DarkHorseWaits-NoMore Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Don't you luv the smell of straw men in the morning.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 There is an awful lot of negativity on here when, in reality, we don't know if it will work out better or worse. Of course its not as much fun when people come on saying "You know what, its really all up in the air". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldbug9999 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 The UK is going to become one the worlds biggest trade hubs while the EU flounders and dies. We are getting out (of the EU) in the nick of time before it all goes to shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 The UK is going to become one the worlds biggest trade hubs while the EU flounders and dies. We are getting out (of the EU) in the nick of time before it all goes to shit. Indeed, the CEBR in a release today, agrees with you (well to the extent that the UK will do well): https://cebr.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/WELT-2021-final-29.12.pdf (page 230) "We expect the trend rate of growth for the UK to be 4.0% annually from 2021-25 and 1.8% annually from 2026-30 and 1.8% annually from 2031-35. The UK is forecast to be overtaken by India in 2024 but otherwise holds its place in the league table to 2025. By 2035, UK GDP in dollars is forecast to be 23% more than that of France, its long-standing rival and neighbour". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thecrashingisles Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 The UK is going to become one the worlds biggest trade hubs while the EU flounders and dies. We are getting out (of the EU) in the nick of time before it all goes to shit. Utterly delusional. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erat_forte Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 The UK is going to become one the worlds biggest trade hubs while the EU flounders and dies. We are getting out (of the EU) in the nick of time before it all goes to shit. Well that is good to know. Do you mean the UK, or do you mean Britain? Or do you mean England? I'm a little unsure how a customs border between two constituent parts of the UK help the UK to become a trade hub. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thecrashingisles Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Indeed, the CEBR in a release today, agrees with you (well to the extent that the UK will do well): https://cebr.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/WELT-2021-final-29.12.pdf (page 230) "We expect the trend rate of growth for the UK to be 4.0% annually from 2021-25 and 1.8% annually from 2026-30 and 1.8% annually from 2031-35. The UK is forecast to be overtaken by India in 2024 but otherwise holds its place in the league table to 2025. By 2035, UK GDP in dollars is forecast to be 23% more than that of France, its long-standing rival and neighbour". They're also predicting the UK population will grow by 5 million. Is that what people voted for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thecrashingisles Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Well that is good to know. Do you mean the UK, or do you mean Britain? Or do you mean England? I'm a little unsure how a customs border between two constituent parts of the UK help the UK to become a trade hub. According to Michael Gove it's like training for a marathon. The tougher you make it to trade, the more 'match fit' you will become for the big race. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 They're also predicting the UK population will grow by 5 million. Is that what people voted for? I think they voted for having some sort of say in what the 5m increase would comprise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thecrashingisles Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 I think they voted for having some sort of say in what the 5m increase would comprise. And do they have a say? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 And do they have a say? What do you think, after Brexit, more of a say or less of a say who comes and stays in the country (without wishing to sound in any way racist and just wondering what you actually think - although already knowing it will be the most pessimistic outcome possible). 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huggy Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 They're also predicting the UK population will grow by 5 million. Is that what people voted for? Lol. We join the EU, we get 5m more immigrants. We leave the EU, we're forecasted to get 5m more immigrants. Conclusion. Presumably leaving the EU causes high immigration, and lol at the leavers and them causing high immigration. This thread is genuinely a batshit nutcase of a place to be, a 'double concentrated' fruit juice version of the UK. I quite enjoy it sometimes and will be sad to see it go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Hun Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 There is an awful lot of negativity on here when, in reality, we don't know if it will work out better or worse. Of course its not as much fun when people come on saying "You know what, its really all up in the air". This thread is full of people coming up with that ******** and its been discussed to death. Yes, it is ********. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Hun Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 A good summary of 5,635 pages. Thats Brexit for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 This thread is full of people coming up with that ******** and its been discussed to death. Yes, it is ********. Hmmm, do you agree with me or not then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Hun Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Hmmm, do you agree with me or not then? Lets just say, removing the ability to sell your goods in your main market is not going to improve your economic prospects, especially as we will be blocked from replacing that market with any other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msi Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 China and EU 'on verge' of major investment deal No doubt the UK will be excluded from this... Never mind, we can send BoJo and Prince Phillip to see what they can do before they become 's*tty eyed' </sarcasm> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wighty Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 They're also predicting the UK population will grow by 5 million. Is that what people voted for? UK being so successful out of EU, everyone will be clamoring to come here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 PWOJEKT FEEEERRRR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robmatic Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 And do they have a say? People will get a choice between two parties who will pretend to be tough on immigration while not making any significant policy changes to reduce it - just as we have experienced over the last 30 years with non-EU immigration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thehowler Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) ERG are onboard. Labour voting with them. Strange times. Edited December 29, 2020 by thehowler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 ERG are onboard. Labour voting with them. Strange times. In at least one respect it's a pity, the high drama from the last attempt to get a deal through was riveting (especially as the Speaker was so partisan). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Lets just say, removing the ability to sell your goods in your main market is not going to improve your economic prospects, especially as we will be blocked from replacing that market with any other. Oops - didn't post that correctly - referring to there being a very large majority in the House in favour of the deal (or at least voting for it): In at least one respect it's a pity, the high drama from the last attempt to get a deal through was riveting (especially as the Speaker was so partisan). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Lets just say, removing the ability to sell your goods in your main market is not going to improve your economic prospects, especially as we will be blocked from replacing that market with any other. Yes that would have been bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark hughes Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Yes that would have been bad. From the BBC website 8 minutes ago: "The UK rolled over dozens of trade deals with countries around the world since deciding to leave the EU's trading arrangements. The vast majority of the 62 trade deals the UK has signed over the past two years have retained the same terms as before Brexit". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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