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The only sovereignty that counts is personal sovereignty. Power retained by the individual. Brexit does nothing to return power to the people. Conversely, it will be used by Boris et al to legitimise further disempowerment of individuals and families. No Brexiters are proposing reducing tax burdens or rolling back legislation.

This almost sounds like it could lead to a right to bare arms speech.

Personally I'd have no issue concealed carrying a Glock 19 if they were legal.

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4) Not realising that France will now just refugees over the border, thus recreating Sangatte in Tunbridge Wells (I nearly wrote Dover, but Tunbridge Wells would be more Ironic).

Given that Tunbridge Wells voted to Remain, I don't see the irony.

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Yes, this is also my theory.

If you noticed this morning, certain leave figures (including one from Berkshire) were suggesting it might take a year before we invoke Article 50, given that it then takes 2 years to leave and guessing we might slow things due to ongoing negotiations, I reckon the public may have elected a Labour Majority Government by this time time Brexit is allowed to occur.

Also, I am taking the 2nd referendum thing very seriously. MPs will go for it given half a chance, and a large number of voters seem to be suffering buyers remorse, including people:

1) Not thinking their Brexit vote would count

2) Not realising the principality in which they reside would lose EU cash bungs and now expecting England to make it up.

3) Not realising that it would stop white Europeans coming to the UK, but do nothing in relation to the subcontinent or Africa migrants, which is not in line with their own racist agenda.

4) Not realising that France will now just refugees over the border, thus recreating Sangatte in Tunbridge Wells (I nearly wrote Dover, but Tunbridge Wells would be more Ironic).

5) Not realising their 13 year old might not get a summer job in France when they are 17

Someones been watching too much State Television today.

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Old people are just young people with life experience... think the young of today will have the same views in 20 years time?

Old people have learnt from experience 40 years ago when they got hoodwinked and lied to the first time round, they are thinking about the future when they voted - just not theirs.

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That would be a toughy. The EU would also need to obliterate all federal ambitions and withdraw its tentacles to become palatable; if it had already done that I probably would've voted Remain, hell, it probably wouldn't have come down to a referendum. To be honest doing all of that is probably its only chance of survival anyway, so it would be a win.

On the other hand I can't stand the idea of not standing by the result and the consequences.

If there was another referendum it would quite possibly after scotland has voted for independence which would give a big leave majority to overcome.

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There is a clearly defined exit protocol so unless he is advocating throwing everything out the window (not exactly a great sign of EU trustworthiness) to get the UK out post-haste, we are almost certainly looking at over 2 years before the UK is out. And IMO almost certainly longer.

This is just the EU trying to talk tough, playing the game. They will concede like they did with Greece in the end

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The only sovereignty that counts is personal sovereignty. Power retained by the individual. Brexit does nothing to return power to the people. Conversely, it will be used by Boris et al to legitimise further disempowerment of individuals and families. No Brexiters are proposing reducing tax burdens or rolling back legislation.

Really Boris the man who voted against Tory cuts and actively created a London living wage?

I agree with Errol there is something noble about sovereignty, in fact millions died for it hence your right to post on this forum.

Ultimately individuals did exercise their sovereignty, it brought down a prime minister and will the EU fascist state.

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What will happen next?

The EU and the USA (who wanted the UK to remain) will launch a coordinated economic attack on Britain.

This attack has already begun.

Nonsense!

ONS stats showed in the past three months, EU member states exported £23.8 billion pounds more to the UK than the UK exported to EU states.

Many top major UK companies are owned by EU and US investors.

You are therefore suggesting the sclerotic EU economy, already mired in unemployment, disastrous growth and forward prospects, will not just shoot itself in the foot, but blow both feet off and its legs as well, as a spiteful reaction?

Even blobby fools such as Hollande aint that stupid!

In any case, such hostile actions would immediately trip hostile reactions.

Since absolutely nothing has changed since the results of the referendum were published, and nothing could until and unless the UK's elected government manage to gain a majority vote on a formal exit (which then still must receive approval from the Lords; all of which takes time), then any formal notice of withdrawal must be delivered to the EU Council of Europe and voted through its parliament etc; yet the sainted markets have already started massive speculation and value destruction on a knee jerk basis.

Which demonstrates precisely why the core problem with Britain is politicians love of and myopic comprehension and continued defence of their beloved "City".

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If there was another referendum it would quite possibly after scotland has voted for independence which would give a big leave majority to overcome.

imagine if scots vote leave then a UK minus the scots votes remain. Then the scots have to re-apply for EU membership and take all the full fat EU shit for it ???? Edited by GrizzlyDave
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Nicola Sturgeon has just been on Sky news stating she will be inviting all the EU consul generals to Edinburgh to "reassure them that their citizens/workers are still welcome in Scotland" ahead of another Scottish referendum.

What are the chances she's actually inviting them to discuss how best to stitch up the rest of the U.K. during the leave negotiations so they get an easy accession afterwards?

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Nicola Sturgeon has just been on Sky news stating she will be inviting all the EU consul generals to Edinburgh to "reassure them that their citizens/workers are still welcome in Scotland" ahead of another Scottish referendum.

What are the chances she's actually inviting them to discuss how best to stitch up the rest of the U.K. during the leave negotiations so they get an easy accession afterwards?

It's almost like she's on a death wish for her political career
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Nicola Sturgeon has just been on Sky news stating she will be inviting all the EU consul generals to Edinburgh to "reassure them that their citizens/workers are still welcome in Scotland" ahead of another Scottish referendum.

What are the chances she's actually inviting them to discuss how best to stitch up the rest of the U.K. during the leave negotiations so they get an easy accession afterwards?

Odd that, because their citizens and workers are still welcome, and always will be in the rest of the UK too.

Freeloaders need not apply.

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So, do we believe Cameron when he said there were no contingency plans being made in the case of Brexit by the Civil Service, Treasury etc?

If true then with a zombie government until October, a coup against Corbyn, a possible election in the Autumn, a Scottish referendum almost certain, and a Northern Irish one possible, our government isn't going to be in any fit state to do anything for a while.

Interesting times.

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