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1409 pages....you guys should have your own forum !!!

Oh OK. Shame that really, but hey it looks like @IMHAL helped us both out. Nice repost though, thanks ! Any thoughts ?  

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That is your list and definitely not mine dugs. Whilst I think the blame game is now becoming pointless I will give you my list if you like. 
I agree with U.K. politicians (yes, including Remain voters) and the liberal elites being at least partially culpable by manufacturing such an unfair society and becoming so out of touch with voters. And, if no deal occurs I will be apportioning a minority of the blame onto the EUrocrats too. 

Your blame someone else list is of the highest standard.

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The only time this is really over is when legally we have ended any transition period (or whatever other name they can come up for it such as buffer period, implementation zone, blah blah).

Until then, it will be yet more painful propaganda and uncertainty.

Indeed, that's why it's better to lance this boil now. No deal is Brexshit and is implemenitng the will of the people. What's all this dithering about. Let's see what's what. Let's see these sunny uplands we were all promised. The unicorns are waiting.

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...U.K. popular views of the EU at the end of this are better than they have ever been during membership.  Many in Britain will see Brexit as a success, despite the huge economic damage, loss of individual rights, and loss of our global diplomatic influence.

An admirable vision, though sadly an oxymoron.

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It would not have mattered. It would have been overturned in the next round anyway for the reasons I have already stated. If you think our right wing press has been bad already it would have been nothing compared to their response to a CU vote. 

Here is a snippet from a European immigrant which I think sums up the situation almost perfectly (even if some historical facts might be debated) :

 

As sad as it is I have unfortunately come around to agree with this latter view. If you look at how long it went on for, that poster is correct, brexit was pretty much inevitable. Very sad but now we have a chance to discover what we are. I think the end will be the youth who knew us as part of the EU will start to vote as they get older and we'll spend time reintgrating, eventually joining freedom of movement again. But we have to go through the wilderness first or nothing would ever be settled. That is why I want no deal.

Where was that snippet you posted from please? 

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Macron’s best bet is the real nuclear option

A French-led energy embargo is particularly mad given France stands to benefit massively from upgrades to the UK’s nuclear plants

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/12/13/macrons-best-bet-real-nuclear-option/

 

It would be a terrible shame a power outage in the UK were to knock out the internet from the U.S.A to the continent.

Those relays can trip out you know, very sensitive.😉

 

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Isn't there some kind of financial bill if uk doesn't leave on 31 Dec?  

Well the financial bill for business will be pretty high, as in do we stick or twist, send goods through the ports or not. I mean it could be a real risk, if goods make it to the black hole that is Dover, perhaps never to be seen again. 

I ain't taking that risk. 

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It appears the large Dutch fishing boats could upset the French, 200 Tons a day. It takes 4 small French boats a year to do the same.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/12/france-gears-war-european-neighbours-locked-british-waters-no/

France gears up for war with European neighbours if locked out of British waters by no deal Brexit

Dutch and German trawlers are thought to be eyeing up French waters already

 

“They practice what I would call a scorched-earth policy: when there is nothing left, they look elsewhere. We saw it with electric fishing. That cannot sit with our fishermen who fish locally and don’t look elsewhere when nothing’s left,” he warned.

“At the moment they fish all over the Channel, in French and English waters,” he said. But with the advent of Brexit, and no fishing deal in sight, he fears “a build-up of these giants on the French side because the English won’t let them in anymore.”

“They have trawlers that are 30 to 40 metres long, much bigger than French boats so it creates rivalry. It will be explosive. It’ll end in a punch-up between Europeans and that’s unbearable. A political choice has to be made and it’s urgent,” he said.

The warnings came as fishermen protested in Fécamp this week with NGOs against the presence of eight massive, mainly Dutch-owned trawlers currently fishing 26 miles off the coast. According to Pleine Mer and Sea Shepherd, two NGOs representing small-scale local fishing, the boats can catch 200 tons of fish in one night - the annual catch of four small French fishing boats.

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Well the financial bill for business will be pretty high, as in do we stick or twist, send goods through the ports or not. I mean it could be a real risk, if goods make it to the black hole that is Dover, perhaps never to be seen again. 

I ain't taking that risk. 

Yes, it's going to be much disruption. 

I wouldn't be driving a lorry over for a couple of months myself, that's for sure. 

But since everyone will be thinking that, it may not be as bad as we expect initially?

 

 

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Yes, it's going to be much disruption. 

I wouldn't be driving a lorry over for a couple of months myself, that's for sure. 

But since everyone will be thinking that, it may not be as bad as we expect initially?

 

 

Almost certainly not. The best way to avoid losing money from any business is not to open one up in the first place. 

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Macron’s best bet is the real nuclear option

A French-led energy embargo is particularly mad given France stands to benefit massively from upgrades to the UK’s nuclear plants

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/12/13/macrons-best-bet-real-nuclear-option/

 

It would be a terrible shame a power outage in the UK were to knock out the internet from the U.S.A to the continent.

Those relays can trip out you know, very sensitive.😉

 

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Your map is behind the times, from 2015, pre-Brexit-historic.

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