who are concerned by it. That won't make it go away, it'll increase the resentment and increase the liklihood of it eventually exploding.

Better hope some other country you haven't parasited the doctor from doesn't need them.

[Inoperational Bumblebee]

I've been openly Leave all the way with people who are prepared to discuss it rationally, however in work I am in a tiny minority so I've not said which way I voted that often but have been making the arguments and playing Devil's Advocate to their poor logic. Facebook has been so bad my use has dropped off drastically as there's so much groupthink there.

It's been difficult not to get sucked into the throng amongst my peers but I voted Leave as I feel it is best for the medium to long-term good of the country and my family.

[Riedquat]

I've been openly Leave all the way with people who are prepared to discuss it rationally, however in work I am in a tiny minority

My place has probably been fairly even, and I've not kept quiet about it. No-one seems to have got worked up about what I've said (and since they do about plenty of other stuff I say that probably means something). What surprised me was the person who sounded the most pro-Remain at one point, and said he voted Remain, was actually pleased when he saw the result. Said he voted Remain for economic reasons but his heart had said Leave. I don't think that's representative of most though.